August 21st, 2020 at 6:31 AM ^
Also, the student run publication breaking the story is The Vanderbilt Hustler...
August 21st, 2020 at 7:21 AM ^
Hustler? James Franklin did coach there.
August 21st, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
As an alum, I can confirm the Hustler is a great rag. I went to school with Lee Jenkins and Tyler Kepner, and Neil Vigdor (who also writes for the NYT now) was in a few of my Poli sci classes as well.
August 21st, 2020 at 6:42 AM ^
No way! I don't believe it haha.
August 21st, 2020 at 7:11 AM ^
And so what if there was a game tomorrow? This is how the season isn’t going to work.
August 21st, 2020 at 12:26 PM ^
To be fair, given this is Vandy, the outcome wouldn't be any different whether they show up or not.
August 21st, 2020 at 12:33 PM ^
What if they found out right after a game. That's the real reason why we can't play.
August 21st, 2020 at 7:11 AM ^
And so what if there was a game tomorrow? This is how the season isn’t going to work.
August 21st, 2020 at 7:11 AM ^
And so what if there was a game tomorrow? This is how the season isn’t going to work.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:15 AM ^
Is your triple post asking what if there was a triple header tomorrow? :) That would be nutso. But watch, in a month from now, that'll be the SEC's plan. "OK guys, we got a bunch of positives so we're just going to get the whole season in during one weekend of mayhem like a youth soccer tournament".
August 21st, 2020 at 7:26 AM ^
And so what if there was a game tomorrow? This is how the season isn’t going to work.
August 21st, 2020 at 7:50 AM ^
Haha, nice one. This site sucks for posting. Page looked stuck so hit save again and voila, double post. Went to edit and then voila, triple post. My bad.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:09 AM ^
It's happened to me too.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:17 AM ^
# Me Too
August 21st, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
Whaaat? THIS site?!
August 21st, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
I disagree its a great site for posting. When the site is at peak performance 25% of the features actually work.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:37 AM ^
Some of the best things in life are free.
August 21st, 2020 at 1:08 PM ^
A “delete post” feature might be nice in the future for double/triple posts. I post fairly often from a place with poor service, and the screen will freeze or refresh when I hit save and I get double posts that way.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:19 AM ^
Just know this won’t happen at Florida or Bama or LSU. It can’t because their ability to keep players from getting it, or at least anyone better than third string, is superior to everyone else’s. It’s a secret and they’re not telling how they’re doing it. It’s possible that a starting QB gets it right after a game that happens to be right before an off week followed by a cupcake. But that’s how they roll.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^
They probably follow the strategy that if you don’t test you don’t have cases. Then none of their team has to miss a game.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
They're shooting hydroxy, snorting bleach, sleeping on oleander, and saying bedtime prayers so the Covid hoax stays away...
August 21st, 2020 at 11:05 AM ^
I can see rival teams sending someone to infect players a week before a big game to make sure they won't play. I know that is reprehensible, but it is the SEC.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:07 AM ^
They have been following the MyPillow guy's guidelines.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:32 AM ^
Practice canceled but the house party is on
August 21st, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^
The amount of damn near celebration occurring on this site when schools or sports teams trying to operate have cases is getting gross.
August 21st, 2020 at 9:13 AM ^
I'm not sure celebration is the right word.
I would say morbid curiosity... like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
August 21st, 2020 at 9:45 AM ^
Reading through a lot of the comments on the various threads about this it feels like many people are well over the morbid curiosity line in their reactions to this
August 21st, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^
Since you've read through a lot of comments, how about you share a few of them that you think are "celebrations" so we all know what you're talking about.
That shouldn't be too hard, right?
August 21st, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^
Hey Shop Smart, I guess subtext does not exist and someone has to write out, “I am happy that cases are happening in places that are trying to reopen” for you to notice a theme. Or you could just look up the thread and find the reaction to this story that was, “No way! I don't believe it haha.”
By the way, shouldn’t you be out telling more parents that the psychological challenges their kids are having related to school closures are fake and that they are inventing fears and complaining? How about implying that the depression they see in their child is not real because they did not provide you with medical documentation to back it up? I mean if you want to go full asshole you could then imply that parents talking about these issues must be doing a bad job because your friends (i.e. the good and worthy people like yourself) have worked out strategies to keep their kids active and social. I mean only shitty parents would have a depressed child.
Quick, go cry to the mods because someone pointed out what an asshole you are.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^
I don’t see how people reacting like “yeah we’ve said this was going to happen. It isn’t surprising at all. This is why a season isn’t viable. It’s going to continue like this.” Is “celebrating.”
Nobody is happy this is happening. But it’s increasingly obvious that it is going to continue happening at more and more schools yet they want to keep delaying the inevitable. So yeah, we’re going to point out the incompetence of people in charge.
August 21st, 2020 at 12:13 PM ^
So you're admitting that you can't find one specific example and had to completely misread what someone wrote in the thread?
Cool.
As for the rest, if any parent thinks their child is suffering with depression, they should immediately take that child to see a doctor. Because parents are generally not qualified to treat depression, unlike doctors.
I'd like to add that if working the refs gets even one conspiracy theorist deplatformed, it is absolutely fucking worth it.
August 21st, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
Here is what someone wrote:
“Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the known effects on my family. To name just a few:
- · explosive tantrums on the part of my youngest as she struggles to focus on worksheets without getting her sensory needs met
- · depression in my oldest who was finally finding her way socially but is now withdrawn
- · tension in my marriage as both parents to try to cope with support our children while meeting the demand on our career
I did not mean literally locked in the house. We get outside. The social isolation has a real impact - not to mention the paranoia associated with the idea that if you get anywhere near someone, you are going to catch a horrible disease.
