Michigan now #16 in overall recruiting ranking
For those who didn't know (I didn't), 247 now provides 3 team recruiting measures:
1. HS recruiting class
2. Transfer class, and
3. Combined recruiting and transfer rank.
Michigan ranks 20th in recruiting class, with 19 recruits, but now ranks 1st in transfer class, with 3 recruits, including yesterday's addition of Myles Hinton. This yields an overall ranking of 16.
This is 3rd in combined ranking in the B1G behind OSU -- down to 7th with the loss of Raiola-- and #13 PSU. We are the Jeffersons -- Movin' On Up!
December 18th, 2022 at 1:52 PM ^
to a deluxe apartment in the sky
December 18th, 2022 at 1:56 PM ^
We finally got a piece of the pie
December 18th, 2022 at 2:10 PM ^
Slightly changing the metaphorical perspective:
Me, oh, my, love that country pie.
{EDIT: I'm glad someone got the reference.)
December 18th, 2022 at 1:54 PM ^
Interesting. I was not aware of the new combined ranking system. Thanks for posting. The 2023 transfer class is promising, I particularly like the depth the LB from NE creates.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:10 PM ^
Me too but it makes sense for rankings to combine the incoming players.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:33 PM ^
The transfer component of the combine rankings is underweighted since these transfers are experienced proven players.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:57 PM ^
On the other hand, they have fewer seasons of eligibility than HS recruits. I think the weighting will be a work in progress, but it does make sense to consider all of the incoming talent (HS + transfer) in order to assess a team's overall strength. Maybe using some modifier based on how many seasons left would be instructive.
December 18th, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
On the third hand, the HS recruits might transfer out, too, which reduces their value.
My take on the correct weighting: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
December 18th, 2022 at 4:23 PM ^
How are they weighting the two components?
December 18th, 2022 at 5:08 PM ^
Ask Godot.
[EDIT: Weighting for Godot?]
December 18th, 2022 at 1:57 PM ^
Idk where else to put this but 247 moved OL commit Nathan Efobi from a 85 to 89, so he's now a borderline 4* on 247 and composite 4*
December 18th, 2022 at 4:47 PM ^
Also there is smoke that Michigan could be getting a flip of Jeremiyah Love, 4⭐️ RB committed to the Domers.
December 18th, 2022 at 1:58 PM ^
Josiah Stewart just committed.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:01 PM ^
I feel that, while star ratings certainly aren't insignificant by any means, I prefer our coaches player evaluations over recruiting services. #16 according to 247, but far better, I think, according to the pros.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:03 PM ^
I have no idea if Santa has done anything yet. But, the successful transfer of freshman kid from NEB is good. I was listening to that kid's video on Sam's show earlier in the week and the kid sounds like a great fit for us. He overcame so much in his life.
Get that CB from Illinois and/or top CB from portal and this class will be in the range of our regular recruiting class. Coaches are going to close strong.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^
Ho Ho Ho!
December 18th, 2022 at 2:29 PM ^
Santa's been busy in his workshop!
December 18th, 2022 at 2:04 PM ^
Yeah with the commitment of Stewart and Efobi going to 4* status, we now have 11 four stars. Not bad for our “worst class ever”.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:56 PM ^
It is not over yet… Harbor day in February could be the cherry on top
December 18th, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^
With end Steward now added to transfer class, it arguably represents more than twice as many players as the 2023 recruiting class that will actually be in the two-deep next year (and about even for the two-deep the year after next).
Certainly a more complicated process than in years past. Smaller high school recruiting classes may be the smarter strategic move over the long-term.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^
While I think everyone has a preference for players to pick Michigan coming out of high school you have to love the potential of the portal. You also have to think that 4 plug and play starter quality players from the portal has a much higher floor than four similar but unproven players coming out of high school. I hope we can keep everyone happy.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:18 PM ^
I like both out of high school and the portal. What you don’t want to do is to scare off your top recruits and your two deep and future talent already on the team. As long as we can balance that, I’m all for it. It seems like we are really only addressing areas of depth concerns with the portal though. I’m impressed so far.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:43 PM ^
Can’t scare off top recruits if you ain’t got ‘em!
December 18th, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
Zing?
December 18th, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^
Spot on! The rankings don't really measure the full spectrum of roster construction. It's really great to see us building roster depth across position groups. It's also great to see the willingness to rotate players at all/most position groups.
