Up here in Mammoth Lakes, we felt this one stronger and longer than the one yesterday. It lasted about 45 seconds here.
We are in Mammoth and didn’t feel a thing...but everyone’s phones started to go off in the Village with calls from Southern California.
Do you live in Mammoth? My wife and I skied there solely for 3 years before moving to Denver. We didn't enjoy CA as a whole but absolutely love Mammoth.
Cali Wolverine may live in Mammoth; we don't. We live in Alabama most of the year and are just visiting friends here for a week or so. That being said, we probably *could* live in Mammoth; we fit in better here..
We live in LA...but an awesome mountain...small town vibe...and skiing in July (this year), make Mammoth a great escape.
I'm OK in San Diego - that one lasted quite a while!
I’m in SD and I’m returning to Michigan Monday. Really hoping I get out of here before I feel one here or we break off into the ocean.
we’re ok here inSE Michigan...only shocks we’ve had recently are when the Tigers win.
Players don't seem to have noticed. Are we sure the cameraman shouldn't just quit drinking and go to bed?
Lauer said “Damn, I’m good! My fastball really has a lot of movement on it tonight.”
Far enough away that we just felt rolling. Wasn't too much of a jolt. The kiddos did a good job of kneeling and covering up in the safest part of our house. The school drills worked.
Hope everyone is safe!
Good to see another South Bayer here. I'm in Redondo.
We were having dinner at our house with my frat brother from Michigan, who now lives in Florida, and his family. His family was a bit freaked out as it was their first but he wasn't since he used to live here. It's a part of life and you get used to it.
I didn't feel the first one Thursday as I was driving at the time but my family didn't either. Others in town did. This one was a lot more obvious as the house swayed for about 45 seconds.
My kid is at camp about 80 miles from the epicenter. She definitely felt it.
Meh. Didn't feel a thing.
Apparently, neither did the players at Dodger Stadium...
However... Want to scare yourself silly? Read this: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
Soon.
Well crap. This left-coaster didn't need that on my mind this morning while eating my Grape-Nuts.
This is 100% true. Everyone talks about how LA will be destroyed with the Big One. But except for one fault line (Newport-Inglewood), the San Andreas and other major fault lines pass way east of the city.
Last year I went to see Lucy Jones, formerly of the USGS and the foremost expert in the US on earthquakes talked about the Big One. Most people affected will live in structures that are older than 1996 (last major code update) and that have a house that isn't built directly on supports on the first floor (called dingbat buildings here) and without shear walls. They will also live east of downtown LA in the Inland Empire. She predicted 1500 deaths from an 8.0 or bigger. That's a lot of people, but for a metro area of 13M+, not unheard of. Would still make it one of the worst natural disasters in US history.
What is more worrisome is the Bay Area, Portland or Seattle. SF because of where the Hayward and other faults pass. Seattle and Portland because of not as strict bulding codes. That could cause tens of thousands of deaths.
Significant difference from a 6.6 to a 7.1-- that's about 3x bigger and even more in terms of energy displacement. Good vibes for the people in SoCal, though thankfully it sounds like it was centered away from major cities.
Seems like they downgraded it to 6.9 now
nice
Watching coverage on CNN, they just said it was 11 times stronger than yesterday's quake.
You watch CNN? I didn’t realize people watched that anymore. Alan Jackson watched it back in the day.
Alan Jackson? Didn't he used to play for the Tigers?
Ya, but he’s not sure he could tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran..
Up in a lake arrowhead, lasted 40 seconds. Stay safe
I’m up in Lake Arrowhead as well. My dishes were rattling and a couple of things fell off the wall. Usually I don’t even notice them, but this was the strongest one I’ve felt. And we’re probably 100 miles from the epicenter.
Maybe I'm imagining it, but I thought at some point yesterday I heard USGS say that the Thursday quake was most likely a foreshock. A prelude to the "main event."
That looks correct now.
I certainly hope THIS is the "main event." 6.9-7.1 (I've seen both reported) magnitude is no joke.
Today’s 6.9-7.1 was a 9% chance of being higher than yesterday, which typically is less than 5% chance.
The house rolled for a very long time
Lol. I left SC partially due to quakes. That was 30 years ago. Welcome to my ex- world. Hopefully you don't get stuck on the 5 with the bridges down. Buy a quake kit. Good luck with the swarms.
California tumbles in to the sea...
I don't know if they were trolling or not, but a local radio station was playing Steely Dan's "My Old School" as I was driving home from work Friday afternoon.
That'll be the day I go back to Annandale...
One of my favorite songs.
I live in Newport Beach, on the peninsula. Felt it yesterday, felt it an hour ago. The one that just hit felt much, much stronger. Rolling sensation that kept getting stronger, lasting for over a minute. A little scary.
I like the humble brag too. Stay safe.
That’s not even the humble brag. I still own my apartment In TriBeCa even though I moved out here after 9/11.
balboa peninsula?
lived on the island back in the day. fond memories. no quakes. glad you and the other californians are okay.
Glad you are safe. Can’t imagine when terra firma is not firma.
Let me understand this correctly, people move to a place where drought is frequent and complain about a lack of rain. They move to a known earthquake area and are shocked when they get an earthquake.
I wonder if people move to say Syracuse and are shocked when they're buried in a massive snow storm.
A working definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Above we have example: A
I just hope everyone is okay, lots of family and friends there and I often wonder besides the weather whats the appeal?
