just what the Pistons need: a third string center. Joe Dumars was replaced by a mean ol' alien a few years back you guys.
OT: John Kuester HAS to go
January 19th, 2011 at 11:10 PM
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OT: John Kuester HAS to go
January 19th, 2011 at 11:11 PM | 
Joe Dumars has to go.
Joe Dumars has to go.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:11 PM |
^^^^^^This
^^^^^^This
Lock the thread. Pasadenablue FTW.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:14 PM |
I was on the fence about this...
I was on the fence about this...
until we used all of our cap space on fucking Ben Gordon and Charlie V. That was supposed to be the whole perk of the Chauncey trade... clean house, clear up space and sign good free agents. Except we didn't, and then signed a team full of roll players who don't fit together.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:17 PM |
I have to admit I haven't
I have to admit I haven't
I have to admit I haven't followed them very closely since the Chauncey days, but I took issue with getting rid of Larry Brown, then Flip Saunders. What the hell was wrong with those two guys?
January 19th, 2011 at 11:19 PM |
Thought the same thing with
Thought the same thing with
Thought the same thing with Carlisle.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:23 PM |
I don't think either of those
I don't think either of those
I don't think either of those can be pinned on Joe D. Bill Davidson was pissed at Brown for turning his "medical leave" into a vacation and interviewing with other teams while coaching the Pistons. As for Saunders, the players just tuned him out after a while.
But the personnel decisions - those are another story.
January 20th, 2011 at 12:46 AM |
I'm pretty sure Larry Brown quit...like usual
I'm pretty sure Larry Brown quit...like usual
But yeah, Joe D has to go. The goodwill for his trades for Big Ben and Rasheed has expired and been trumped significantly by the Darko miss, Chauncey trade and absolute waste of cap space on Gordon and Charlie V.
January 20th, 2011 at 1:42 AM |
LB = Burned Bridges, FS = Players ran him out
LB = Burned Bridges, FS = Players ran him out
Larry Brown was talking with Cleveland about their vacant front office gig while coaching the Pistons in the Conference Finals. I mean there was no threat of him being fired. He had a safe gig. Mr. Davidson does not like people who are not loyal to him. His romancing with other teams was part of the baggage he brought to Detroit.
Flip lost the team. Ben Wallace refused to go into a game. Rasheed didn't listen to him. I mean, I liked him. He is a solid NBA head coach for sure. But Ben, Rasheed, Rip and Tayshaun are all crybabies. Looks at the number of T's Rip and Rasheed got. And Tayshaun is now sparring back and forther with the current coach. I don't know if they let that title get to their head or what, but those attitudes bring a team down.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:19 PM |
they arent role players.
they arent role players.
they arent role players. they're all need the ball. they're all shooters.
CV - shooter
Rip - shooter
gordon - shooter
even our point guards aren't true distributors - they're slashers and scorers.
its a shitshow.
This is home...
January 19th, 2011 at 11:29 PM |
Well, yeah
Well, yeah
But my point remains the same. Dumars seriously effed this up, yo.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:37 PM |
it IS FUBAR. its actually
it IS FUBAR. its actually
it IS FUBAR. its actually worse than having a bunch of role players. at least role players know how to play in a team. these guys are all bball prima donnas. its awful.
This is home...
January 19th, 2011 at 11:54 PM |
And after all that
And after all that
he signed TMac. Does not compute.
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January 20th, 2011 at 12:17 AM |
TMac
TMac
The T-Mac thing is nothing. He is on a very small one year contract. If he bounces back from injury it is a great move, if he doesn't it is a no move. It doesn't hurt them at all. In fact it is an expiring contract (even though it is very small). And if he bounces back big he would be a great trade asset.
January 20th, 2011 at 1:47 AM |
I think Joe realized...
I think Joe realized...
...that Detroit is what it is. It's not a prime free agent spot in hoops. They play way out in Auburn Hills and it's cold here with no nightlife. Chicago, NYC, LA, Miami (WTF???) and Dallas (Big Spender Cuban) are more prime locations for those guys. Look at where Carmelo wants to go.
So Joe realized he has to go for these mid-range guys (Charlie V. and Gordon) and guys needing to prove something (T-Mac). FWIW, T-Mac has shown to be an excellent acquisition.
January 20th, 2011 at 3:48 AM |
As soon as they finally lock
As soon as they finally lock
As soon as they finally lock down a deal to sell the team, they're going to move them to downtown detroit. I hope. It's not NY or LA or even Bratislava but it should help things.
We've got some decent young guys in Jerebko, Daye, and Monroe. I think as soon as the team is sold and a new coach is hired, they can clean house and have a short rebuilding period with any luck.
