rundown of Michigan's riser
OT: Ron Artest Pulls A Cheap Shot, Gets Ejected
come on, at least leave a reason why you disagree...
additionally, why are you so scared about a difference of opinion?
I'd leave a reason, but I'm still trying to figure out your original point.
I think jeff09 makes a very good point...maybe read it again?
If he would have hit his chest with the left hand it would have been different. That would have been more if an accident. But he clearly wound up for his swing... I personally think its absolutely disgraceful to the game, especially since Harden was putting his hands up to let MWP know he was there and so he wouldn't run into him. I hope Stern suspends him indefinitely (maybe kicked out of the league due to his past history).
I don't know who's hair is better, John Stamos circa Full House or Denard
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Were you replying to me? Because I don't remember opposing your statements.
I was adding to the conversation and it seems that from your other posts you were trying to defend the elbow because they may have a history.
Maybe we all should take a step away from our computers, phones, etc and let cooler heads prevail...
I don't know who's hair is better, John Stamos circa Full House or Denard
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Woah... I'm not mad. I just didn't know how your reply applied to anything I said.
"it seems that from your other posts you were trying to defend the elbow because they may have a history."
Thank you for your clarification, but no, I am definitely not trying to defend the elbow. What I have been saying is that people can not go around doing annoying crap like get in the way of others and not expect any retribution. Am I saying Harden was doing this? No. Am I saying Harden got what he deserved if he was doing this? No. I'm just saying he shouldn't be surprised that Artest reacted if he indeed was doing it on purpose.
"Watch out we got a bad ass over here!"
I didn't catch this the first time, how exactly did you get butt hurt over what I said?
Did Ronny Artest change his name to Oscar?
What's up with the Metta World Peace thing... is that his real legal name now or just some stupid ploy? At least everyone knew not to take Chad "Ochocinco" seriously when he did it... is Ronny just copying him? Seriously, at least choose a cooler name... a la: Hehateme of the XFL. I'd go with Zeus... always thought that was an awesome name.
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
Expect to get bumped.
If you bump someone, DON'T expect a roundhouse elbow to your head. (Unless you're playing Ron Artest. His momma called him Ron, I'm gonna call him Ron.)
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
FINALLY, a post I can agreed with. Thank you. You almost made my bad decision to post worthwhile.
You are probably right, I thought I was posting in a place that was pretty open minded and wouldn't be offended because someone had a difference of opinion I was hoping for a interesting discussion, but got much much less, something I would expect at other less intelligent places that some, if not all, here believe they are above...
and this should be at LEAST a 20 game suspension, without pay. Besides, it's not like this is his first incident (not even close). The NBA needs to send his dumbass a message that this crap won't be tolerated. He's a mental case.
Chuck Norris wears Brady Hoke pajamas.
I liked how he tried to explain it away, as if replay doesn't exist.
Raise your hand if you wanted to see Serge Ibaka pop him one in the jaw...
Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow
2. Artest would mash Ibaka.
3. Why aren't we calling hockey players thugs when they hurt eachother....intentionally?
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Hockey and basketball are two completely different sports, apples to oranges in terms of physicality and basically everything else, don't even try to make that comparison.
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
However, there is no reason why it's acceptable that hockey players can fight and basketball players can't even talk trash to one another. MWP is a thug because he plays basketball and has a history of.....being aggresive? How is he different than Laimbeer or Rodman. Mchale or Bird? He isn't... he just fits the stereotype of what some consider a thug and thus he is labeled as such. It's corny. Basketball used to be every bit as physical as hockey...until Stern ruined the sport.
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Basketball was never "every bit as physical as hockey" and if you believe that than you are a fool. I can't believe I actually have to make that point.
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
The entire 1990s.....basketball has a history of being very physical. The physicality of hockey has always been sensationalized and overblown....it will never be football. Point is if MWP was wearing a Wings jersey he's a hero. Since he wears a Lakers jersey he's a thug. That's fact and that's crap.
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You are.......
..... wrong. "basketball has a history of being very physical" yes... that's why there are fouls for grazing another player's hand while he's shooting or reaching over his head to grab a rebound... soooooo physical and tough, hell you might even have to flop on a charge once in a while. Seriously, are you thinking of that basketball sport that used trampolines?
