OT: GoT S8 E2
I’m the Fucking King!!
Every Throne belongs to me!!
#DragonsInSpace
April 22nd, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^
Night_King, where are you?
Kinda busy at the moment.
I’m guessing that the Mother of Dragons will be all for his death, then creepy Bran saves him from death.
Edit: did I say Bran? I meant Ser Brienne
April 24th, 2019 at 10:12 AM ^
Need to sharpen my “game”...I wasn’t sure of the OP topic...kept reading it as “got sight epp two”....thinking WTF is this OT about...
April 21st, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
Perhaps the best episode yet that didn't include a battle or any major action, imo.
April 21st, 2019 at 10:25 PM ^
I liked it a lot. I’m glad we got more time with the characters before the upcoming battles.
You mean before they all die in episode 3 :(
April 21st, 2019 at 11:10 PM ^
Yeah, what a cock tease.
Is that an Unsullied joke?
April 22nd, 2019 at 10:19 AM ^
I think you are missandei point.
April 22nd, 2019 at 12:28 AM ^
Yep. And a fond farewell for some of them no doubt. My guess is Brienne dies in Jaime’s arms.
I say it's the other way around.
April 22nd, 2019 at 10:23 AM ^
Baby dies in her womb and the little white crawler kills her by tearing itself out alien-style.
April 22nd, 2019 at 12:22 PM ^
My money is on Arya to take out Cersei. Maybe disguised as Jamie though.
Would love this!
Would hate...Arya disguised as Jamie, approaches Cersei thinking she is safe. Cersei has other plans, pulls out shiv, stabs and kills Arya. As Cersei thinks she is saying goodbye to Jamie, mask comes off to reveal who it is.
April 21st, 2019 at 10:25 PM ^
Danny is the prince who was promised and she’s going to kill John to bring forth light bringer. She’ll be a murderous tyrant just like her father thus putting the 7 kingdoms back at square one.
I don't think any of that shit is going to happen. If there was going to be a lot of "twists" and all of the stuff from fan theories was going to come out, they could not and would not have used two episodes to essentially "banter about old shit." Not complaining, it was a very satisfying episode from a character stand-point, but those were precious minutes ticking away from a story-telling perspective.
This is setting up for a really straight-forward ending. The "living" win the war, Bron turns the tables and assassinates Cersei and that other iron-born asshole, Jon and Dany "find a way" through deep love and rule from Kings Landing with Sansa and/or Arya as warden-ess(?) of a free north. They don't have time for the narrative exposition that would be required for any really complicated ending. I think the Dany-Jon-Sansa conflict is just a head fake at this point.
To flip a saying from earlier on the show on its head, "if you were expecting this to have a deep mind-blowing conclusion, you haven't been paying attention."
It is GOT, so it awesome, but this is story telling "by numbers" at this point.
No way in hell Jon and Dany both live through this. No way. Everyone from GRRM on down has said to get ready for a "bittersweet" ending. So that tells me that Cersei is going to die/be forcibly removed from power in some form, because letting her win the game would be a fully bitter, traumatizing ending. But it's not going to be some "living happily ever after" ending, either.
It can be "bittersweet" in a lot of ways. Jamie could die, Sansa or Arya could die. They have expanded the "main cast" at Winterfell to include so many people that it can be a "bittersweet" ending in like 25 different ways that have nothing to do with Jon and Dany.
I don't think George RR Martin is involved in the narrative direction of the show right now, nor do I think that the "broad strokes" that he has given D&D are any more than letting them in on brain-storming that he is doing if he ever gets around to writing those books. He is writing and releasing stand-alone Targaryen family histories right now instead of releasing ASOIAF books.
April 22nd, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
He's never going to finish those books. He's 70, looks 80, and is probably 100 pounds overweight.
I have a feeling he's going to die Tyrion's way sooner rather than later. Which oddly enough is the same way I'd like to go.
Dani dies (with her dragon) and Jon avenges her by becoming the Lord of Light and eventually killing the Night King (who may be warged into Bran at that point, dunno). Winterfell falls when the dead in the crypt come back to life, but some escape and go to King's Landing to try to rally the Golden Company to their cause. Jon's dragon gets killed by Chekhov's Crossbow at King' Landing but he survives. Cersei is killed by Jamie to keep her from blowing up King's Landing (and dies in the process). Jon takes the Iron Throne very reluctantly.
The end?
Jamie killing Cersei would be the biggest nerdgasm of my life. I don't know how they could let that opportunity go by.
I'm betting the following characters survive:
Arya, Sansa, Jon, Tyrion, Brienne, Hound
The following die:
Cersei, Bronn, that creepy-ass hand of Cersei, Jamie, Bran, Danaerys, Beric, Giantsbane, Dolorous Edd, Davos, Jorah, etc..
I'm not sure about Sam, but leaning towards a valiant death.
I'll also be crushed if both of the remaining dragons die.
I would not be surprised if Sansa becomes queen after all is said and done if they kill both Jon and Danaerys.
If Cersi does not die at the end, even if the south doesn't win... fuck HBO for letting that opportunity slip by.
