OT: the Plague has returned in the Mountain West

Submitted by Hotel Putingrad on August 20th, 2019 at 11:33 PM

In the last throes of OT season, I feel like there should be more discussion of this story. It seems that prairie dogs across the Black Hills and Colorado have been afflicted with THE PLAGUE.

As you may know, plague can easily be transmitted between species by fleas. So maybe don't go hiking out west for awhile.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/20/us/phish-colorado-plague-prairie-dogs-trnd/index.html

Hemlock Philosopher

August 21st, 2019 at 9:20 AM ^

Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this

Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
Freaks

Here in this hopeless [redacted] hole we call LA
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any [redacted] time, any [redacted] day
Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay

CarrIsMyHomeboy

August 20th, 2019 at 11:44 PM ^

I think the prudent thing is to avoid the area and otherwise not worry. It's highly likely we've got this covered:

(1) Bubonic plague has had a measurable incidence in the U.S. for years -- something like 7-10 annual cases.

(2) There's not yet sufficient reason to think this prairie dog deal will change that

(3) Unlike the 1300s in Europe, antibiotics have since been discovered and industrialized. 

mb121wl

August 20th, 2019 at 11:55 PM ^

Yes, exactly.  I lived there for 15 years.  Prairie dogs have always carried Bubonic plague.  The problem comes when wind blows dust into the air, carrying prairie dog fecal material with it.  People should keep windows closed and cover their faces if out in dry, dusty areas.  The OP's concern warrants a new level of attention chiefly insofar as desertification occurs and Dust Bowl-like conditions return.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

August 21st, 2019 at 12:10 AM ^

The dry wind does up the stakes (both in contamination reach and because pneumonic is worse than bubonic).

But streptomycin, doxy, and ciprofloxacin will kill insufflated Yersinia just as well as Yersinia that accesses the body other ways. And the clinicians out there are so aware of this that the odds of missed diagnoses has to be significantly lower than if a person caught a sporadic case in, say, ... Ohio.

CoverZero

August 20th, 2019 at 11:53 PM ^

I've been living in LA for the past 17 years, mostly near the beach.  The homeless problem in all parts has steadily gotten worse since then.  Its really sad to drive through downtown these days and every free overpass is filled with tents.  Dare to step through downtown to maybe buy some jewerly at the district, or go to a restaurant down there and you will be stepping over tents on the curbs of main streets down there.  There are people holding signs at almost every street corner mid city.  The tents are spreading further west, much closer to the coast than ever. 

The fleas of the homeless's pets are carrying the plague through the city.  Its out of control and the politicians here have no idea how to control it and assist those who are without homes who want to be helped.  Some are completely happy living like that.  Its crazy.

B-Nut-GoBlue

August 21st, 2019 at 3:31 AM ^

The 3 phases of reading this post:

1) oh wow, you live out there and are experiencing this, sad...

2) man this is more of a movie/tv series narrative but man it's juicy, nicely done, you had me for a moment

3) ...shiiiiiiit he does live there and this is real again and bad news AND coincidentally (or not?) how movies have realistically portrayed the beginning of the end

BeatOSU52

August 21st, 2019 at 12:09 AM ^

Speaking of OT, has anyone been keeping up with Bachelor in Paradise ?  .  This has been a crazy season that started out with Blake’s shenanigans,  Jordan getting kicked off the show for fighting ,   Demi’s girlfriend “love triangle” , and now Caitlin getting into it with the mad Russian .  Really anxious to see what kind of trouble the twins both stir up when they get to Paradise . 

AnthonyThomas

August 21st, 2019 at 12:29 AM ^

The plague has never disappeared. Obviously this is a bigger flare up than usual, but it's pretty common among rodents.

Regardless, I knew there was a reason I had the urge to re-read The Stand this summer.

Unsalted

August 21st, 2019 at 1:15 AM ^

P-dogs are everywhere in east of the Rockies in Colorado, much to the joy of foxes and hawks. The fields where Phish fans were to camp are in the Rocky Mountain Arsenal Wildlife Refuse adjacent to Dick's Sporting Goods (where M Club Lacrosse won some titles).

Bummer for the Phish fans as hotels are not cheap in metro Denver. Maybe they can head up to Chief Hosa Campground where all the Dead Heads camped when the Grateful Dead played Red Rocks ... sigh great memories of my youth.

Edit: Rocky Mountain Arsenal National Wildlife Refuge

Dawggoblue

August 21st, 2019 at 2:28 AM ^

The Black Hills are in South Dakota, not Colorado.  Nothing about the plague has been on the news here that I have heard.