OT: FSU Shooting in Library, Three Injured

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/dangerous-situation-reported-florida-state-un…

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/20/at-least-two-people-reported-shot-…

http://fsunews.com/article/20141119/FSVIEW/141120001/Two-shot-inside-FS…-

Around 12:30am, a gunman entered Florida State's Strozier Library and shot three, injuring them and sending them to the hospital.  As of now, there are no deaths being reported.  There are varying reports about what happened to the gunman.  Some are saying he is in police custody, others are saying he was shot and killed by the FSU PD.  Either way, the FSU PD must be commended for their extremely quick actions which could have saved numerous lives tonight.

Here is a video taken by a student in the library just moments after the shooting occurred.  I can't even imagine being in their situation, and my heart goes out to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13QfS8B6fU

Just senseless and tragic.  I'm going to have a hard time sleeping tonight thinking about this.  Thoughts go out to all students and families of students right now, hoping everyone stays safe.  

Mocha Cub

November 20th, 2014 at 5:17 AM ^

Per CNN article on their main page there are 3 victims that were taken to nearby hospitals. Shooter was killed by place when he opened fire on officers after they told him to put down his weapon. Prayers go out to the victims and their families.

Izzoiswashedup

November 20th, 2014 at 5:23 AM ^

Kudos to the police on this one. Normally, there are trigger happy people that kill their daughter's boyfriend or mother in-law claiming self defense and are protected by ill considered state laws. In this case, the police gave him the option to surrender and he didn't.

coldnjl

November 20th, 2014 at 7:34 AM ^

The tone of your statement is a little troubling, and appears to state that "THERE (police officers and law enforcement) are trigger happy people".

Over the last 10 years, over 1,501 police have been killed with an average of 150 per year (one every 58 hours). In addition, there have been 58,261 assaults against law enforcement each year, resulting in 15,658 injuries.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/385458/cop-killed-every-58-hours-…

In the other direction, about 400 justified homicides by cop are reported yearly (grossly underestimated the total number of killings with statistical maximiums approaching ~3000). 

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-many-americans-the-police-kill-…

At the end of the day, police have a dangerous job and they put their life on the line to deal with minor offenders to ruthless killers. Errors will be made, and we as a country should do whatever it takes to minimize that. However, they deserve our respect and understanding that when the adrenaline is pumping, they may perceive that their life is at risk. Overall, when people do stupid things with weapons around police officers, there is a substantial increase in the likelyhood for either a justified use of deadly force or worse, a deadly error. 

Izzoiswashedup

November 20th, 2014 at 7:41 AM ^

I said that they made the right call here. If we say that police or others carrying guns are always right to shoot someone then we are setting ourselves up to praise the guilty person in certain instances. I could walk down the street and get shot and killed by some guy claiming self defense and 90 percent of the people would side with him over me because I'm just a dumb weed smoking college student.

coldnjl

November 20th, 2014 at 8:07 AM ^

I won't get into the Ferguson case, as their are discrepencies in regards to both sides of the story. 

And no one is saying cops are blameless. If they shoot someone and the evidence argues against a justifiable use of deadly force, then they will have their day in court. However, its important to state most cops never discharge their weapon, much less kill people (and do so intentionally and unjustifiably)

Jon06

November 20th, 2014 at 10:43 AM ^

You quoted a 10 year number for cop deaths and a 1 year number for killer cops. That's 150 cop deaths per year, and between 400 and 3000 killer cops per year.

Based on your numbers, I agree with you that cops are in great moral danger of becoming murderers every time they go to work, and in between 5% and 37.5% as much danger of being killed themselves.

MGlobules

November 20th, 2014 at 9:53 AM ^

that always quickly becomes polarized: there is a lot of middle ground to be legislated between the right to have a gun to hunt, etc. and the right of absolutely anyone to various instruments of mass mayhem. It is not simply an argument between rabid NRA members and equally rabid peaceniks. Whole lot of farmers--cops and military personnel--(members of my family) who support the right to hunt and bear arms and are opposed to assault weapons, agree on the need for character checks, waiting periods, bans on certain kinds of ammo, etc. what's disheartening is the way these tragedies are so quickly turned into ignorant dumbshows (see all the message boards this morning) as soon as something like this occurs.

blueheron

November 20th, 2014 at 6:38 AM ^

I have a serious question of my own (one I've asked here before):

What is the point of the original post? Unless MGoBlog is the *only* WWW site you visit, this story will be really hard to avoid. I saw it in several places this morning (local news, national news, at least one other spot). All this does is clutter up the board.

Thoughts, prayers ... yes, yes, of course. Must we state the obvious, OP?

Amaizing Blue

November 20th, 2014 at 7:15 AM ^

Some feel more of a connection than others, but we all have our passion for Michigan football in common.  Just like you might post this news or your reaction on Facebook, the OP posted it here.  I personally don't have an issue with OT posts, though I know others like you do.  Not to be a jerk, but the obvious solution is to not read the posts you aren't interested in.  I'm not gonna lie, reading about UM/OSU in Seoul doesn't interest me, for instance-so I won't click on it.

Everyone Murders

November 20th, 2014 at 8:59 AM ^

I think the difference is that people who ask for prayers to be sent by the readership are implicitly faithful.  You can immediately glean from the request for prayers that the person asking for them believes in a higher power and the power of prayer.  So if you ask "what's the point of sending prayers", you can be read as challenging someone's faith.  A lot of folks don't like that. 

When someone asks for "thoughts to go out to the victims" or some such, it's not as clear what the end game is.  So it seems a lot less combative to question that.

Just my view, of course.

GoWings2008

November 20th, 2014 at 9:03 AM ^

doesn't necessarily mean you have to pray to a specific diety, or to any diety.  To me, when I see someone asking to send out thoughts and prayers, I generally take it as having empathy or thinking of them in a way that shows support, but also that you hope everyone gets through it okay... a public statement of such is probably more beneficial in hopes that whomever is receiving those "thoughts and prayers" reads or hears it and feels better because they know others are providing that support.  

CLord

November 20th, 2014 at 11:29 AM ^

Notice in the youtube the bizaare human auto-reaction to put your hand up near your face/head at any sign of trouble/bad stuff happening.  Everyone has their hand up by their chin.

In sports, you'll notice that as soon as something bad happens, half the fans automatically raise their hands in the air and set them behind their heads.

Primordial, self-preservation coding in our species to protect the most vital part of the body in the face of danger.

Slim_Hype

November 20th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^

This is so damn heart breaking.. the shooter was my cousin Myron. He had been suffering from schizophrenia which runs In my family and know one wanted to believe him even though we lost an uncle of mine to suicide from schizophrenia. I feel for the victims..