If it was the books, I'd immediately bet the house that Cersei and the south win. Fuck that Santa Claus looking fuck if the north loses.
Yep and that's just fine by me. I think the death of Ned, the Red Wedding, Ramsey's sadism, and Cersei being able to blow up half of Kings Landing with no apparent consequence has managed to disguise for some people that this series(both books and show) is still a hero's journey. There are a lot of hero's and not all of them will make it(either by living or by overcoming their flaws), but all of them have significant challenges(both external and internal) to overcome and a hero's journey is about both overcoming your flaws AND paying for your decisions. So a satisfying ending to the series necessarily will have happy elements to it as that is what this story has always been building to.
There will be some bad stuff that happens and characters who have to make terrible choices and I have a feeling everyone who seems to want a scorched earth ending to this will have enough pathos to make themselves feel smart for being able to enjoy something without a perfectly happy ending.
You have to balance honoring the story with trying to not deeply anger/traumatize people with a nhilistic ending. There's a reason nhilisitic entertainment has a limited popular appeal, it's boring and it makes people feel that the time they invested in these characters was wasted.
I don't think this is necessarily true at all. They have nearly six hours of screen time left. While it's relatively short for this show, it's an eternity in Hollywood. The Usual Suspects revealed the twist in a snappy 1 min montage. There can absolutely be twists still to come. Not saying there will or won't be but they have plenty of time to make it happen.
April 21st, 2019 at 10:40 PM ^
for us non-watchers, can you give us a quick synopsis of the episode?
April 21st, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^
Everyone - less Cersei - are at Winterfell (largest region/city in the north close to the zombie white walker army) becoming chummy with their impending death coming soon. John Snow or Aegon Targaryen tells Daenerys who he really is.
I think everyone’s ready for the battle with these first two episodes setting everything up pretty nicely.
ty.,
about those dragons, who gets those? can we use them to fly over columbus?
April 21st, 2019 at 11:12 PM ^
Saw some side boob of Arya which was uncomfortable because she was very much underage when the show started. That was my main takeaway. Also not the basis for my cock tease comment above.
April 21st, 2019 at 11:57 PM ^
Cute ass though.
April 22nd, 2019 at 12:23 AM ^
The only thing more disturbing than the Arya sex scene was Sir Lady Brienne of Tarth’s smile.
Could have most like been a stunt boob/body with her head Fx'd on it.
No, it was real. She said so in an interview.
The Many-Boobed God?
April 22nd, 2019 at 12:19 PM ^
I like boobs more than most, but that shit was really uncomfortable for me. She has been portrayed as a child the entire series. Just not cool, imo.
Also, I think at least 75% of the dialogue is just complete shit now. All meta jokes, and everyone has basically become a caricature of themselves. I really, really hate that. D/D are not good writers, at all. That's a fact.
I'm still entertained by the show, but it could be soooo much more.
April 22nd, 2019 at 12:23 PM ^
I think we would have been a lot more uncomfortable if the characters were the same age as they were in the books. Pretty sure Dany was like 12 when she married Drogo.
That said, it was weird seeing her all grown up. Her face still looks like a kid.
Sansa on the other hand....
I don't disagree with this. Varys (arguably the best character early on) said not a single word last night but we instead had a lot of screen time with Tormund making passes at Ser Brienne.
The show has devolved from something really smart to raunchy one liners and feel good hugs. I'm not so snobby that I don't find it entertaining but it's not the same show anymore. I don't necessarily think it's an indictment of D&D's writing abilities, but at best, they're purposely catering to a more mainstream audience now.
Maybe I was just way too high but the scene with Lady Brienne being knighted felt super weird.
"And then everyone started clapping" is how every dumb fake Tumblr story ends. Just felt really out of character and forced for everyone involved.
April 21st, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
A girl has no virginity
April 21st, 2019 at 10:54 PM ^
Thank god that a girl is 22.
April 21st, 2019 at 10:57 PM ^
Yeah, I looked that up too haha. Felt uncomfortable, probably because when the show started she was 13ish and looked 10.
AND was the same character. I thought about this in terms of Anna Paquin and why I wasn't bugged when she got naked in True Blood, but this scene disquieted me a little bit. There was no disconnect from the character to the actress AND it also felt as if not enough time had passed to make this okay.
Which, frankly, may have been Maisie Williams' goal, a BIG flashing light saying "I'm 22 now!"
Could also feel uncomfortable because while she has a woman's body, her face is still young and still androgynous. She could be a little boy or little girl. Most, if not all, the other women who get naked in GOT are very attractive in a feminine way. She's different.
Haa!! I questioned the wife about her age - didn't feel comfortable looking until told the actress is 22!
April 21st, 2019 at 10:58 PM ^
User's name should be Mjölnir?
April 21st, 2019 at 10:51 PM ^
Gonna get fucking real next week when Gendry gets turned into a white walker, and Arya has to kill her fuck buddy with the weapon he made for her...
ALL THE FEELS.
April 21st, 2019 at 11:54 PM ^
Much more likely he’d become a wight than a white walker.
That would suck for Arya, but her emotions won’t trump her badassedness. He’d be toast.