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OSU-MSU developing into quite the rivalry.

First Dantonio complains about Meyer stealing Pittman and now they are upset over OSU not including shifts and motions in tape exchange.

http://twitter.com/ESPN_BigTen/status/252187594409009152

 

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:04 PM | Sour grape whiners. (Score:5 Normal)
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Sour grape whiners.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:04 PM | well (Score:5 Normal)
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Me think's that may make an appearance in TWIS.

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September 30th, 2012 at 9:49 AM | Love this "rivalry" (Score:0 Flamebait)
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If these teams started hating each other even a fraction of how badly both hate Michigan, it would be great.  Both teams and their fans obviously have enough hatred to go around; let them direct some of it toward each other.

 

 

 

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:05 PM | Wait, the coaches do tape (Score:5 Normal)
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Wait, the coaches do tape exchanges?

And then they're surprised that they try and trick them?

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:55 PM | Tape the coaches use to (Score:5 Normal)
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Tape the coaches use to prepare is typically shot from the end zone angle and it's a wide shot to see the entire field. It's completely different from what you would see on tv.

The Team, The Team, The Team.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | Slightly different (Score:1 Normal)
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Slightly different persepctive from the press box than a seat in the stadium.

"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great.  That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:08 PM | I always assumed (Score:4 Normal)
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that they did the reasonable thing and just taped the game off television and watched it, like the rest of us.

So it goes.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:09 PM | Dantonio is 1-4 against OSU (Score:5 Normal)
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Dantonio is 1-4 against OSU so it HASN'T developed into a rivalry really. 

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:00 PM | And the 1 of the 1-4 was with (Score:5 Normal)
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And the 1 of the 1-4 was with the Bauserman experiment. Yeesh.

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September 29th, 2012 at 10:31 PM | Flawed logic... (Score:4 Normal)
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I wouldn't say the record in recent games between two teams determines whether a matchup is turning into a rivalry or not.  It's all about the budding history of higher than usual passion exhibited before, during and after the game that's caused by the disdain and hesistant respect the teams have for each other, among other things.

With the logic you're putting forward, does that mean our rivalries with OSU, MSU and ND are becoming less of a rivalry because they've been more one-sided recently?  Now I know our rivalries I mentioned are in a whole other class of rivalry than whatever OSU/MSU may be, but the fact of the matter is, IMHO, the record means very little in matters like this.

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September 29th, 2012 at 11:39 PM | I thought there wasn't really (Score:1 Flamebait)
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I thought there wasn't really a rivalry between MSU and Michigan.  Or at least not in Michigan fans' minds. 

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September 30th, 2012 at 12:00 AM | I see what you did there. (Score:2 Normal)
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Or tried to do there.

Historically, there was never a true rivalry with the Little Brother and the numbers bear this out easily. For example, your rival would win about half the time, would win championships, would compete nationally for championships, would be at your level in the public conciousness.

Now, Sparty has, to their credit, won 4 times in a row, but if you take the long view it's not truly a rivalry (not in the way that Ohio is Michigan's rival). Sparty doesn't win football championshis, is not any sort of national factor, is not at Michigan's level in the public conciousness. It is what it is.

Little brother can have a brief period of success but given recruiting trending with Michigan/Ohio/ND in the midwest, Hoke manball in Michigan and the departure of K. Cousins things will revert sooner than later and the new boss...same as the old one.

Rivarly speaks to some level of equal stature...Sparty will never achieve that.

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September 30th, 2012 at 12:32 AM | I dunno.  I think the (Score:2)
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I dunno.  I think the Michigan fan as described by UW exists more in the heads of Sparties looking for a reason to hate, than in real life.  Not totally, but more so.  No, they're not the same as Ohio, but then, rivalries aren't necessarily defined by that.  I don't have any problem saying I want to beat the hell out of them every year; it's not like Sparty is Illinois.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

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September 30th, 2012 at 2:03 PM | hmmmmm... (Score:3 Normal)
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You go walk in a park once a year...you step in some dog crap...you wipe it off. Is the dog crap your rival? or is it just an annual inconvenience that some years is harder to wipe off than others?

