MSU and the right to talk smack: contrarian viewpoint

Consecutive posts RE: MSU?? Is this really necessary with UConn in 2 days??

and then create a new thread dedicated to discussing MSU?

Smack talking is all about context.

If an MSU fan were to make a conjecture that they currently have a better program than ours, I would disagree, but a case could be made.

However, if that same fan were to claim that they "own" the series, instate recruiting, or anything of the like and will continue to do so, and they will be better than us for every year onward, they are an idiot.

Nice try.

Fuck Sparty.

There is a difference between the current state of the program and the program's place in history.  Our program and its traditions are far superior to MSU's and I think, as rivals, we should flaunt that.  Sure, they've beaten us the past two years and they will rightfully flaunt that.  This is what rivals do.

Obviously as a program, Michigan has much higher goals than MSU. This is obvious since you never saw us put up billboards after a win against MSU, especially if they were only 3-9. And up until a few years ago, most Michigan fans were fine with rooting for MSU even though they knew that MSU fans would get more joy of a Michigan loss (not against them) than a win for their team.  I think most here are annoyed that State has been puffing out their chest soo much in the last 2 years after accomplishing little, that we are ready to throw them backin into their spot in the corner. Obviously we have, and always will, have bigger targets ahead (OSU, Big ten titles, MNC's), but this year I will probably stoop a little to their level and take great glee in seeing them fail against us.

I also don't think there is any harm in us giving it back to them a little. Yes, they beat us the last 2 years (barely) so they have earned something I guess. But a 7-3 record over the last decade can still be used to put them in their corner until Oct 9th.  Again, I don't fully understand what it is you are asking/telling us.

As soon as you get them too, also.

Hey you guys, to Sparty we are their osu. We just don't view it that way, we must not have gotten the memo.

Normally I keep to saying things about MSU that are factual and easy to back up: Inferior academics, smells bad, school for ugly people, etc.

Also their parties aren't even that good. $5 for a cup of Popov and Natty ice? No thanks, Sparty.

I don't totally get the points of this post, but we own MSU. So what if they've won 2 in a row for them first time in 40 years? They will always be our little brother.

We can talk all we want, but if our favorite team can't back it up on the field . . . that's really all that matters.

The "LOL Sparty" threads get old sometimes...

Being better than Michigan in the past two years doesn't put MSU in rare company.  Pretty much everybody other than Indiana has been better than us in the Big Ten.  The difference is that MSU thinks that beating us means that they have accomplished some great feat, while others just enjoy taking advantage of our down years.

Honestly, though, I cannot explain the MSU hype for this year.  They seem to be in a similar position as we are (strong offense, questionable defense, some key players lost but many returning), yet while we are considered a borderline bowl qualifier, they are constantly receiving hype as a darkhorse candidate to win the Big Ten.  I just don't get it.

To say that MSU is ruling the series right now is a stretch.  They won 2 years in a row - so what?  Let's not forget happened the past several years before then; it's just a matter of time before we're doing that again.

And 6 wins last season even for Sparty was disappointing for them - they should've done better.  Guess they're doomed for mediocrity.

Are you talking about actually talking shit to a Spartan fan to his face, or just making fun of them on the internet?  I agree that the former is just dumb, but it's not because we lost last year - it's just a tacky thing to do in general.  But as for posting on the internet, who cares?  Especially on a Michigan blog.  If they want to mock us on their board, hey, I don't care.  Just don't troll here.

Hmmmm, telling fans of opposing teams to not talk smack about each other. While it seems to be fundamentally opposed to what being a fan is all about, I think you might just be on to something...

Hey, I didn't know we were playing MSU to start the season.  I thought it was some team out East, but obviously I am wrong, what with the MSU posts popping up all the time. 

/s

I'll agree to stop talking smack about MSU provided they stop maintaining a list of players RR "ran off" that includes people like Lloyd Carr, Bill Martin, Antonio Bass, and Donovan Warren.

is we should try to refrain from talking smack until we beat MSU under Rich Rod.  Sure, we have owned the series over the long haul but our current regime has not beaten them yet.  I hate Sparty as much as the next guy, but I agree with Nate in that it is better to refrain from smack talk until we drop the hammer to the tune of 60-24 this season.

... they rule this series right now.

Are you baked? UM loses to MSU about 2-3 times per decade and they are about on track with that. And we lost last year's game in overtime in East Lansing using a team that did not even qualify for a bowl game. Except for occasionally snagging a in-state recruit that we actually do want, MSU is irrelevant.

...gets more mileage out of less victories than MSU. 

To put it another way, MSU has exceeded their smack/performance ratio.