November 29th, 2022 at 7:16 PM ^
Go get that championship
November 29th, 2022 at 7:18 PM ^
Go get those championships
November 29th, 2022 at 7:19 PM ^
Negative. How about we go to the Championship, every year.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:19 PM ^
Yes plural!
November 29th, 2022 at 7:43 PM ^
Yesses.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:19 PM ^
Let's fucking go!
November 29th, 2022 at 7:19 PM ^
what rankings? playoff rankings havent been released yet
November 29th, 2022 at 7:20 PM ^
So the top 3 are in pretty much no matter what. TCU with the top ranked schedule of the top 4, they don't fall out of it with a loss.
I think Michigan wants to be 2. I think that is good for them this year.
OSU gets 5 and it'll come down to that USC game. I don't think it should matter but they very likely won't keep USC in with a loss so OSU may still sneak in. Michigan fans should be USC fans as well for a night.
Either way, I'll go back and say that I think the best scenario for Michigan is that everything holds. All the top 4 wins and you are looking at about the cleanest path you could have hoped for to win a National Championship.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:26 PM ^
USC should knock off Utah in the Pac-12 Championship game given they have the Heisman QB so they'll hold #4. TCU likely to beat KS State in Big-12.
Yep, all Top 4 teams win on Saturday.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:36 PM ^
Not guaranteed, Utah already beat them once, because USC doesn't play a lot of defense. They're very similar to Tennessee this year. They gave up over 400 yards passing, and 4 rushing touchdowns last time, and committed a ton of penalties. They'll have to play their best game without their star running back.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
Obviously not guaranteed but the first game was played in SLC and Utah only won by one point. With the help of some apparently questionable DPI calls that made all the difference in the world. Now the rematch is on a neutral field and one team has everything to play for. I'd say the odds favor USC for sure.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:50 PM ^
Rice Eccles is a TOUGH place to play. Travis Dye is good but only had 75 yards and a TD while Williams had 400 yards passing and 5 TDs. Williams can make up for Dye's production with his own running ability. If USC decides to cover Dalton Kincaid this game they should win by 10+.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^
This is the correct take - USC covers @ -3. My guess is that USC wins by 10.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:47 PM ^
I don’t think there’s a snowballs chance in Hell they will put a one loss TCU in over a one loss OSU.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:58 PM ^
OSU gets blown out at home vs TCU in an extra game. TCU should be in no matter what.
November 29th, 2022 at 8:04 PM ^
We want Georgia, Michigan, and TCU to win if you we want to face TCU in the first round and I do. TCU will not be in the CFP if they lose as the Big 12 is considered weak. The only reason TCU is in the discussion is because they do not have a loss.
November 29th, 2022 at 8:10 PM ^
Totally disagree. Everyone has come out to say that it's obvious that the top 3 are in. TCU has the best SOS of the entire top 4. They're in short of a total meltdown. It would take a blowout to go from an undefeated 3 playing in a CCG falling out.
USC has a loss and a weaker SOS than OSU. If they lose they are likely out. TCU is in. 1-3 are in. It'll come down to USC and final seeding based on result. I'm fairly certain of that.
November 29th, 2022 at 10:46 PM ^
If USC loses Friday night then Ohio St is pretty much in as the 4. Would Georgia blow the SEC CG (again) to avoid them in the semis? I know OSU looked bad this weekend but, seriously, TCU is zero threat to Georgia. OSU at least has athletes...
Georgia might be blowing an Atlanta semifinal but OSU is built for gently air conditioned domes.
I am only 95% kidding ...
November 30th, 2022 at 7:03 AM ^
Georgia will do anything to get the peach advantage.
November 29th, 2022 at 11:48 PM ^
TCU has dodged bullets all year. The committee was reluctant to put them in the top 4 until they had no choice.
A one loss OSU gets in over a one loss TCU. The buckeye's loss would be to the number 2 team, TCU's loss would come at the hands of #10 Kansas State.
Committee chairman Boo Corrigan flat out said about OSU that, "Going into, really early in the fourth quarter, the game was still close.”
