Scout is reporting that Muskegon DL Damon Knox has committed to MSU. For anyone wondering, it's been reported here multiple times that his grades wouldn't be good enough to net a scholarship offer. Best of luck to the kid, even if he's off to Sparty.
Why did he commit?
"That coaching staff is amazing,” he said about the Spartans. “They’re so energetic and never flat. I constantly hear from them and they really want me. They make me feel very wanted…I love that program.”
No big deal I don't think his
1.9??
Is that really true? If so, how the heck could MSU admit him? I know Michigan has great academic standards (they admitted me!) but I never imagined that there would be a real, palpable difference among the Big Ten schools. If this doesn't evidence the higher standards at U-M then I can't come up with a better example.
Disgruntled former moderator. I got a lot of problems with you people!
Thats what it says on scouts
Thats what it says on scouts page. He also got a 17 on the ACT.
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Well stated
Thanks for your thoughts. Obviously, as an MSU grad, its interesting to hear your take. +1
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Meh
The counterargument you bring up is just some bullshit ploy to hide behind when you lower academic standards in the name of victories on the field.
It's almost exactly the same thing as when Dantonio hands out second chances like free candy and is actually revered by some in the media when Rodriguez is killed by the same writers for recruiting Demar Dorsey. An old, tired argument yes, but when another kid who wouldn't even sniff MSU (!!) grades-wise is recruited and some want to say they're just giving him a chance, it's a load of shit. It's all about winning on Saturdays.
Big Ten schools all have the
Big Ten schools all have the same grade standards? MSU is not on the same level with UM and NW just to name a couple.. I didn't go to a big ten school, but it is pretty obvious the standards are different at these schools on how they accept people etc..
Stating the obvious
I never insinuated that all schools have the same standards. I am just surprised by this real-life example of the glaring difference between U-M and MSU. Its just interesting, that's all.
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He was offered a scholarship
He was offered a scholarship by MSU's football staff, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's been admitted to the university. Even if he is, he won't be allowed to receive a scholarship under Big Ten and NCAA rules if he doesn't become academically eligible.
According to the NCAA, a 1.9
According to the NCAA, a 1.9 core GPA won't get you in. A 2.0 can get you in with a 1010 on the SAT or an 86 on the ACT.
See p. 6 of http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/CB11.pdf
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
86 on the ACT?
Holy crap, good luck. You'd have to take it 3 times to get that score.
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife.
They probably add the
They probably add the English, math, reading and science scores. According to Wikipedia the average scores for those areas are 20.6, 21.0, 21.4 and 20.9, respectively. That adds up to 83.9.
"After all was said and done, there was nothing left to do."
He got in? Oh wait, MSU.
He got in? Oh wait, MSU.
I wasn't a huge fan of his
I wasn't a huge fan of his play, anyway, but especially if he's a borderline academic kid. I've had about enough of those in the recent past.
Agreed
I watched him play against Rockford and he didn't show me much. I only noticed that he was massive.
Good luck to him! Always
Good luck to him! Always want to see kids succeed
This wouldn't upset me at all
This wouldn't upset me at all if we didn't have a need for DL. If Zettel commits, and maybe one other decent DT type as well, this won't bother me in the slightest. If we miss out on some of the guys we're after, then I don't know.
Either way, I guess the grades thing is what it is. Won't be a major surprise if he doesn't qualify, from what I've heard.
MSM spin
"dantonio heals sick; helps troubled teen"
If we let him in, it would be
"rodriguez desperate to save job, throws academic excellence aside"
No radio. Nothing of value.
I think Bob Dylan said it best...
When it comes to MSU and academic standards with fball recruits...
"when you got nothin, you got nothin to lose."
IF by "helps troubled teens"
IF by "helps troubled teens" you mean helps them with transportation from the jailhouse to the fieldhouse, then yes, your statement is accurate.
Seen him play
didn't impress me aside from the fact that he's big for a hs football player.
Darian Cooper
He visited MSU and didn't commit this weekend, right? Might be good news for us coupled with the Knox signing. Pure speculation, but I'll take the optimistic track.
