OT: LOST- The Candidate
Last time he listened to Jack about a bomb not going off, it didn't end too well for him...
I think they're even now.
If it didn't, his plan wouldn't have worked.
Ambiguous as hell
The creators have stated all along that the major plot lines will be wrapped up and there will be some closure.
And I agree with some of the sentiment above, best show ever.
I realize the previews this season have usually been anything but, but I think next weeks episode could be a this whole story from the MiB's perspective. Considering how good the Richard flashback episode was, I have high hopes.
is the only one capable of killing the black smoke. He can withstand the high electromagnetic energy (which is why they tested him) and the smoke can't pass through those fences. I'm guessing those two facts along with Locke trying to have him killed have to play together somehow....
with Desmond, e-m radiation, and smoke monster. I'm not sure Jacob wants the man in black to be killed/destroyed though. He never once mentioned it as far as I can recall, and if there are any parallels to God/Lucifer, then I'd think Jacob would only want to contain the man in black...
You are both correct (I think) but are missing some points:
1) Desmond could be the only one to kill him, but that doesn't mean Jack isn't the "one". The "one" isn't meant to kill the MiB, but to oppose him (God v. Satan).
2) Desmond was brought back to the island by Whitmore, not Jacob. Jacob was the one telling the candidates to come back. So Jacob's not wanting to kill the MiB has nothing to do with Desmond.
Didn't Alpert's wife tell him he had to kill the man in black in his episode? Also, the parallels are not to God/Lucifer. They are to another mythology. I will leave it at that and you can look it up if you want.
She told him (through Hurley) that he "has to stop the man in black, stop him from leaving the island or we all go to hell"
Not to kill him.
left to go. Next episode is entitled "Across the Sea" and the featured characters are Jacob and the MiB. I am kinda torn between I can't wait to see what finally happens vs "damn it's over." Also, why so much Kate hate?
because she is a bitch
I don't hate Kate, but I am finding her more and more annoying. She always seems to get in the way of things.
In the most recent issue of Playboy there is an interview with Matthew Fox (aka Jack Shepard). He doesn't reveal much about the show, but he revealed a few things:
1) He was one of the characters on the show that had input/knowledge of the finale
2) In response to what is going to happen with his character he said something to the effect of "I can't really tell you, but it's going to be freaking awesome" (not an exact quote - sorry I am at work and without the magazine).
That being said, I have high hopes for what happens with Jack. I think throughout the whole series they have made attempts to mislead us - and are doing so in this final season as well (last night with the bomb on the sub). But in the end, MiB has to be bad and Jack has to be THE candidate. I mean, really - Hurley? No way - too many fans would be pissed. Sawyer? Possibly but he is not the hero - he is the badass. I'm betting on him doing something "badass" (copyright project badass) in the finale to help them get off the island and leave jack behind to protect it.
Overall I felt that this was a pretty strong episode, the relationship between the sideways world and the island world seems to be getting closer to a breaking point. For example: as Jack stood over Lockes bed in the hospital and Locke, in his sleep, said some things to Jack that he had told him in on the island in the past.
A few things I didnt like were how they handled Sayid and Lapidus. Since episode 4 Sayid has been a creepy, evil Sayid. Suddenly, and without any kind of exposition that gives some form of explanation, Sayid is a good guy again and he sacrifices his life for the others. I tend to believe that Lapidus isnt dead yet simply because we didnt actually see him die but if he is in fact dead I think thats a pretty shitty way to end the characters run, smash him in the face with a heavy metal door and you never see him again.
Otherwise I felt the eppy was good stuff, it was sad to see Sun and Jin die but as long as they died together I am happy. It will be interesting to see just how Jack reacts to all this, he has finally begun to believe in himself and what he is capable of but the deaths obviously hurt him badly. Will he feel a need for revenge against MiB or will he be much more calm and quit about it like Jacob?
Also, where the hell is Alpert? He went off with a couple people to destroy the plane and hasnt been seen since, he must be coming back soon. And as for Desmond, since he is not in the final cast shot, I can only assume that he is the one who will actually be replacing Jacob. He is the one who must take Jacobs place and must bottle up the evil that threatens the world. Jack is a prime candidate but I dont believe he ends up as the replacement.
