OT: FSU Shooting in Library, Three Injured
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-situation-reported-florida-state-un…
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/20/at-least-two-people-reported-shot-…
http://fsunews.com/article/20141119/FSVIEW/141120001/Two-shot-inside-FS…-
Around 12:30am, a gunman entered Florida State's Strozier Library and shot three, injuring them and sending them to the hospital. As of now, there are no deaths being reported. There are varying reports about what happened to the gunman. Some are saying he is in police custody, others are saying he was shot and killed by the FSU PD. Either way, the FSU PD must be commended for their extremely quick actions which could have saved numerous lives tonight.
Here is a video taken by a student in the library just moments after the shooting occurred. I can't even imagine being in their situation, and my heart goes out to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13QfS8B6fU
Just senseless and tragic. I'm going to have a hard time sleeping tonight thinking about this. Thoughts go out to all students and families of students right now, hoping everyone stays safe.
November 20th, 2014 at 5:17 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 5:23 AM ^
Kudos to the police on this one. Normally, there are trigger happy people that kill their daughter's boyfriend or mother in-law claiming self defense and are protected by ill considered state laws. In this case, the police gave him the option to surrender and he didn't.
November 20th, 2014 at 7:34 AM ^
The tone of your statement is a little troubling, and appears to state that "THERE (police officers and law enforcement) are trigger happy people".
Over the last 10 years, over 1,501 police have been killed with an average of 150 per year (one every 58 hours). In addition, there have been 58,261 assaults against law enforcement each year, resulting in 15,658 injuries.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385458/cop-killed-every-58-hours-…
In the other direction, about 400 justified homicides by cop are reported yearly (grossly underestimated the total number of killings with statistical maximiums approaching ~3000).
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-many-americans-the-police-kill-…
At the end of the day, police have a dangerous job and they put their life on the line to deal with minor offenders to ruthless killers. Errors will be made, and we as a country should do whatever it takes to minimize that. However, they deserve our respect and understanding that when the adrenaline is pumping, they may perceive that their life is at risk. Overall, when people do stupid things with weapons around police officers, there is a substantial increase in the likelyhood for either a justified use of deadly force or worse, a deadly error.
November 20th, 2014 at 7:41 AM ^
I said that they made the right call here. If we say that police or others carrying guns are always right to shoot someone then we are setting ourselves up to praise the guilty person in certain instances. I could walk down the street and get shot and killed by some guy claiming self defense and 90 percent of the people would side with him over me because I'm just a dumb weed smoking college student.
November 20th, 2014 at 8:07 AM ^
I won't get into the Ferguson case, as their are discrepencies in regards to both sides of the story.
And no one is saying cops are blameless. If they shoot someone and the evidence argues against a justifiable use of deadly force, then they will have their day in court. However, its important to state most cops never discharge their weapon, much less kill people (and do so intentionally and unjustifiably)
November 20th, 2014 at 10:43 AM ^
You quoted a 10 year number for cop deaths and a 1 year number for killer cops. That's 150 cop deaths per year, and between 400 and 3000 killer cops per year.
Based on your numbers, I agree with you that cops are in great moral danger of becoming murderers every time they go to work, and in between 5% and 37.5% as much danger of being killed themselves.
November 20th, 2014 at 5:40 AM ^
I don't know why this crap keeps happening
November 20th, 2014 at 8:56 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^
that always quickly becomes polarized: there is a lot of middle ground to be legislated between the right to have a gun to hunt, etc. and the right of absolutely anyone to various instruments of mass mayhem. It is not simply an argument between rabid NRA members and equally rabid peaceniks. Whole lot of farmers--cops and military personnel--(members of my family) who support the right to hunt and bear arms and are opposed to assault weapons, agree on the need for character checks, waiting periods, bans on certain kinds of ammo, etc. what's disheartening is the way these tragedies are so quickly turned into ignorant dumbshows (see all the message boards this morning) as soon as something like this occurs.
November 20th, 2014 at 4:15 PM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^
Politics stops here.
November 20th, 2014 at 11:43 AM ^
...while we are at it make sure we outlaw butcher knives, steak knives, pearing knives, baseball bats, tennis rackets, beer bottles....oh nevermind
November 20th, 2014 at 12:56 PM ^
Can we outlaw dumb arguments while we're at it?