-Hail-
January 19th, 2011 at 11:25 PM |
c'mon show him sum love, well
c'mon show him sum love, well
c'mon show him sum love, well at least until we see what his son can do
Immigration papers for entry into #hokenation; COMPLETE!!!!!!
January 20th, 2011 at 2:56 PM |
wrong
wrong
http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-joe-dumars/
Read that link...i believe you are wrong..he has made mistakes but time and time again corrects them.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:13 PM |
The Pistons have to
The Pistons have to
The Pistons have to go.
Bring on spring ball! Blitzes, corners NOT playing 10 yards off the receiver, and a 4-3!
January 19th, 2011 at 11:13 PM |
I'd say half our roster has
I'd say half our roster has
I'd say half our roster has to go as well....
January 19th, 2011 at 11:13 PM |
But wait...
But wait...
He was the "mastermind" behind the Cleveland offense.... I mean who could have ever come up with "Give Lebron the ball". Obviously this guy is a basketball genius.
/s
Sadly until the team gets new ownership Kuester and Joe D's jobs are safe.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:13 PM |
Rip has to go.
Rip has to go.
Rip has to go.
UM football is my heroine
January 20th, 2011 at 12:25 AM |
We can't give him away.
We can't give him away.
We can't give him away. Literally.
"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."
January 19th, 2011 at 11:14 PM |
Cavs fan here to remind you
Cavs fan here to remind you
it could be worse
ALWAYS remember the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules
January 19th, 2011 at 11:14 PM |
Move the Pistons to Vegas.
Move the Pistons to Vegas.
Move the Pistons to Vegas.
I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.
January 20th, 2011 at 12:05 AM |
Pacer Fan here
Pacer Fan here
Still bitter/HORRIBLY depressed about the brawl.. fuck the Pistons.. especially Ben Wallace and John Greene. Ron Artest is an idiot, I know.. Neg away.
You're HIV-Aladeen.
January 20th, 2011 at 12:07 AM |
We would, but even the
We would, but even the
We would, but even the omnipresent creator doesn't give two shits about the Pacers.
Sent From My Commodore 64
January 20th, 2011 at 12:26 AM |
The Malice in the Palace was
The Malice in the Palace was
The Malice in the Palace was one of the greatest things I've ever seen on live TV. I see absolutely no reason to be depressed about it, it was amazing!
That being said, sometimes I forget that the Pacers exist.
January 20th, 2011 at 12:26 AM |
How'd you like getting
How'd you like getting
How'd you like getting tayshauned back in '04?
January 20th, 2011 at 12:12 PM |
Indiana still has a pro
Indiana still has a pro
Indiana still has a pro basketball team? Who knew?
Syracuse '03, Michigan G'05
Space bitches, space.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:15 PM |
well, if we fire him this
well, if we fire him this
well, if we fire him this quickly that will be what...6 coaches in the last 10 years? no one is gonna wanna come here.
and ya, idk why rip didnt play tonight
Status: Pending
January 19th, 2011 at 11:22 PM |
Most likely
Most likely
RIP hasn't played in something like 4 games now (forgive me if not exactly accurate but know its close). I have heard it is because he is the key in the Carmelo deal to the Nets, and if he gets hurt or something we would be stuck with his 12 million dollar contract for the rest of the year.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:23 PM |
ya but the deal fell through
ya but the deal fell through
ya but the deal fell through earlier today. hes gonna be traded,just dont know to whom or for whom
Status: Pending
January 19th, 2011 at 11:35 PM |
Who's gunna take him and his
Who's gunna take him and his
Who's gunna take him and his rediculous contract? Can't we just cut him?
UM football is my heroine
January 19th, 2011 at 11:55 PM |
They might have to think
They might have to think
They might have to think about buying him out.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:24 PM |
Hamilton didn't play
Hamilton didn't play
because the Pistons were holding him out just in case the Carmelo to NJ deal went through. Now that the Nets nixed on the deal, Detroit's stuck with him until they can find someone to take him. I'll give you one guess as to whether that will happen.
"Hoke, you're my best friend," - Miss Daisy.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:15 PM |
Disagree with both
Disagree with both
Team needs a point guard and a defensive center. I love Greg Monroe - great pick. Austin Daye is going to be a very special player. Outside of Tayshaun and RIp - this is a very young team.
Point guard, defensive center, and figure out who you want as your primary shooting guard (stuckey or gordon).
Kuester is stuck with an odd line up and he is trying to make it work. Once rip and tayshaun are gone - this team becomes infinitely more defined.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:16 PM |
Pardon my french but Mrs.