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:10 PM | Then we should exchage (Score:2 Normal)
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Then we should exchage practice tapes of Gardner throwing the ball...

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:13 PM | The tapes we give other teams (Score:5 Normal)
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The tapes we give other teams are free of interceptions. 

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:39 PM | damn (Score:5 Normal)
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We cut half our plays out of the tape?

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 PM | TOO SOON (Score:5 Normal)
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TOO SOON

 

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Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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September 29th, 2012 at 10:17 PM | Bazinga... (Score:4 Normal)
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Bazinga...

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:20 PM | Tape exchanges? WTF? (Score:5 Normal)
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What the fuck does Dantonio think is occurring on the field on Saturday afternoons? Tea and crumpets? Seminars on your 401-K? Teamwork retreats where you fall backwards and expect the other people to catch you? Is he expecting that Meyer will tell him ahead of time what plays he's going to run, and that he'll get a reach-around from Urban in the bargain?

That might be one of the most pathetic, ridiculous whines I've ever heard from a losing coach.  It's goddamn football, not cooperative kickball at the local Bhuddhist pre-school.

I have more respect for John L. Smith than Dantonio.


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September 29th, 2012 at 8:43 PM | congratulations, you have won (Score:5 Normal)
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congratulations, you have won today's daily internets.

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September 30th, 2012 at 1:11 AM | It might surprise you, FWIW, (Score:2 Normal)
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It might surprise you, FWIW, that Dantonio wasn't the one complaining... I think the media asked him but he wouldn't comment. 

So the whole "losing coach" and "what does he think is happening" might be premature.  Sure, he is a strict guy and might complain about things but I think you went off on the wrong guy here.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:19 PM | I just ventured over to RCMB (Score:5 Normal)
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I just ventured over to RCMB (for some reason known only to the version of me that existed five minutes ago).  Honestly, what a bunch of whiny, pathetic assholes.  It's not just their coach.

Really nice showing from them today.  From the "asshole" chant during GameDay to the "he's a pussy" chant while Miller was injured on the field to possibly fielding a just-concussed player to the coaches turning around right after a loss and complaining about this stuff.

More than anything that ever happens on the field, this is what makes them Sparty.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:26 PM | I made the same mistake (Score:1)
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There are some reasonable folks over there but they are drowned out by everyone else saying f*ck off. For some reason, that statement is the national pasttime over there.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:38 PM | The problem with the MLive (Score:5 Normal)
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The problem with the MLive argument is that it ignores that MGoBlog is the most popular forum for discussing Michigan while RCMB is the most popular forum for discussing MSU.  It's true that the MLive crowd sucks and the crowd at The Only Colors is better than the RCMB crowd.  MLive and RCMB are where the outliers go, though.  Your average internet-active Michigan fan is here on MGoBlog.  Your average internet-active MSU fan is on the RCMB.

RCMB captures the essence of that fan base.

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September 29th, 2012 at 10:15 PM | Descartes' account of true (Score:2)
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Descartes' account of true and immutable essences is soooo fun to misrepresent as Triangle, therefore God. Read some Kierkegaard instead, I feel like it fits the present state of the Big Ten better.

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September 29th, 2012 at 10:49 PM | Haha, wasn't even thinking (Score:2)
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Haha, wasn't even thinking about "The Sickness Unto Death," though it is perhaps fitting in that it deals with despair. Was thinking more along the lines of SK's views on the absurd. It definitely requires a suspension reason to understand Illinois' loss to Louisiana Tech.  

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:10 PM | You are Spartan Jesus? (Score:1 Normal)
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Are you divine by the Father, or are you a mortal man?

If every fanbase has a Jesus, is this a fusion of the death and resurrection model with multiplicity of universes and periodic creation and recreation, as in the universe and gods flickering in and out of existence hundreds of thousands of times?

Was Nebraska's comeback win over freshman Braxton Miller and Joe Bausermann, their first game against Ohio in conference, the work of a Nebraska Jesus?

Thanks for your insight.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:51 PM | No class...     (Score:5 Normal)
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No class...

 

 

If Ann Arbor is a whore, why didn't you get in?

