Michigan BBQ and Recruiting thoughts

Submitted by Willhouse on

I thought I might create a thread where we might consolidate our thoughts/opinions/mindless rants about the big weekend coming up in Ann Arbor. This could potentially be a huge recruiting weekend for Michigan.

A couple talking points:

1. Tremendous recently posted on Facebook that he spoke to Leon McQuay III, who stated this morning that "My coach and dad told me that Michigan said if I didn't commit by this weekend, they wouldn't have a scholarship for me".

2. A friend of mine who is in tune with Clemson recruiting told me this morning that Clemson has "basically given up" on RB Derrick Green. Coupling that with Ohio recently ending their recruitment of Green, and the fact that he is spending three days in Ann Arbor with his family along for the ride - maybe there is something going on behind the scenes.

Or maybe not.

But it's worth watching.

brandanomano

July 27th, 2012 at 11:02 AM ^

I think the LM3 'commit this weekend or don't at all' move isn't necessarily trying to force him to commit to us. I think it's more of a 'we're pretty set on cb so if you don't want to commit to us now then we're going to focus on other things' move, which would make sense after the douglass commitment. Although a lot of fans of other schools will probably say "Hah! Told you guys Brady Hoke pressures recruits!" Either that or there are some silent commits out there and the coaches know something we don't, which we probably would have heard about by now.

tigers17fan

July 27th, 2012 at 11:09 AM ^

"Either that or there are some silent commits out there and the coaches know something we don't, which we probably would have heard about by now"

If we had heard about them by now, then those commits that the coaches know about and we don't wouldn't exist...could you explain your meaning please?

brandanomano

July 27th, 2012 at 11:28 AM ^

I didn't mean we would know who it was, but we would know that someone has committed. There have been instances in the past where a guy like Sam Webb will say that a recruit has silently committed, but he won't give us a name. Then Twitter blows up and Mgoblog explodes with speculation. The end.

doughboy

July 27th, 2012 at 11:51 AM ^

Sam Webb does a nice job of explaining Leon's situation in the Detroit News yesterday (link below).  However, the most interesting and insightful aspect of the article is Mr. McQuay's thoughts in the Comments Section.  IMO, I like how the McQuay family is handling this.  Leon would certainly be a nice addition to our class, but I like his selection process regardless of choice.

 

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120726/OPINION03/207260492/1131/sports0201/U-M-waits-decisions-from-top-recruits-Leon-McQuay-Laquon-Treadwell

Elmer

July 27th, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^

Mr. McQuay does seem to be on top of things, but he should really stop reading the comments section.  All kinds of idiots post absolute nonsense and it isn't worth his time even commenting. 

I really like Leon and was hoping he lands in Ann Arbor, but either way I hope the kid has a nice career.

Willhouse

July 27th, 2012 at 11:09 AM ^

Haha, yeah.

I thought that sounded very RDT-ish as well. But the dude is a Clemson alum and, in our recent conversations, seems to follow recruiting very closely from a Clemson standpoint. He might be full of crap, but seems like knowledge that would not be hard to come by if you followed their recruiting closely.

MichiganMan2424

July 27th, 2012 at 11:24 AM ^

I don't think that this news about Clemson is all that rare. I've read similar things on 247 posted by Clemson fans. As of now, most people think that his favorite is probably Auburn, but they also have another RB that they're trying to flip from Oklahoma, so if they get him, they may be out on Green too.

Alf Urkel

July 27th, 2012 at 11:06 AM ^

bbqbbqbvqbvqbbqbbqbvqbbq I want bbq brisket. let's make this a ribs thread, I love ribs. let's see some pictures of people eating ribs. that's all I gave to say. go blue!!! ribs!!!

bballislife22

July 27th, 2012 at 11:11 AM ^

I know nobody wants to hear this really, but think about it. It appears at this very moment as though we have a good chance with all 3 of Treadwell, Green, and McQuay, and only two spots in the class remaining. If all of them wanted to commit, would we have to turn one away? And if we did, could anyone really justify giving a scholarship to a long snapper in this class if it means losing out on one of these guys? This said, I have total faith in Hoke and the coaching staff and hope that Hoke is our coach for a long time to come. They are smarter than every single one of us on this board. But the only thing I can think may have been the reason for this is that the coaching staff didn't anticipate still being in on all of these guys at the end? Any thoughts?

tigers17fan

July 27th, 2012 at 11:30 AM ^

Honestly? I would rather have Sypniewski. We have a very strong class for our secondary already, and Sypniewski is a stud long snapper. This is a position that we can't overlook since he will (hopefully) have 4 full years with 10ish snaps per game. Any single one of those screwed up can ruin a game, and ruin a season. Also, going back on our commitment to him sends a terrible message. We'd be getting into Alabama shuffle territory there

samsoccer7

July 27th, 2012 at 11:49 AM ^

Now that a lot of schools are offering scholarships to long snappers, if you don't offer one, you basically won't get any of the top 20 guys. To me it's worth one scholarship over so many years. He can hopefully wait until 2016 or 2017 before freeing another one. And we are not gonna get all 3 guys anyway so it doesn't even matter.