There is also precedent. In 2017 Bama was 11-1 but didn't play in the SEC title game. But when undefeated Wisconsin ranked 4 lost to OSU in the Big Ten championship the Tide moved to 4th and eventually won the National Championship.
So yeah if TCU loses the buckeyes are very likely to get in.
November 30th, 2022 at 12:13 AM ^
I agree with this, against much of this board's opinion. I think if EITHER TCU or USC lose then the losing team is out and OSU is in. Or, if both teams lose, which is certainly possible, then does TCU remain at #3? Has a team ever lost and not dropped in ranking? Or does OSU go to #3 and TCU drops to #4 or completely out and then Alabama takes the #4 spot? Armageddon.
November 29th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^
The Big12 was not considered weak this year.
November 29th, 2022 at 8:25 PM ^
SP+ ranks the big 12 above the big ten. The big ten is an absolute joke outside the big 3 teams.
November 29th, 2022 at 10:50 PM ^
As evidence by only 3 teams being ranked, all inside the top 8 and all from the same division.
November 29th, 2022 at 8:41 PM ^
The undefeated TCU squad has given up nearly 300 points on the season. Oklahoma is a non-threat for the first time in forever. Only four squads has a winning record in the conference and the team in the championship game has three losses on the year.
Before I get downvoted because we are facing Purdue in our conference championship game, we had to go through OSU and Penn State to get there. Penn State could win the Big 12. Michigan, OSU, LSU, Alabama, Penn State, Tennessee (with Hooker), USC, Oregon, and of course Georgia could all beat TCU if they played. Its hard to argue when multiple teams in other conferences can beat your undefeated squad that you reside in a strong conference.
I hope TCU wins out and I hope Michigan gets them in the first round; I expect Michigan to beat them handedly. If TCU losses to Kansas State, and that is a very real possibility, then they will be out of the playoffs provided USC wins.
November 29th, 2022 at 9:08 PM ^
I don't think anyone is downvoting you (but you shouldn't care if they do, voice your opinion).
I get what you're saying but the B12 isn't being disrespected like past years. TCU has the best SOS in the top 4. KSU is a good team, almost beat TCU already.
I can't see a way that even this backwards ass committee bones that up and drops them out. Everyone in the media is unanimous that this is the case and I'm with them. This isn't the "Oklahoma and nobody else" B12. It was a decent conference that TCU ran the table through. They're in. Seeding may change based on results but they're in. USC is the game that will alter things if they lose.
That said, I don't downvote as a practice unless it's a wildly crazy take (or accidentally as it seems to show highlighted ups and downs on posts for me at times, I assume it's a mobile issue). So I will not downvote this but mainly because, truly, I see your point. It's The Committee. It wouldn't shock me much if they did what you claim. I don't think they will and nobody else does but you never know.
November 29th, 2022 at 9:32 PM ^
Thanks for the comment. I have read other articles since my post in consideration that I am wrong. Really, it doesn't matter if I am right as the committee has the final say and I don't have a vote.
I think if TCU losses to Kansas State and USC beats Utah that the top four teams in the final rankings are: 1. Georgia, 2. Michigan 3. USC 4. Ohio State.
While I do think Michigan can beat USC in a playoff matchup; I do think Michigan would have an easier time with TCU. Many of our fans would hate the prospect of Ohio State backing their way into the playoffs but I could see the committee putting them in over a one loss TCU.
A couple of arguments could be made in claiming that the Big 12 is better than the Big 10. Nebraska was blown out by Oklahoma and Iowa was beaten by Big 12 bottom feeder Iowa State. I am just hoping that is more indicative of the weakness of the Big 10 West and not the conference as a whole.
I am hoping for a matchup with TCU because I really foresee us beating them by multiple touchdowns and then having a rematch against Georgia.
November 29th, 2022 at 9:39 PM ^
No problem and I don't think you're wildly wrong or anything. As you said, we don't vote so who really knows what this weird committee will do? For now we just slightly disagree on this and that's fine as hopefully we won't ever have to know!