I am skiing tomorrow so drought is not too big an issue this year. And hopefully some of the transplants that are overcrowding SoCal move back. Always have been earthquakes here, always will be.
This year... minus the long term unsustainable drinking water problem that will show its ugly head here soon(20 years or so). But yeah one solid season of decent snow. Live in the moment...!
Am I supposed to feel bad when people financially capable of moving ask for help but saw the signs on the wall to leave ? Yet stayed because its cool?
Asking for a friend..
I have many of the same thoughts. I think their drinking water problem would be fine if they had decent government (so it won't be fine) but yeah, you move to mudslides, earthquakes, drought, wildfires, 90s + climate change... then you get mudslides, earthquakes, drought, wildfires, 90s+ climate change.
Being honest: I lived in Lancaster, in the desert an hour from LA, for four years. I'm not a fan of how CA is governed at all (and I've been personally burned by it there) and I lived in an area that's less attractive than the LA basin or the Bay area, commuting 2 hours a day on stretches including the 405 for work.
But for all its flaws, California is a spectacular state. The natural beauty available is unparalleled, the cities offer a little bit of everything, and even a large number of the people are great.
Granted, I only lived through one earthquake (relatively small, the most damage was the shelves in one store 80 miles from me falling over), but I totally get it.
I guess it's always time to inject politics in to a discussion about earthquakes and then drinking water. Most people though don't even understand how government works because they have never served a day on the dais. I have. Blaming climate change problems on state government is pretty bush league. Michigan will also be impacted. There won't be a place not affected.
California is better prepared than any other state when it comes to earthquakes and drought. We have passed lots of infrastructure bills, including for water. There is plan after plan for water disruption.
Curiously, what would you do differently?
Love the Monday morning QBing.
In San Diego, I would start with investing in infrastructure that captures rain water as opposed to allowing 80-90% to run off in the water. Also, reopen San Onofre. Energy bills are through the roof. Gas tax, why?
Now I am ranting.
Closing San Onofre was dumb.
However, the opening of the Carlsbad desalination plant was a smart move. Covering 10% of the county's need for water and scaling available for the future has helped with a lot of water problems.
Closing San Onofre needed to happen. The nuclear technology is old and obsolete. Today's electricity prices have very little to do with the decommissioning of San Onofre, but more with the fact that SDGE and SoCalEdison are monopolies. The decommissioning of San Onofre added 3 cents on to my bill. Lots of cities now are going to Community Choice Aggregation, where joint powers authorities buy electricity from third parties for cheaper prices. Our town went with a CCA, has 50% renewables, and my electricity bill is lower than before.
As for the Carlsbad desal plant, it's ridiculously financially stupid and environmentally unsound. You will pay way more for water, especially in years like now where there is plenty of rain. Ask Santa Barbara and residents of Australia how they feel about desal and paying for shuttered desal plants. Water recycling and using grey water is the best route, even in drought years. Only 10% of our water is consumed by residential. The rest is agriculture and commercial.
The only people desal is good for are the people that construct the plants. Everyone else pays for it.
As long as people in the arid parts of the West in general don't look to the Great Lakes to solve their water problems I am fine.
Um... serious question: How, exactly, would we in California “look to the Great Lakes” to “solve (our) water problems?” What would that look like? A pipeline that runs through more than six states, from Lake Michigan to Los Angeles? A constant convoy of, say, 3,000 tanker trucks that roll from Chicago to Palm Springs every day? What exactly is your fear here?
Since you asked: You know that episode of Seinfeld where George does the opposite, and everything works out? That's how I feel about California's state government. I'd do the opposite. Of everything. Well, I guess not immigration. I'm a die-hard libertarian, so... yeah. If you're really curious email me at this username at hotmail (yes, I'm that old).
Also: I didn't blame the CA state government for climate change problems. I blamed them for drinking water problems. Climate change didn't put arsenic in the San Joaquin Valley and then inadequately monitor and control its levels in drinking water.
The California state government didn't put arsenic in the drinking water. That was private industry. But they are funding ways to remove it. https://ktla.com/2019/06/10/california-lawmakers-agree-to-tap-130m-of-clean-air-funding-to-pay-for-drinking-water/
You're located in the LAST state that should be talking about state government accountability and drinking water. Remember how Michigan's state government actually CAUSED the Flint drinking water issue by switching the water source to one that has lead in it?
I guess your arguments "don't hold water", right?
Dude, I live in NY. And yes, I am aware of how badly the Michigan government assaulted the citizens of Flint. I said I'm a libertarian - did that somehow make you think that I _like_ my state government? I don't. I don't like NY's state government, I don't like California's state government, and I don't like Michigan's state government. I can list 47 other states whose governments I also dislike.
And look. It's the State of California's job to make sure there is safe drinking water for everyone, period. It doesn't matter where the arsenic came from. You can blame private industry, you can blame the city of Los Angeles for dumping sewage in the Kettleman Hills Landfill, you can blame the state for running clean water in the California Aqueduct straight past the people who are forced to drink arsenic water, you can blame geology or geography. But whatever you blame doesn't matter. Jerry Brown and the state declared in 2012 that it was their job to protect the right of every citizen in the state to clean drinking water. And they didn't do their job. Not even close. They were life-endangeringly bad at it. For years and years and years. And the victims weren't the elites in the Bay Area who like to think that their high taxes and statist-funding cocktail parties signal their great virtue. The victims were migrants, farmers, impoverished, rural people.
And that's just the drinking water issue. Want to talk about California's high-speed rail?