Every decision life bears risks. We make trades in our daily choices. Whether sending our kids to school is no different. When I compare the risk of my children catching, and even transmitting the disease, to these other known effects, the choice is clear.”
Here was your response:
“Do you think the tantrums only happen because your youngest isn't in school? As an educator, I can guarantee you that isn't something caused by being at home. Elementary teachers deal with tantrums on a daily basis.
If your youngest is depressed, I would assume that the doctor that diagnosed that depression offered some advice. How's that working?
I still don't get this social isolation claim so many are making. As a caregiver for elderly parents, I have to be very careful to avoid close contact with others, yet I'm still very able to be social. Both in person and electronically. The majority of my friends are in the same position you are, but instead of inventing fears and complaining they've worked out strategies to keep their kids active and social.”
August 21st, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Yep. Good job with the copy pasta.
Now go do it for all of these examples of people celebrating the season being stopped.
If you can't, how about you just stop with your nonsense?
August 21st, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^
LMAO @ you, Ndscott! Can't prove it, so now it's "subtext." That's right up there with "People say..." SMH
August 21st, 2020 at 10:49 AM ^
oh yeah, i'm jumping for fucking joy watching all the small businesses in my neighborhood close down!
August 21st, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^
I'm really bothered that schools continue to expose kids to a disease that could have long-term health consequences all in the name of making millions of dollars off their unpaid labor. I've said this elsewhere, but we keep throwing different kinds of people at this disease, from old people, athletes, kids, to Floridians, and keep thinking the results will be different. The fact colleges brought students back this year is insane, and yet conferences like the ACC, SEC, Big 12 gloated about how they're just going forward with their seasons while the Big 10 and Pac 12 cancelled theirs. So yes, when these completely predictable results keep happening it's worth pointing them out.
August 21st, 2020 at 9:56 AM ^
I think bringing the students back to live on campus is a far lager issue than playing football. The football teams are tested regularly and have strong safety protocols enforced. There is a pretty compelling argument to be made that players are at significantly more risk of catching the virus away from their teams than with them. Unless we think that without a football season most players will go home and self isolate for the year but that’s not realistic.
Regarding the heart issue how does not playing games help protect against that? These are division one athletes. Are we telling them not to continue training and exercising? Would they do this even if we did? The way to protect against the heart issue is aggressive screening for the problem.
August 21st, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^
Except that football are students, too. Hard to justify having students involved in just this one extracurricular activity allowed to return to campus when others are not.
August 21st, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^
Extracurricular? This isn't the chess club.
August 21st, 2020 at 3:08 PM ^
Correct, yet sports are just one type extracurricular (meaning outside-of-class) activities. You might be able to receive a school-sponsored scholarship for some extracurriculars, including some that are not sports, but it is still secondary status to actual classes.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:36 AM ^
I think bringing students back to campus is equally dumb but I can accept that in certain circumstances you may have to; I do think UM's response to students coming back is flawed and that can be something to point out. Nobody HAS to play football, though. And I'm fairly certain that many of the other schools with similar breakouts have equally-stringent testing systems in place. But once you bring human beings back in any capacity, spreading is going to occur. And as we've seen innumerable times, when people start congregating in large groups infection rates go up. So yes, if there are fewer athletes mixing with people their risk, like everyone else's, goes down. The fact that across college football more of them started testing positive once they got back onto campus and started working out is a pretty strong argument that, in fact, they weren't at some heightened risk of contracting it away from the teams.
As for the heart issue, the best way to protect against it is to not get sick with COVID-19. If they're going to be on campus and they want to work out nobody can stop them, and it is much easier to limit workout size, stagger attendance, and clean between sessions with smaller groups.
I'm not going to re-litigate for the hundredth time how serious this virus is. Yes, it will likely not kill or even permanently injure the vast majority of college athletes. At the same time, nobody wants to be one of the few who do gets seriously ill, especially when the best option right now is to simply not play football for some number of months until treatment options are in place.
August 21st, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
I think bringing college kids back on campus is the best thing you can do. It's best they get the Covid away from their parents, who are much more likely to have negative outcomes than their children.
August 21st, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^
It also doesn't help when some of the "football at all costs" crowd throws ridicule at the conferences that decided to shutdown their seasons.
August 21st, 2020 at 11:43 AM ^
I wonder if he’ll be spouting the same message in 4-5 years when Miss State and Ole Miss are hit with class action lawsuits by former players who were forced to end their pro career after being on the receiving end of long term heart and lung damage as a direct result of getting COVID while still playing at their respective colleges.
August 21st, 2020 at 10:47 AM ^
Some folks, for various reasons, are highly personally invested in being proven right on this one.
August 21st, 2020 at 3:55 PM ^
Many of us can’t believe how certain people are completely shut off from logic and evidence. As a result, there is an “I told you so” element that, I think, is meant to persuade. “Now do you believe me that this wasn’t a liberal conspiracy? Now do you believe me that actions have consequences in the real world?” It doesn’t do any good, of course. Anyone who thinks liberals created the coronavirus, or are at least using it, to damage the president or to get chips planted in people’s heads or whatever else Sean Hannity and Q are telling them can’t be persuaded by logic. But the natural tendency to try to rub it in their faces with the hope that they will finally come back to the real world is understandable.
August 21st, 2020 at 8:12 PM ^
There are a good number of people who are not Trump loving conspiracy theorist who think there is a way supported by the science to play football and reopen schools (particularly in areas with low positivity rates). Many people who hold this view are Democrats.
August 22nd, 2020 at 12:56 PM ^
I think its more like people can't help but say "I told you so" to the idiots that refuse to accept that playing football in the middle of a pandemic is not a great idea.