I'm with you in that I think all UM fans want chalk from here. UM fans should want to stay at 2 and play TCU. USC is beatable but if give. the choice of the 3 you want TCU. So if all win it just stays as it is. I think you then hope USC can get by UGA but that's going way too far ahead.
November 29th, 2022 at 10:33 PM ^
Would you settle for Mauna Loa?
November 29th, 2022 at 8:24 PM ^
I think TCU should be in no matter what, but the committee does weird stuff, we'll see if they lose.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:20 PM ^
OSU at 5; PSU at 8. Michigan could end up 1 in the finals, depending on how things break Saturday, and seems that OSU would move ahead of a two-loss SC if they lose, and perhaps a one-loss TCU if they lose.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:27 PM ^
A team that loses in their conference championship game shouldn't be penalized versus a team that didn't even make their championship game and sat on their hands for the weekend.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:35 PM ^
True in a vacuum. But, SC will have lost twice to the same team. Hard to claim top four status after that. Not impossible, but hard. And, TCU has meaningful questions around SOS and SOR that will get a closer look if they can’t close the deal in their championship game.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
SC’s loss to Utah was by a point in the last seconds on the road in an emotionally charged situation. 2 losses to that same team is much better than getting run off your home field by 22.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:43 PM ^
If USC is ahead now and would remain ahead if the game wasn't played, then they should just sit it out. Why play and risk losing?
In order to make sense the committee would have needed to rank OSU ahead of USC this week allowing for USC to jump into the 4-spot with a conference championship win.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:46 PM ^
that would be an interesting call. Sitting out the conference championship to preserve your playoff resume
November 29th, 2022 at 9:13 PM ^
This is why I think there is a slight chance the 4 teams are set regardless. Now, I wouldn't bet on it with OSU at 5 but it may come down to whether they want to penalize a team that "won" the right to play another game vs the only team that beat them by 1pt in an away game.
In what world does it make sense to penalize a team in that situation? Today they're in, clearly a top-4 team by their merit...but this team that just lost at home by 22pts is sitting at home rubbing their hands so don't you make a mistake, USC!
What is that logic?! In a fair world and committe the teams are chosen and only seeding remains. Yet, we all know this isn't a fair committe.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^
TCUs SOR is #1 and their SOS is 35, better than UM (39) or GA (47).
November 29th, 2022 at 7:36 PM ^
A team that loses in their conference championship game shouldn't be penalized versus a team that didn't even make their championship game and sat on their hands for the weekend
Particularly when that team is osu
November 29th, 2022 at 7:22 PM ^
Meh, is what it is. Michigan should be #1 based on previous selections and what they outline when deciding. Out of conference is such a weak talking point when UM beats the #2 and #8 team at the time. Alas, SEC, it just means more.
Just win baby, win! Go Blue!
November 29th, 2022 at 8:56 PM ^
Yep. Georgia plays the world beaters in Samford and Kent State but nobody cares because they played an overrated Oregon team in their home state.
Whatever.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:23 PM ^
Let's not kid ourselves, TCU is not a joke. They've won big games against good teams.
But... if I could sign up to lock in this bracket, I would. Hard to imagine a better one.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:32 PM ^
They are good, but not world beaters. Had to come back multiple scores in several games. Best win is K-State (9-3) who was down to its 3rd QB and I guess Texas (8-4). The rest of the schedule is hot garbage.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:41 PM ^
November 29th, 2022 at 7:49 PM ^
Their defense is ranked somewhere around 25th in the fancy stats, which is fine but not good enough against a team like Michigan. They'll crack like an egg and we'll make a purple omelette out of em.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:48 PM ^
Agree...
Last year, I felt like we were playing with house money to just be in the CFP.
This year feels very different.
November 29th, 2022 at 7:23 PM ^
Tennessee and Bama above PSU and right below OSU is a joke for sure. Tennessee has been blown out twice and once by an average team. Bama really just has an insane amount of juice.
The committee mentions Bama has close loses, yet no mention of their close wins.