Football is a game of attrition, and we sure seem much better positioned to withstand losses than even a few weeks ago.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:16 PM ^
Raiola is a '24 recruit. How does that effect their '23 class?
December 18th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
correct he’s a 2024 kid.
December 18th, 2022 at 3:07 PM ^
My bad. I was trying to figure out why OSU had dropped and made a bad assumption. (Recency bias.)
December 18th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Season/2023-Football/Commits/
Open sourced. hitting on cruits , portal travelers.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^
I think the combined should be a lot higher than 16th. We have four likely starters (at worst, the LB will be in the mix to play). Tis is the beauty if the portal that it rewards teams that excel. We've lost Cade, Erick, and Rooks and got much better in return.
Plus, no defections except for Poggi from the staff.
Focus on TCU now, gentlemen of the greatest CFB program ever!
December 18th, 2022 at 3:14 PM ^
Think the weird thing with the combined rankings is years of impact and if/how you weigh that. They all seem to be various levels of good, to really good at positions of need but how do you weigh one year of Henderson vs. potentially three of Hausmann? Ultimately meaningless of course when I think they're all going to play a role in winning at a high level for whatever time they do see the field.
December 18th, 2022 at 9:07 PM ^
The rankings are a snapshot of your team/recruiting class at that time, there’s nothing baked into a high school recruits rating or effect on class rankings based on how long they will be there. So I don’t think it really matters. Especially considering anyone who leaves for whatever reason will likely be replaced by another guy who then factors into the rankings.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:25 PM ^
Anyone know if UM is pursuing Fentrell Cypress? Read 2 weeks ago from Wiltfong on 247 that UM and ND headlined his transfer options but haven’t seen anything since. Would like to see UM grab a corner to solidify the position of Green and Turner bounce.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:26 PM ^
That’s definitely an area I’d love to see us push at in the portal. Always need depth there.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^
Please go find MAIZEN, I truly miss,"him, her, or she, or them!"
December 18th, 2022 at 2:41 PM ^
OP's user name is just right for this post.
December 18th, 2022 at 3:13 PM ^
Amen to that.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^
It makes no sense that the transfer ranking is underweighted compared to the HS recruiting ranking. Transfers are proven collegiate commodities. HS recruits are not. Seems like the transfer ranking should carry more weight.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:45 PM ^
It will take time for recruiting sites to accept this. Give them space and unconditional love
December 18th, 2022 at 2:56 PM ^
I guess the advantage that HS recruits have over transfers is years of eligibility. But in the vast majority of cases the first year of a HS recruit's time on the team is burned via redshirt or limited PT. So, although it's not technically a "burned" year, it's still likely going to be a low impact year as it relates to the success of the team.
December 18th, 2022 at 3:16 PM ^
If you'll notice, 247 provides their High School rating AND their revised transfer rating, which is what they use to compute the rankings. 3 of our 4 transfers have significantly increased their rating, while Hinton's has declined substantially.
December 18th, 2022 at 3:20 PM ^
In a little bit of defense of Myles Hinton, 247 individually (and I think they're the most trustworthy) had him down to a 92 at the end of the cycle and he's down to 90 now so not some awful slide.
December 18th, 2022 at 2:48 PM ^
Hello recruits. We are the number two team in the nation. We are in the College Football Playoff in back-to-back seasons. We send the fifth most players to the NFL. We have the largest alumni base in the country. We are a top academic university.
(Transfer players get it)
December 18th, 2022 at 3:00 PM ^
Magnum, and - Michigan has a lot of staff with NFL experience. I don’t know if that would mean anything to prospects or players in the portal.
December 18th, 2022 at 3:09 PM ^
User name fits.
December 18th, 2022 at 4:01 PM ^
How we always finish behind Frames in recruiting is beyond me. At least we bludgeon them where it matters.
December 18th, 2022 at 4:24 PM ^
He shines brightest on recruiting visits Harbaugh and staff shine brightest during the games. Hoke out recruited Dantonio every year I believe.
December 18th, 2022 at 4:34 PM ^
DanTeenie recruited steroids better than anybody.
December 18th, 2022 at 4:33 PM ^
Penn State has a considerable advantage in recruiting. Mostly because Penn State is still a powerhouse on the east coast. They are also the only premier football school in the tenth-largest state. Sorry Pitt, you're not premier. This map shows why Frames does so well with recruiting, he may be an average at best gameday coach, but he's a hell of a recruiter with plenty of talent within driving distance.
