OT: Michigan State trustees ask for board chair’s “removal” amid bullying, ethics and self-dealing allegations
When it rains it pours in East Lansing. Since this published, another trustee and the faculty chair also want the board chair removed. And now Gov. Whitmer is involved. This is nuts and well worth the read:
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:43 PM ^
University sold its soul for a decade of relevance in college football. This is what happens when you attempt to punch above your weight class.
Now its irrelevance + complete humiliation and dysfunction for lil bro. Spartans Will!
Back to mid regional meh program (at best) as the B1G expands to bigger and better things and brands with new West Coast additions.
Universe correcting itself, Mean reversion, etc, etc
LOL, Sparty No!
I'm loving every minute of it. D'antigiorneghettio's Legacy.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^
More like reversion to the mean kampf.
October 23rd, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
So we were talking about rock bottom earlier, now I think sparty is actively searching for the earths core!
October 24th, 2023 at 10:59 AM ^
Wow! Spartan Swill, indeed.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:19 PM ^
Ubran Meyer is definitely looking to get himself involved in this situation...
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Sad fact is Urbz would bring a level of stability.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:21 PM ^
Going to need an industrial size washing machine to deal with this dirty laundry. I got a headache reading that.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:31 PM ^
It is a gift that keeps on giving. Reporting this morning that the chairwoman threw a party this past Friday for donors at the president’s on-campus house. But the president was not allowed to attend? The president lives there!
Vassar planned donor dinner at president’s house but didn’t include her
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:28 PM ^
Yet their game thread from Saturday was filled with, "why would recruits want to go to Michigan?" 😂
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^
She sounds like a real piece of work.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
A fish rots from the head.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:40 PM ^
Scott also criticizes Vassar for “victim-blaming and minimizing of trauma” when texting about Tracy with former trustee Pat O’Keefe last month.
Vassar placed a heart reaction on a text from O’Keefe explaining how he thought Tracy could best be discredited, according to a copy of the messages obtained by The State News.
The new MSU looks a lot like the old MSU...
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^
Don't know if you had a chance to read in depth, the text messages between Tracy and her bestie but it does look like she had nefarious motives to begin (IJS) Not to support victim blaming or minimizing trauma but if what was released is true, Tracy wasn't honest about the consensual nature of their relationship, among other things.
If you haven't read them, it's a good read and adds some perspective. Sparty might have rushed to judgement because they weren't happy with Tucks on-field performance as measured by his pay and they wanted to find any way to get out of that contract. Anxious to see how this plays out.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:55 PM ^
The texts are heavily redacted. They read like Tucker’s lawyers want them to read.
Regardless, what he did was a fireable offense. It’s amazing how people continue to fail to under this.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:58 PM ^
Bad take and wrong thread.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:51 PM ^
"At least we still have Izzo" - I'm sure that is what they are thinking.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:13 PM ^
With everything going I would not be surprised if he decides to retire and move on.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^
Izzo loves that Michigan State spotlight finding ANY reason to be interviewed at any time during any football game or event not basketball.
I suspect he will coach at State until he dies or is forced to step down.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^
With everything going I would not be surprised if he decides to assume the position of Board of Trustees Chairman.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:13 PM ^
They did name the football building after him, didn't they? That might be why he's always interviewed.
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:53 PM ^
All this sparty drama is happening at the perfect time when they need to hire a new President and Head Coach. Hitler, assaults, phone sex, board issues, horrible roster, etc has to be very appealing for potential candidates. Oh yeah, and a delusional fanbase who is letting everyone know that the only coach they will be satisfied with is Urban Meyer.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^
We have a tire fire...
Couches burning since the world's been turning...
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^
I'm sure Sparty think turning like a record player since they probably believe the earth is flat.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^
Hey you think that is wild? People on this board think Fleck is leaving a solid Minnesota program to coach MSU.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:28 PM ^
OK:
1. MSU is likely to have to pay Mel most of the $80 million on the contract.
2. The rich alumni contributed about $20 million of the $95 million total owed.
3. That means the University is stuck with upwards of $70 million in exposure.
4. The big money donors have headed for the hills (see: Ishbia, Matt)
5. The BoT is hopelessly dysfunctional.
6. They do not have a President and it is unknown who that might be.
7. The AD is in over his head.
8. The new football building is named after the basketball coach.
In short, who on earth wants to be coach there? They will be lucky to get a middling MAC coach.