In reality I think the overall brutality of major American sports is as follows: Football > Hockey (close behind due to sheer number of games, though less violent hits) > Lacrosse > Soccer? (at least you can slide tackle and knock players over, though Europeans take the diving to an embarassing level) > Basketball > Baseball.
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
have the word "thug" in them at least once. Certainly the sentiment, if not that exact word. There were also multiple threads about Hagelin and how his hit was suspension worthy (though with less than full support), but everyone was using nicer words because he wore a winged helmet for four years.
http://mgoblog.com/content/conboy-and-tropp-should-be-gone-period
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-shanahan-gives-torres-25-game-suspension
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-shea-weber-fined-2500-his-head-slam-zette...
http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/ot-apparent-secret-agreement-between-orca-ba...
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It's actually impressive how consistently-hateable the Lakers are
I don't know who Ron Artest is, but Metta World Peace also clocked James Harden.
'Cause I Bleed Blue...
Watch that again, and look at the area at the base of his head. He seriously could have killed him. That was a ridiculous thing to do. There is no justifying that.
Amazing how thin the line is here between "gritty player" and "worthless thug who should be arrested and then exterminated"
No, intent to injure and incapacitate isn't a very thin line. Think of it this way: if it's so violently horrible it's thread worthy, probably a bad idea.
Nice to know you can read his mind. So since there were threads about Novak's elbow, does that mean he is a worthless thug?
Given his track record it's a fair assumption. And even if not he doesn't deserve the benefit do the doubt.
Also, really you're comparing Novak to Artest? Yeah they have the same reputations, previous records of suspensions and are both totally ago the same stage of their careers and in the same leagues. And I like that you attempted to read my mind and what should happen to him, yet complained about my mind reading. You really tore it up with that post.
There is no "thin line" between gritty and dirty. They are two completely distinct characteristics. Gritty is hustling, being a tough player, playing as hard as possible WITHIN the rules of the game, and generally being a hard working individual. The sad display Ronald put on is none of those things. Honestly, anything less than a ban for the rest of the season is too little for this loser, EVERY YEAR he is at least part of the dirtiest play of the year. Don't forget the Malice at the Palace. I'd be embarassed to root for a team who employs this thug.
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
Well I don't think there is a thin line either. But the fact remains that the gulf between the reactions to this elbow and Novak's elbow are way out of proportion to the difference between the incidents.
The malice at the palace was almost 8 yrs ago. What were the other 6 incidents he was involved in that were the dirtiest in their respective years?
Jan 3, 2003: "Ron Artest destroyed a monitor and $100,000 high-definition camera following a 98-96 loss to the New York Knicks in Madison Square Garden. The Indiana Pacers forward served a three-game suspension from the incident and was fined $35,000."
Jan 27, 2003: "He shoved Miami swingman Caron Butler(notes) into the audience, flashed an obscene gesture toward the crowd, showboated toward the Heat bench, and started a verbal exchange to Pat Riley and Keith Askins (assistant coach) during a regular-season game."
March 2007: Instead of assaulting players, this time it was his wife: "Artest pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor domestic violence charge following a dispute with his wife in March."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-8427703
May 5, 2011: "With 24.4 seconds left in the Mavericks' 93-81 win over the Lakers on Wednesday, Artest reached out with his right hand and grabbed Mavericks guard Jose Juan Barea by the face and basically clotheslined him. Artest was immediately ejected after picking up his second technical foul" http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6483153
Too tired to post the rest... I feel like I just googled "French military defeats", there are way too many to count.
Excuse me for saying "the dirtiest" as I'm sure there were a few incidents that were worse, but saying "at least his weren't the worst" is like saying "at least he committed the least gruesome murder of the bunch".
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
He didn't even see hardens face...but it was nasty nonetheless. The NBA is so soft now. 2 game suspension and call it a day.
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Grammar Nazi-ed due to the stupidity of the post.
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
Not saying he shouldn't be suspended, but didn't this happen in hockey like 15 times in the past 3 days?
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Once again, another person late to the party, please reread my first post, maybe then you will understand why your post is worthless.