November 20th, 2014 at 2:11 PM ^
paring, not pearing.
November 20th, 2014 at 9:23 AM ^
To think I have to raise my kids in a world like this
November 20th, 2014 at 9:30 AM ^
One that has rules that criminals seem to ignore and break laws anyway?
November 20th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
The rate of violence in the United States continues to plummet and has never been lower than it is right now. A few heavily-covered indicents does not change this.
November 20th, 2014 at 2:12 PM ^
As opposed to, say, a few hundred years ago? Okay...
November 20th, 2014 at 6:21 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 6:38 AM ^
I have a serious question of my own (one I've asked here before):
What is the point of the original post? Unless MGoBlog is the *only* WWW site you visit, this story will be really hard to avoid. I saw it in several places this morning (local news, national news, at least one other spot). All this does is clutter up the board.
Thoughts, prayers ... yes, yes, of course. Must we state the obvious, OP?
November 20th, 2014 at 7:15 AM ^
Some feel more of a connection than others, but we all have our passion for Michigan football in common. Just like you might post this news or your reaction on Facebook, the OP posted it here. I personally don't have an issue with OT posts, though I know others like you do. Not to be a jerk, but the obvious solution is to not read the posts you aren't interested in. I'm not gonna lie, reading about UM/OSU in Seoul doesn't interest me, for instance-so I won't click on it.
November 20th, 2014 at 1:34 PM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^
But if I ask the same question about prayers, all of a sudden I'm a giant asshole.
November 20th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^
You're a giant asshole for a whole lot of reasons. :-D
November 20th, 2014 at 8:59 AM ^
I think the difference is that people who ask for prayers to be sent by the readership are implicitly faithful. You can immediately glean from the request for prayers that the person asking for them believes in a higher power and the power of prayer. So if you ask "what's the point of sending prayers", you can be read as challenging someone's faith. A lot of folks don't like that.
When someone asks for "thoughts to go out to the victims" or some such, it's not as clear what the end game is. So it seems a lot less combative to question that.
Just my view, of course.
November 20th, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^
doesn't necessarily mean you have to pray to a specific diety, or to any diety. To me, when I see someone asking to send out thoughts and prayers, I generally take it as having empathy or thinking of them in a way that shows support, but also that you hope everyone gets through it okay... a public statement of such is probably more beneficial in hopes that whomever is receiving those "thoughts and prayers" reads or hears it and feels better because they know others are providing that support.
November 20th, 2014 at 9:26 AM ^
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November 20th, 2014 at 9:44 AM ^
I am a religious person, but wasn't offended at all by the sentiment. But no religion, so its fine either way. I'm totally okay as long as someone doesn't jam their non-beliefs down my throat as I won't jam my beliefs down theirs. Religious tolerance is is two way street.
November 20th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
I just figured I'd point it out.
For the record, there are people who think that merely thinking strongly about someone will send them good vibes.
November 20th, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^
Understood - it was one of them thar rhetorical questions
November 20th, 2014 at 8:58 AM ^
Yes, the intention was support...I didn't realize that was ambiguous but my intention was to avoid getting into a discussion about prayer if possible. This board has a funny way of arguing about details of a post
November 20th, 2014 at 8:59 AM ^
What do you mean funny? Funny as in strange or funny as in "ha ha"...I'm not sure what you mean. Please clarify, otherwise I may be deeply offended.
November 20th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
It is a way of supporting them, exactly like "praying for" somebody. It's usually said to convey solidarity. It would be easier to understand if you weren't a robot trying to figure out human emotion.
November 20th, 2014 at 7:40 AM ^
That is scary, hope everyone ends up alright. Hopefully that gunman is no longer around if you know what i mean.
November 20th, 2014 at 7:51 AM ^
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November 20th, 2014 at 8:15 AM ^
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November 20th, 2014 at 8:41 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 9:29 AM ^
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/espnu-reporter-jokes-fsu-school-shooter…
November 20th, 2014 at 9:52 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^
November 20th, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^
Notice in the youtube the bizaare human auto-reaction to put your hand up near your face/head at any sign of trouble/bad stuff happening. Everyone has their hand up by their chin.
In sports, you'll notice that as soon as something bad happens, half the fans automatically raise their hands in the air and set them behind their heads.
Primordial, self-preservation coding in our species to protect the most vital part of the body in the face of danger.
November 20th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^