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September 30th, 2012 at 12:04 AM | hmmmmm.... (Score:5 Normal)
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Only thing makes that classier would be garbage blowing around the field.

If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone

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September 30th, 2012 at 2:11 PM | OSU crowds can be assholes, (Score:2 Normal)
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OSU crowds can be assholes, but I've never heard them cheering about a player getting hurt.  Maybe one or two dumbasses in the student section, but not in that sort of organized fashion. 

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:20 PM | Let them enjoy themselves and (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Let them enjoy themselves and get acquainted, because they're gonna be each other's rivals when Michigan moves to the Big 12 along with nebraska, wisconsin and minnesota in 2017.

/dream

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Why would you want us in the (Score:4 Normal)
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Why would you want us in the Big 12?  And you want the Game to be stopped?  

I can only hope you are not sober.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:42 PM | I want to see new teams. I (Score:-1 Trolling)
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I want to see new teams. I wanna see Michigan develop rivalries with texas, oklahoma, okie state.

We could adopt texas a&m's "saw varsitys horns off". Of course we'd have to get the down in front to get up and sway.

Hullabullo caneck caneck.

THINK ABOUT IT MAN!!!

I need more to drink.

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:34 PM | you funny (Score:2 Normal)
WFBlue
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Time is working funny again. Greg Mattison has a phonebooth time machine he sent the secondary back to Charles Woodson's childhood in; they have emerged with ZZ Top beards, children, and skills.-BC

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:34 PM | That's a really bad idea. (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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That's a really bad idea.

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:41 PM | I wish those creatures to the (Score:-1 Trolling)
Wolverine Devotee
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I wish those creatures to the northwest would just go away. They don't deserve to cross into Washtenaw County with the kind of conduct they displayed today.

Second rate school, second rate athletics, second class citizens.

 

When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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September 29th, 2012 at 10:25 PM | You can stop posting now. (Score:5 Normal)
david from wyoming
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You can stop posting now.

Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th

I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm

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September 30th, 2012 at 12:04 AM | MGoProTip:  It's OK not to (Score:5 Normal)
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MGoProTip:  It's OK not to have an opinion on absolutely everything/post in every thread/start five threads a day.  We know you're a fan, but in almost all situations, less is more.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Weird. (Score:5 Normal)
turd ferguson
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Weird.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:22 PM | Tape Exchange? (Score:2 Normal)
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WTF? This isn't high school...

Send a scout, TiVo, internet...

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:37 PM | They don't include a true all 22 (Score:3 Normal)
Michigan4Life
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Tape that Internet, tv would provide. Not the same at all

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September 29th, 2012 at 9:59 PM | but tv would show any shifts (Score:2 Normal)
HipsterCat
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but tv would show any shifts or motions and they could just piece together that with the film they recieved 

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September 29th, 2012 at 10:05 PM | They don't show (Score:5 Normal)
Michigan4Life
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The whole play i.e. coverage, routes, etc. that TV don't show you. You don't hide stuff from game tape. Urban Meyer is a scumbag

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October 7th, 2012 at 9:34 AM | Why wouldn't you just exchange with another team? (Score:0 Flamebait)
Mr. Yost
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It wasn't Ohio's first game...just exchange with another team and get all of the information you need.

It's not that fucking hard. Quit bashing Meyer like he actually did something worth whining about.

“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:23 PM | Pretty clever of OSU, and MSU (Score:3 Normal)
MGlobules
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is going to look like weak willies for complaining. Advantage Buckeyes.

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:24 PM | Good. it would be nice if our (Score:1 Normal)
no joke its hoke
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Good. it would be nice if our rivals had another rival besides us. we play 3(for now) rivals every year.

Vice.com

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:30 PM | Leave it to Sparty to always (Score:2 Normal)
russale2012
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Leave it to Sparty to always be whining and bitching about something. Just like a little brother.

It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:34 PM | Too bad they won't be playing (Score:5 Normal)
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Too bad they won't be playing each other again until 2015.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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September 29th, 2012 at 8:42 PM | Isn't the point of having (Score:3 Normal)
NFG
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Isn't the point of having assistants, coordinators and a half time provide you the assets to adjust to motions and shifts???



After this thread, I'm drinking.

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