Pardon my french but Mrs.
Pardon my french but Mrs. Davidson is a trash bag gold digging whore who needs to stop expecting $400M and drop the team. She pissed off Ilitch and now nothing has happened since Gores emerged as the new bidder.
Sorry to Mr. D for having to see his team turn to ruin like this.
North Campus' resident Sport Management major
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:16 PM |
Dumars
Dumars
Definitely agree that Kuester may need to leave, but so does Dumars. He has started to make more and more questionable decisions, and it's really hurting the organization for the long run.
I can only continue to reference the fact that I live in an onion factory.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:19 PM |
As a Knicks fan
As a Knicks fan
I assure you Dumars can't any worse than his former teammate Isiah.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:22 PM |
Teal Jerseys
Teal Jerseys
He could bring back the teal jerseys...
January 19th, 2011 at 11:20 PM |
Q is just dealing with the
Q is just dealing with the
Q is just dealing with the terrible hand he was dealt. Dumars can't make moves because he doesn't really have an owner. Yeah, Joe D really screwed up with BG and Charlie V. Really, really, really screwed up. Right now he can't do anything to fix it though, because he doesn't have an owner that will authorize changes to the payroll. Once the team gets sold, then you can make a judgement on Q.
"That broke a lot of Irish hearts. Now isn't that too bad?" - Bo
January 19th, 2011 at 11:22 PM |
I have to go
I have to go
I have to go. Save my seat, bro. (Where did you say the loo was?)
January 19th, 2011 at 11:27 PM |
Side note
Side note
What exactly is the point of the draft lottery when it's now heavily weighted toward the worst teams? When it was first started, every non-playoff team had the same odds, so as to discourage tanking. Now it's so weighted that tanking still makes sense.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:21 PM |
I say..
I say..
Joe D gets a last mulligan. He built our Conference Finals teams from nothing. Lately he has been garbage (in a "what have you done for me lately league), but I'd still give him one more shot with a new coach. Kuester needs to go soon though. He has that locker room incredibly divided right now.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:21 PM |
Keep Kuester
Keep Kuester
Get a top 5 pick... then fire him. I gave up on this season after the first five games.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:31 PM |
Bulls Fan
Bulls Fan
As a Bulls fan I take great joy in having seen the Knicks under Isiah Thomas and the Pistons recently.
Those Charlie V and Ben Gordon signings were indefensible. The fact is, you need a top 10 guy surrounded by good to above average system players or 2 guys in that 11-25 range with solid role players to even think about contending. Wasting your cap space on two shoot-first dudes who are below average in every other facet of the game is idiotic.
Plus, he botched that Darko pick.
Not sure why he still gets a free pass from the media for the most part.
January 19th, 2011 at 11:32 PM |
Those 3s at the end when we
Those 3s at the end when we
Those 3s at the end when we were up... WTF
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January 19th, 2011 at 11:36 PM |
the NBA is my least favorite pro sport...
the NBA is my least favorite pro sport...
I really don't even pay attention to it until 2nd round of playoffs....I think growing up in the 80's I got spoiled with bird, magic, gnarles b, isiah, MJ and the great TEAMS they were on...todays NBA with rare exceptions (spurs and celtics maybe) is lazy basketball with little effort and too much one on one iso plays. So my point is I am apathetic towards the 'stones and their coach. A lockout may help change the game?
January 19th, 2011 at 11:56 PM |
Hell I'm only a junior in
Hell I'm only a junior in
Hell I'm only a junior in high school and I don't even hardly watch the NBA anymore! Besides Michigan football I watched the Red Wings religiously through late elementary school. The Pistons were my 2nd favorite, I watched them but not as much as the Red Wings in 04. But when the playoffs came I watched all of it! Still can't believe how they dominated the Lakers! Then 05 came around and the NHL had the lockout, so I couldn't watch the wings so I watched the Pistons religiously. Was devastated when they lost in the championship 4-3. And I don't think my fandom for the Pistons/NBA has ever been the same since Robert Horry's shot.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
January 20th, 2011 at 12:15 AM |
The NBA was in its prime
The NBA was in its prime
The NBA was in its prime during the 80s and 90s. I used to watch all of the games whenever I could but nowadays its pretty much torture to watch. I wish that there was a relegation and promotion set-up like in the EPL. The top teams will play each other instead of watching waterdowned games. Maybe have four divisions/leagues with 16 teams each. We could have single elimination/or aggregate home and away tourneys, the normal playoff schedule, and games outside of the NBA.
Joe Dumars has to go.
This is home...
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