Michigan Favored by 16 Over Purdue; All the Other Odds
November 27th, 2022 at 8:06 PM ^
I’m a huge USC fan come Friday. Anything to send OSU to a game they don’t wanna be in and feel they’re above.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:26 PM ^
After what SC has done to Michigan in the Rose Bowl in past years, especially being awarded a touchdown when they didn't score and winning a game a result, I am real surprised you are any kind of fan of SC. Perhaps you are too young to realize. To hell with both of those programs. I would love to see either one get annihilated by whomever they play if either actually qualifies for the playoff.
To soothe your curiosity, just go look up the Charles White "phantom touchdown." SC is one of the few programs that actually has beaten M more than lost.
When disgusting SC played "to hell with" Notre Dame yesterday, all I cared about was how either team's victory would negatively affect Michigan's future. And their school fight song is absurd (growing up in Southern California I have heard it too many times; much like OSU and MSU).
November 27th, 2022 at 10:31 PM ^
USC has endured a decade+ of irrelevance. I hated them with a passion during the Carroll era, but that might as well be ancient history. The fact that Michigan used to play them occasionally and often came up short is even ancient-er history. They are not a rival. They're decidedly not Ohio State, a program that until approximately 1 year ago was dominating Michigan and achieving its highest degree of program success ever. In a perfect world, neither USC nor Ohio State would make the CFP. As it stands, USC is the best chance to keep Ohio State out. So I don't mind rooting for them for now. Anything to crush the Buckeyes' hopes.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:40 PM ^
On the new episode of The Audible podcast with Feldman and Mandel today, Stew suggested that the Rose Bowl might actually invite Penn State rather than OSU (assuming USC gets the 4th CFP spot). He said that OSU fans are disgusted and have no interest in traveling across the country for a bowl game that they played in last year and probably won't win again this year. By contrast, he suggested that PSU fans would travel in hordes. Makes sense to me!
November 27th, 2022 at 9:14 PM ^
Can they do that? I guess so. From the Rose Bowl's official site:
Should a team from the Big Ten or Pac-12 be selected to play in the College Football Playoff, the Tournament of Roses will traditionally select the next-highest CFP-ranked team from that conference.
https://tournamentofroses.com/2022-rose-bowl-game-returns-to-traditional-format/
So "traditionally", The Rose Bowl would select Ohio State. But the wording does seem to leave some wiggle room.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:16 PM ^
Yes they can--the wording gives them enough wiggle room to choose a team other than the next highest ranked. Can't recall if they've exercised that right in the past (I think they have?) but they are definitely allowed to do so.
November 27th, 2022 at 10:23 PM ^
My memory is short but when Dennis Franklin was injured the Big 10 commish sent OSU back in the day? One hell of a wiggle.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:07 PM ^
If you click on the link, you then have to click on the Week 14 games to see all the odds.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^
Go USC. I want Washington to go the Rose Bowl and Penix to have his way with OSU.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:54 PM ^
^^^^
agreed!
November 27th, 2022 at 9:02 PM ^
The over-under will be 100. Take the over.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:08 PM ^
Day will finally hang 100... and lose.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^
Need TCU USC and Michigan to win! Shut out the bucks!
November 27th, 2022 at 8:49 PM ^
OSU is out. Alabama will get in before OSU does.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:11 PM ^
I wish you were right but I'm not so sure OSU is definitely out. Georgia and Michigan are in no matter what. But TCU and USC both losing would open up arguments in OSU's favor, even after they let Bama in.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:26 PM ^
Unless TCU lose by 3 scores, I think they are in. They are playing in a conference championship while Day is wondering at home where is the fourth base.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:36 PM ^
TCU is in even with a loss.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:47 PM ^
I’d rather have TCU win and keep them at 3 although beating USC at 3 would be much sweeter. Fuck usc and their bandwagon fans.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^
TCU may have a struggle. KState has looked really good for the most part this year, and in a neutral site ... who knows?
(And Utah did beat USC earlier this year, so that could well be a battle as well).
November 27th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
Even if tcu loses, as long as it is competitive, they will be in in my opinion. I would prefer to play Tcu as Caleb Williams is a problem even though tcu seems like a more well rounded team.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:16 PM ^
USC’s offense is not as terrifying as OSU’s. And we know how Michigan handled that.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:05 PM ^
Caleb Williams is that guy. Stroud is soft.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:34 PM ^
I don't see Stroud as "soft" at all. I actually think he's a hell of a quarterback and a good kid. That pass he made to Stover was amazing ... and only a phenomenal play by Sainristil kept it from being a TD. Yeah, he made some mistakes in desperation time, but overall, the blame should be pointed at his defense and some of his teammates (like the one committing that boneheaded unsportsmanlike conduct penalty) -- and, for that matter, his coaches -- before him.
Not that I'm complaining!
(Again, as always, I don't understand why Michigan fans think that suggesting Ohio State is a bad team will make our win seem better. Seems to me, the better they are -- the better we look in beating them so convincingly!).
