OT-Game of Thrones

maybe he could still be revived somehow?

I would say more but, you know, spoilers.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. 

Clearly you didn't read the books

The season openers are always weak. They are basically "remember this character? Look where they are now..."

Week 2 has the more interesting character stories and will probably have more interesting things happen.

I think the premier worked well to establish the upcoming plot conflicts while begining the process of fleshing out some of the more static characters (mance and cersei).

I think D&D will do just fine, but what I would like to address is the sullied fans who are setting themselves up for great disappointment thinking that a text like 'Feast' could possibly transfer over to television;  the book is a well described travelouge and in absence of a septon maribold we are going to get a lot of monologues explaining what is going on; it is what it is.

For the record I dig the way they did Maggy and was spellbound by Mance's death with Tormund, John, and Gilly/Sam watching.  

For the record part two, I am excited to see how the plots unfold without knowing just how things will go down: again Mance's death could be just that, or it could be something different, while watching I didn't know if Tormund would save him, if Mance would neal, if John would do what he did or something else.

 

I guess I just think people should make peace with the show no longer being the book and enjoy what is some great source material played out with a pretty good script and some great actors.

 

love you,

jdon

 

They're in a dead heat down the stretch and GoT pulls away at the finish line.

I have read all of TWD comics as well as GOT books, would consider myself a big fan of both. The Walking Dead is great, I like that it differs from the comics. I dislike that I have no clue what the end game is so far into the series plus it would be better with an HBO budget/lack of censorship. GOT has such good costumes/sets/acting. The bigger budget they have shows. I would give the edge to GOT.

Rick I like how you've become a badass in recent times, but you are dead to me until you fuck Julie. Get it done.

I used to love TWD.... I stopped watching at the beginning of season 4. It just became too predictable and boring for me. IMO GoT is a far better quality show

If I pick one it's GoT. It's like if TWD had 6 groups either in an alliance or fighting at any given time while warding off zombies. Oh, and the lack of cable restrictions is a plus.

It's a great question. Very tough to answer that, so it may boil down to a matter of taste.  The first three seasons of Walking Dead were absolutely astonishing. Your avatar namesake is probably one of my favorite TV characters ever.  I feel like this last season the show lost some momemtum or some of its unique appeal. Maybe because there is a sense of uncertainty about where the show is going or because the newer characters aren't that great.  (Remember Shane, T-dog, Andrea, Dale, Merle and Herschel? and even Lori).   Maybe it's hard to generate intrigue following the traumatic and exciting experience at Terminus.  This past season felt very slowly developing as well. I will say i think the next season is setting up to be pretty badass.    GOT has been consistently great in my book and it benefits from the great diversity of characters and geographic locations to keep viewers constantly engaged.  Walking Dead can become somewhat predictable:  Enter building, walker(s) jumps out, someone shoots it in the head or sticks a knife in its head, sometimes it almost kills someone but another person kills it just before it bites them. In the meantime, one of the characters is dealign with the emotional trauma of the new violent world they live in and the show spends way too much time on that, rather than advancing the plot.  At this point I feel like the characters, given all theyve been through, should be well adjusted or have killed themselves. It's been several years. 

I would put GOT way above Walking Dead.  Neither show is as good as Hannibal or Person of Interest for me, but GOT is a very close 3rd.  I would put True Detective right behind  GOT though. 

From what I understand the show will moreso be diverging from the books than anything else. Perhaps some elements of TWOW will make an appearance but I am not thinking anything earth shattering will be shown. Tonight was mostly ADWD with some AFFC- and the new Varys/Tyrion storyline. I am kinda dreading the creative liscense D&D may employ with this season, as I have been really looking forward to seeing the major ADWD storylines play out. Overall tonight's episode was fine, except for when I thought Grey Worm was recast and killed by the Sons of the Harpy.. I was also dissapointed they made Maggy the Frog hot. It will be interesting to see which way they take Mance's storyline- or not, since there was not much surrounding his death on tonight's episode... and it would probably confuse show watchers as to what is actually suppose to happen. 

If you think GRRM is ever going to actually finish another ASOIAF book, there's a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you...

I doubt you'll be seeing much spill over really.  There are so many details left out and characters taken in different directions.  Popular TV characters who are still alive who aren't in the book, etc...

 

For example, if you have read the new Sansa chapter released on GRRM's website combined with her final chapter in ADWD, and then watched the last season or last night episode, you will quickly see they are veering off in two completely different directions....

Watched the first four, can confirm a few BIG changes in the plot and direction of some minor and major characters already. I think it is safe to say that the show is taking it's own path to a similar (but ultimately different) endgame. And it's totally up to you but I have a feeling you'll be waiting quite a while for conclusions from the books.

Watched the 2nd half on my phone with no issues.

Did you flip to Captain Ron?

Newsflash. Writing is hard

I always get pissed when I see he's been out in public or doing interviews and shit. Then I remember he is human and writing thousands of pages of an incredibly tantalizing storyline is probably fairly stressful. Wish he was a robot sometimes.