Top 25 program? My ass...
October 23rd, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
They will be challenged to remain in the top 25 teams of our 18-team conference.
October 23rd, 2023 at 4:39 PM ^
B1G will institute regulation to kick Sparty out.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:28 PM ^
It's quite amazing. Really think they couldn't go any further Sparty No! than their "Tuck Cummin" coach literally jerking off to the No Means No vendor/assault victim on the phone.
But then, Hitler! enters the conversation.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^
^^^THIS is some really creepy shit^^^
October 23rd, 2023 at 1:58 PM ^
Yikes. Fish rots from the head down, they say. Seems to be the case here. I now get why they have not been able to land a new President.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:05 PM ^
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^
Hasn't been their day, their week, their month, or even their year.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
One of the most fascinating things about fandom when all is not well is that, when you have scenarios like this sort of infighting and controversy among university leadership, when you have a football culture that is in a dire state with lawsuits from your disgraced former coach incoming, and when you are so fast asleep that Hitler ends up on the scoreboard, your fans are willing to bankrupt the University to send Urban Meyer into Thunderdome.
October 23rd, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
Izzo screaming "Who Runs Thunderdome"
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:10 PM ^
All the more reason Urbz would be more than happy to come to Moo U.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:10 PM ^
The Chair is supposed to let his/her Board conduct its business of governing via consensus and/or compromise, always keeping the best interests of the institution in mind. Vassar's ego seems to drive her to disregard everything except her own wishes. MSU will never turn their ship around until they at least get their Board working well together.
I feel sorry for MSU at this point.
Yes, tire fire seems does like the right image...
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^
To paraphrase Clubber Lang:
I don't hate MSU. But I pity the fool.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:31 PM ^
But there will be no Rocky redemption story here.
They used those karma points up with Lombardi's arm punt game.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:14 PM ^
The abyss that MSU has found is no longer worth gloating over. The depth of dysfunction is hurting the reputation of the state, its residents, and its affiliated institutions. The issues that need to be addressed go well beyond a rivalry, and we would all be better off if they are fixed. It's time for Gretch to fix her damn alma mater.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
100%. They've taken about a half-dozen wrong turns, and the Gov. needs to blow it all up, and use whatever power she has to put entirely new leadership in place. MSU probably college educates more Michiganders than any other school, and while I don't mind seeing them slip on the football field, this has all gotten way out of hand.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:58 PM ^
Bingo. MSU is an asset for this state. It being so while being led by clowns is testament to the most of the faculty and staff.
The board needs to be broomed out and replaced.
October 23rd, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^
Good point.
Can they be forced to remove the word "Michigan" from the name of the University? Change it to "East Lansing State University" or some such?
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:15 PM ^
This is a LONG overdue change.
The turmoil of ousting the Board Chair is super embarrassing and a bad look for the university, but it would be FAR worse to not make a change.
I don’t doubt that MSU will find a way to fuck this up, but 1) if there’s multiple shitshows already, why not add one thing to the pile?, and 2) if you’re looking at rock bottom, cleaning house isn’t a bad idea
I fully support the Trustee and Faculty Chair who are in open revolt here. We sometimes forget that the MSU AD and the MSU student body are not the same. As much as the football program lit themselves on fire, the Board is fucking over the entire institution.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:29 PM ^
The BoT and pres and provost have all changed, in some cases several times over, since Nassar. And the BoT are ELECTED officials by residents in the state of Michigan, same as UM regents. And yet nothing changes.
There's a deeper issue that goes beyond the individuals, but I don't know what it is.
October 23rd, 2023 at 2:15 PM ^
There must be something wrong with me and my vocabulary. All this time I was thinking - you can't spell dysfunction without MSU... The letters don't seem to fit, but - the description does.