November 27th, 2022 at 9:49 PM ^
Stroud does seem like a good kid which explains why osu fans don’t like him. He wants to get out of there and enjoy his life.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:19 PM ^
Caleb Williams's mobility is terrifying. He's another Mahomes.
November 27th, 2022 at 10:57 PM ^
Yep. How many tackles did he elude behind the LOS in that game against ND? The guy really is terrifying and playing them in the CFP would be terrifying. Accurate, strong arm too. He should win the Heisman.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:19 PM ^
TCU would fall behind osu and Bama with a loss.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:44 PM ^
No they won't--it will be their first loss of the season and probably a close one at that. They'd very likely still make the CFP. OSU and Bama are very unlikely to make it, even if USC loses a close one to Utah. In my opinion the 4 CFP teams are already set, although the seedings could change depending on what happens next Saturday.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:51 PM ^
What in god's name makes you think the committee picks a two loss USC over two loss Alabama?
November 27th, 2022 at 8:58 PM ^
Call me naive but, aside from the committee's historic SEC bias, USC will have made it's conference championship game while Alabama will not have. Moreover, Alabama's best win is against....Texas? Ole Miss is no longer ranked, Miss St. is ranked 25th. Even if Utah beats USC for the second time, USC will have beaten Oregon St. (ranked 16th), 17th ranked UCLA and 19th ranked Notre Dame. I actually don't think the Alabama vs. USC comparison is even close.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:05 PM ^
TCU shouldn't be punished for making it to their conference championship game while OSU sits on their porch swings and lustily flips through the Sears catalogue
November 27th, 2022 at 9:18 PM ^
Exactly. Same for Alabama, Tennessee, whoever. Making it to the conference championship game shouldn't be a disadvantage--except maybe if you get blown out. Not having to play an extra game shouldn't be an advantage either.
November 27th, 2022 at 11:00 PM ^
This is a rational thought, however, I don't think the committee will see it this way. TCU was outside the top four for quite a few weeks before breaking in. I don't think they respect TCU's resume' and that first loss will penalize them. I am not saying it's right, I am just trying to guess what will happen based how the committee previously ranked them.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:39 PM ^
I'm not sure, though. The Big 12 isn't as strong as some of the other conferences, and there's been an accusation all year that TCU is smoke-and-mirrors. If both they and OSU have one loss, and OSU's is to No. 2-ranked Michigan, while TCU's is to KState ...?
Plus, I think most people (including, generally, me) defer to big-name programs. The assumption is that, even in years where their records are genuinely impressive, schools like Cincinnati and South Florida simply don't play the same quality of teams, week-in and week-out, as schools like Alabama and Ohio State.
(The Big Ten may not deserve that credit this year, but I think the general deference to programs like Ohio State makes sense. I think they probably would have done better than Cincinnati in the playoffs last year, for instance).
Anyway, maybe TCU will win and make this all moot. But I'm not sure it's as cut-and-dry an analysis as you do.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:56 PM ^
SEC and B1G has 3 and 4 loss teams in conference Championships. Who are we to complain about B12 and PAC12
November 27th, 2022 at 8:21 PM ^
Caleb Williams is great but USC's rush defense is what some might refer to as "Charmin soft".
November 27th, 2022 at 8:52 PM ^
Neither USC or TCU can compete with Michigan in the trenches. Michigan will grind them down like we do everyone else.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:58 PM ^
Yep. It will be a little tougher than MD game. MD QB is really good. You put in USC system, he will look great.
November 27th, 2022 at 11:21 PM ^
I thought that in 2006 too. I agree our offense could win in the trenches against USC'S D, but I'm not sure our poorish pressure D-line is good against Williams. I think it could be a highish scoring, high variance game. Meaning, I think UM is better, but I think USC would win 3/10 times. I think it would be a good game.
November 28th, 2022 at 12:48 PM ^
USC's defense in 2006 was far better than this year's. They are half of a team- great offense and mediocre defense.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:11 PM ^
Let's hope we see more Super Duper Big Plays next Saturday from the Good Guys in Maize and Blue
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— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) November 26, 2022
November 27th, 2022 at 9:40 PM ^
That call is AWESOME!
November 27th, 2022 at 8:16 PM ^
oof, interesting that both usc and tcu are less than a fg favorite. go heels, I guess.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:17 PM ^
I think USC wins. Not as confident in TCU but I'm not sure they have to as long as it is close. I hope they do because I want them at #3.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^
Purdue-related thread hijack:They beat #8 Duke in basketball today.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20221127_DUKE@PURDUE/
I like it when they lose, though not much as I did when that creep Coach K was in charge.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^
A lot of folks here rooting for the favorites so as to bone OSU (no complaints). I’m rooting for the favorites so that the SEC has only one team in the CFP.
November 27th, 2022 at 9:07 PM ^
Can we root for the favorites for both reasons?
November 27th, 2022 at 9:19 PM ^
Yeah, door slammed on OSU plus having 4 different conferences represented is the best outcome. I'm hoping for a very chalky next weekend.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:23 PM ^
I think we'll win by more than that. Good betting opportunity here.
November 27th, 2022 at 8:24 PM ^
Beware unranked Purdue Spoilermakers vs. #2 ranked teams…