NOLA Wolverine

July 27th, 2012 at 1:15 PM ^

I don't get why everyone insists on making this argument. Did I miss some sort of terrible long snapping epidemic over the past fourty years that suddenly warrants the need to scout and offer kids to long snap? Have walk ons suddenly become insufficient? What is a stud long snapper, anyways? There's no gurantee that he will react to the college atmosphere and perform up to par with his "ranking" anyways. Want an example? Look at our punter. The only difference now is that instead of saying "so long" to a walk on who can't do the job we'll have another scholarship tied up for years.

Daniel

July 27th, 2012 at 11:32 AM ^

Ok, so this is strange. I could have sworn I saw this post was originally authored by WolverineInABag. Then, after I refreshed it, the author changed.

BISB, was there a name change?

edit: also, the statement about "people's word mean[ing] something" could be incredibly ironic in this case.

MGoCooper

July 27th, 2012 at 3:36 PM ^

I've apologized. I understand the resentment, but none of it was done to mislead anyone. All the information (as will be proven next week) came from people who are around recruiting. I'm still waiting for someone to point out something he said, besides his early prediction on Ty Isaac, that was wrong. I mean really, the guy was dead on about LTT, Dawson, and Boesch. He also called Ty Isaac being ready to make a decision, about 3 days before anyone else. By the way, not that it pertains to Michigan, but he also said Reuben Foster wouldn't end up at Bama, and that robert nkemdiche wouldn't wind up in the sec, when everyone said differently. No one ever wants to point that out, because it is much easier to hate me for posting from his account a hand full of times.

OMG Shirtless

July 27th, 2012 at 5:48 PM ^

You post from multiple accounts.  One pretending to be an Alabama fan.  You got caught. Own it.  This excuse of accidentally posting from his account is complete bullshit.  The fact that you interviewed yourself is even dumber.  Way to go deleting your twitter after you got caught.

Farstate

July 27th, 2012 at 9:34 PM ^

Why did you change your name? If you didn't do anything misleading and you don't think it should be a big deal then why try to hide behind a new name? Also, if you want to try to change your identity then you might want to change your quote from your the one you had as WIAB.

M-Wolverine

July 27th, 2012 at 10:20 PM ^

Worse than lying to everyone you tried to use this site to create an audience for some website you want to create. With crappy info. No one cares, you lost any credibility you might have. And the "never wrong guy" had all his "sources" telling him Poggi was going to Alabama, and not close to a decision, and it came out he was announcing that week the same day you said it. And tip, beyond the look of guilt, a guy who changes his username because he had multiple usernames doesn't instill a lot of confidence.

MichiganMan2424

July 27th, 2012 at 11:43 AM ^

That's great and all, but until RDT says it, I'm not buying it...

On the mobile app it still says WIAB is the author of the post

lhglrkwg

July 27th, 2012 at 11:37 AM ^

Can't remember where I read this but I thought a lot of recruits liked Hoke & Co. (though not necessarily Michigan) because they always know exactly where they are with the staff and how they envision them. If Green, Treadwell and McQuay are at all in contact with the coaches then I'm sure they know exactly how many scholarships we have and if a spot will or won't be held for them

GoBluePhil

July 27th, 2012 at 2:01 PM ^

All college coaching staffs are more competent than followers on boards. And they surely don't ask us for our opinion. We hear and repeat rumors galore. We watch a little film and get the WOW!! factor. I trust Michigans coaches to recruit those players that best fit the needs of this program both athletically and academically. Go Hoke, Go Blue.

Mr. Rager

July 27th, 2012 at 11:22 AM ^

No - 3 is way too high.  The number is 1.5 or 2, imo.

2013 - Derrick Green is the only one that could drop.  

2014 - I would say based on information at Rivals that Ferns and Webb are the only ones that could drop.  

That is 3 kids with potential.  I guess you could say that "Laquon + Shane at Gridiron Kings = potential LT commitment" but that is REALLY stretching it.  

Mr. Rager

July 27th, 2012 at 11:47 AM ^

They only talk about Ferns and Webb, but do mention that they would be surprised re: Webb. Get a subscription if you want the full details!  I highly recommend using a pay site and MGoBlog, the thought that "everything ends up here anyway" is only a half truth.  You might get a decent summary a few days late - but there is a ton of value in paying for Rivals (or Scout, I assume).  

cadillacjack333

July 27th, 2012 at 11:20 AM ^

Simple.  If you want someone to commit, they can't believe that the spot will be open forever.  Fortunately you get most of what you want with this strategy.  Unfortunately you will always lose out on one.  I am happy getting 95% of what we want.  Now if we were Alabama, we would be doing the Alabama Shuffle and telling all the 3 star players how tough playing time is going to be for them.

UPMichigan

July 27th, 2012 at 11:40 AM ^

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dawson say a few weeks ago that someone was going to commit around this time (BBQ weekend)? There's no way he could have predicted Douglas' committment. But maybe it's a 2014 prospect.