October 14th, 2012 at 12:17 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:21 AM ^
Their defense was top 20 last year. It was their offense that sucked.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:17 AM ^
the defense is fine, it's the refs that have been screwing them!
October 14th, 2012 at 3:18 AM ^
No, the defense has been screwing themselves. The refs are just a numb hand to make it feel better.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:48 AM ^
outside your username. That was straight up funny.
Also, do you think Fickell is in danger of losing his job? You mention cleaning house farther down the thread and I can't help but think he'd be the first one to go.
October 14th, 2012 at 11:21 AM ^
You'd be correct. Urban has vowed to be "more involved in defense" this week, which spells bad news for all the coaches on that side of the ball
October 14th, 2012 at 12:22 PM ^
Yeah, I think Fickell is in the hot seat. Meyer said last night that Meyer needs to get "more involved" with the defense and "find out" what's going wrong. I can't imagine that bodes well for Fickell's continued employment. On the one hand, I feel bad for Fickell - he fell on a grenade for Ohio State last season and I would like to see him leave on his own terms, preferably to go be a head coach somewhere. On the other hand, 49 points to F***ING INDIANA?!?
October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 PM ^
that Indiana is actually one of the better teams in the B1G. I don't know how on Earth they've improved, but their performance the last two weeks indicates that they've managed it somehow.
October 14th, 2012 at 1:12 PM ^
Or maybe Ohio and MSU just aren't that good. Cal, UAB and Nebraska moved the ball regularly on Ohio as well, and Sparty is currently 4-3 with the toughest part of its schedule still to come.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:20 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:22 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^
Bigger steaming pile of shit...osu's defense or valverde's pitching?
October 14th, 2012 at 12:31 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 1:31 AM ^
Valverde's ERA in his last two outings is 47.25.
In its last two, tOSU gave up an average of 43.50 ppg.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:21 AM ^
To be fair, 7 of Indiana's points came on a pick-6. Regardless, 42 points to Indiana is still unacceptable. There need to be some serious improvements on that side of the ball soon or else Urban needs to clean house this winter.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:16 AM ^
Um, no. Did you watch the game? All 49 points came from the IU offense. The only INT thrown was in the endzone for a touchback. Although you could argue about the short field given to IU do to a punt block, OSU was the one that got a non-offensive TD with their punt block into the endzone.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:11 PM ^
Yeah, you're right. No idea what the hell I was thinking. I drank a bit last night.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:13 PM ^
Eh, don't worry about it. This fanbase went through quite a few of those after a few defensive performances a few years ago...
October 14th, 2012 at 1:28 AM ^
Can officially confirm, Valverde.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:23 AM ^
Clearly too many players are getting their priorities wrong and have been devoting their time and energies to skool and not football. They forget they "ain't there to play skool, but football." No doubt this will be a teaching point this week.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:43 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:25 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:35 AM ^
They just won a shoot out against Indiana with an offense that relies far too much on the performance of their extremely athletic dual threat QB saddled with a defense that struggles with the fundamentals. Next you'll be telling me that they hired a new hot shot head coach known for his high powered spread offensive schemes.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:37 AM ^
I'm not seeing the connection you're trying to make here...
October 14th, 2012 at 12:39 AM ^
I guess what I'm saying is that the spread will never work in the Big10.
October 14th, 2012 at 10:20 AM ^
Do you really think putting Oregon in the B1G would not work out for them? Saying the spread won't work is wishful thinking. One can have a good defense and a spread offense. In RR's last year at WV, they had a top-5 nationally D.
October 14th, 2012 at 3:14 AM ^
Except they're 7-0.
October 14th, 2012 at 7:06 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:29 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:30 AM ^
OSU's defense has looked bad this year. But I never expected Indiana to score 49 points on them.
Indiana State's defense held the Hoosiers to 24 points. Northwestern's crappy defense held the Hoosiers to 29 points. But OSU gives up 49 to them. Impressive.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:31 AM ^
For all of last season, the Buckeye pass defense allowed teams to go 214 for 352 for 2,366 total yards, which amounts to an average of 182 yards per game, 6.7 yards per attempt and 11.0 yards per completion. This was 4th in the conference. Last year's rushing defense in Columbus allowed 479 carries for 1,840 yards, good for 3.8 yards per attempt and 5th in the Big Ten.
After six games (i.e., excluding today's performance for the moment), the passing defense has allowed teams to be 164 for 246 for 1,592 yards already, good for 265 yards per game on average and 11th in the Big Ten. The rushing defense has not lost a lot of ground really, for after six games, they have allowed 181 carries for 727 yards, which is 3.9 yards per carry and currently 6th in the conference.
Of course, once tonight's stats are officially added, some of this may change. Indiana managed to get 352 yards in the air and 129 on the ground, after all.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:33 AM ^
FWIW, Indiana won't go to a bowl or anything but they're a legit team this year. They've been a lot more competitive than one would expect, especially after losing their starting QB for the year.
But then, 49 points?
October 14th, 2012 at 12:40 AM ^
Competitive, yes. But this is a team who still barely beat Indiana State and lost at home to Ball State.
OSU giving up 49 points to them is a joke.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:43 AM ^
I don't think a team that doesn't go to a bowl can be "legit" in this day and age of 6-6 bowl teams who can play MAC teams, a service academy and Indiana State in the non-conference.
They will probably be favored in a single Big Ten game, over the steaming pile of crap that is Illinois. 1-7 in conference is not a legit team, even if they are a little feisty.
October 14th, 2012 at 2:11 AM ^
equates to them being the best Indiana football team in more than a decade
October 14th, 2012 at 12:36 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:37 AM ^
When I saw the Ohio score, I was thinking the same thing as the OP: sorta. Instead, though, I just decided to believe that Ohio does have the one "fatal flaw" that can keep them from going undefeated after all.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:42 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 12:47 AM ^
Yes, but MSU blows.
October 14th, 2012 at 12:46 AM ^
Most entertaining CFB game of 2012 so far.October 14th, 2012 at 12:52 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 1:12 AM ^
the most IU has scored against ohio?
October 14th, 2012 at 1:24 AM ^
Yes. In 1988, (John Cooper's first season) Indiana beat OSU 41-7. Before today, that was the most points they had ever scored on the bucks.
The previous year, IU beat OSU at the shoe 31-10.
IU scored 31 against OSU in 1989 as well in a 35-31 loss. Those were three highest scoring games for them.
October 14th, 2012 at 2:09 AM ^
After the IU loss Earl Bruce called it something like the "darkest day in Ohio State history". He was told he would be fired the Monday before the Michigan game after 3 straight losses to Iowa, Wisconsin and MSU. His players rallied around him and the snuck out of AA with a pretty improbable win.....although Michigan wasn't that great that year either.
The actual game that decided the Big Ten title that year was Indiana at MSU on Nov 14, State won going away 27-3. I remember because I was there and it was damn cold and I wasn't dressed properly.
State's D that year gave up something like 4 TD's in Big Ten play. The win over IU clinched the Rose Bowl trip, the following weeks win over hapless Wisconsin gave MSU its first outright Big Ten title in like 21 years or something. Which I believe is now their only outright title in over 45 years.
1987 game was also the last time and only time since the 1960's that Michigan lost to Indiana, 14-10 down in Bloomington. The game was played in a steady rain that turned to a driving rain and when the teams switched sides to start the 4th quarter the wind changed directions back into Michigan's face. I believe Frank Beckmen still believes it was some of the worst weather he's ever seen Michigan play in.
Hard to believe it was 25 years ago
October 14th, 2012 at 1:26 AM ^
October 14th, 2012 at 1:29 AM ^