I think that since Jacob/MiB cannot kill each other, it's a pretty decent extrapolation to think that Jack is "the one" (as Sayid said) who will have to kill MiB/Smokey/Fake Locke, and Desmond will stay behind to protect the island and be the new Jacob, as he is able to seemingly travel between the two worlds with his mind, etc., and has the strongest awareness of both worlds. Thus, my prediction is that Jack ends up being the one to slay MiB or at least defeat him to the extent that they can get off the island, and Desmond stays behind to be the new Jacob.
Or...because Desmond can withstand the crazy electromagnetic stuff, HE is the one to kill MiB, and Jack is the one who stays behind to become the new Jacob.
Here's an idea that I haven't seen thrown out there: Any chance Richard Halpert is the new Jacob/MiB? We already know he's been granted immortaility and cannot be killed. Hmm. . We also know he and MiB have somewhat similar back stories, I believe, as Fake Locke talked about having a mother once, and we know she was on the island and will be in next week's episode from the preview below. . . It's just a thought. Either way, we get MiB's back story next week, which is going to be awesome.
The Woman in that clip looks familiar but I can't figure out exactly why. Was she previously on the show? If so, who is she? Maybe I just recognize her from something else, I just can't place it.
No, it's not.
No. The woman in question is Allison Janney. She has played many parts in her day. Kind of like the female version of John C. McGinley. She is mainly a character actor that when people see her say, "hey it's that one woman!" Most people would probably recognize her as Ellen Page's stepmother in Juno.
Ah, but Sayid sparred Desmond...just as Jack sparred Sayid. It's said he was going to become evil...but Sayid made the choice to stay good, and make up for his sins.
And what about Sun and Jin's daughter? Whhhaaaaaaa!
that the man in black (new Locke) wants to kill the candidates (and Desmond). But I' confused about the bomb on the plane. New Locke blamed it on Whitmore and then took it himself to try and kill the candidates (that part is clear). This brings up a couple questions:
- Did Whitmore really put the bomb on the plane and why? If he wanted the only access off the island to be the sub why not just blow up the plane without rigging it up to kill people (since killing people doesn't seem to be part of his agenda)?
- Does new Locke need a vessel to get off the island? Does he even really want off the island? Maybe he just wants to destroy Jacob and his potential candidates?
I doubt he needs actual transportation off the island. The plane/sub thing was a solution to the problem of how to kill a group of people you can't kill yourself without them realizing you are trying to kill them.
Things are never really clear in Lost until long after they occur. Although it seems that Locke wanted to kill the candidates, recall that he gave the bomb to the one person who professed that he would not be boarding the sub. It's at least plausible that he intended to kill only Jack (because he said he refused to leave the island) and leave with the others.
As for the bomb on the plane, didn't Aplert, Ben and Miles run off to blow up the plane? Seems more likely that they rigged the bomb than Whitmore.
The others had C4. There was an episode where they went to one of the Dharma stations to get some.
forgot about that part.
Good question about the bomb - I like how the Captain below mentions Richard and Miles (had forgotten about Miles) went off to go blow up the plane - so I bet it has something to do with them.
That being said, the producers mentioned they had to spend X number of episodes trying to get you to believe FLocke could be a good guy, so that is probably why that part was in the episode.
On your second point, the writers have made it pretty clear that the island is the cork holding back the gates of hell. So FLocke = Satan (or something like that) = wanting to get everyone off the island = unleash hell. He probably doesn't need a mode of transportation, but he needs all the candidates off the island. Who knows if he stays or goes - does it really matter? Hell will be unleashed anyway.
I'm a bit confused by what FLocke needs to do to the candidates. I thought he either needed to kill them all or get them all off the island. But on the last episode he put that bomb on the sub- why bother doing that if he just needed them off the island? They were on the sub and leaving....so shouldn't that have been it?
That has to tie in with all this .... somehow.
I'm guessing it does one episode before the finale, so it'll go Jacob/MiB episode, tying the alternate universe with the island, the finale. Anyway, that's what I am hoping, and very much hoping that the altnerate universe was not just a waste of time. Most people were better off never goin' to the island, which I find to be very interesting...
Anyone else?
the kid (young Jacob?) that only Locke and Desmond (I think) can see.
False -
Sawyer saw him earlier in the season and I think Richard saw him as well. Perhaps even Hurley/Jack as well when they were away from the temple - I don't remember.