I think read somewhere that
I think read somewhere that he was going to have a hard time qualifying getting into any school.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
Good luck to him
Hope he does well academically so he can compete.
Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
They’re so energetic
They’re so energetic and never flat.
If I were a horrible person, I could find a joke in there...
Please do. We won't think any
Please do. We won't think any differently of you.
Everybody says that until a
Everybody says that until a guy makes a heart attack joke. Then it's all "OH NO, how could you say that!" and "Dude, not cool..." and "We all knew you were an asshole all along..."
sidestepping the defib and flat-line joke for
Just like the entertainment at an upscale strip joint.
who?
who?
Anyone
Anyone remember what Terrence Taylor's GPA/ACT scores were coming in to U of M? Muskegon products seem to have a hard time making the grade.
Anyways, I'm from Muskegon and have heard a lot about this kid. Same boat as Magnus pretty much; he was just bigger than most of the players he played against. Solid player but nothing special.
Hey Now
Hey now, I feel like that's a little bit of an exaggeration. I graduated from Muskegon, and yes Big T and Damon's grades weren't the best, but don't drag the rest of the program into that pile. I think he committed to MSU because they showed more interest, they had a good season, and the fact that several Big Red alums go there doesn't hurt either.
Muskegon players aren't really feeling UM right now because they feel like they UM just isn't giving them any attention. RB Juwan Lewis, one of the top in-state players for 2012, is getting a lot of attention from tOSU, and visited them for the UM-OSU game.
I know i'm rambling here but now its imperative that we get Zettel because we're losing DT prospects by the second.
"Some people think that football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more than that."
Muskegon's program
I'm not sure what it's like now, but when Annese was coaching there.....I mean come on, it's clear grades weren't the number one priority....or even number two.
Priorities?
Who needs priorities? Have you seen his pad level?
I'm sticking with that "22.4% funnier" without the "sarcasm" modifier.
Oh really?
Muskegon products seem to have a hard time making the grade.
I am a Muskegon product and am making a pretty good living off of My U of M degree in Civil Engineering.
Generalizations...... a good way to make yourself look like an ass.
FYI: Muskegon plays in one of the toughest conferences in the state. They also played 4 of the 12 largest schools in the state by attendence over this past season. I'd argue that he is sized up against better and bigger compeition week in and week out than most of our other state of Michigan targets.
All right Lemmings. Bring the heat.
Wow
Wow you have a U of M degree and you're from Muskegon! Just like me! We should be FB friends totally.
It's not a generalization to say that the Muskegon football program constantly puts out players who are barely getting by academically. Taylor was a 2.2 who was given unlimited time in the ACT and had to take it multiple times. Ronald Johnson was a question mark here because of his grades. Knox is apparently the same. The kids are talented as hell on the field but don't seem to have the proper guidance off the field and it costs them chances at major conference schools. If you're going to tell me that Tony Annese gave a shit about academics than you're just a blind homer. Again, I don't know what it's been like since he left, but apparently not much better if your star player can't even pull a 2.0. It's not the kids' fault.
Michigan State once admitted
Michigan State once admitted a grapefruit. True story.
Seriously though, good luck to his brain.
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Never Flat?
Never Flat? Poor kid doesn't even know what the word flat means...
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Is that a birth mark or poop
Is that a birth mark or poop smear on the side of his face?
I'm confused
I'm confused with the OP. Didn't UM make an offer to Knox too?
Knox didn't have a firm
Knox didn't have a firm offer. It was, "If you get your grades up, we might give you a firm offer." From what I understand, those grade issues haven't really been cleared up.
Recruiting
Looks like State grabbed another in-state kid. Looks like we can't recruit in-state or Ohio anymore. If the DB would just make a decision on who our corch would be, we'd all be better off. State rules the in-state recruiting and the powers have shifted. Dantonio not only quotes the Bible, but I heard God let him write a couple of passages for the newest version.
I could really use an inspirational song to lift my spirits...
"I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about." - Peter Griffin
Pretty soon all our recruits
Pretty soon all our recruits will have to come from Alaska because MSU will be taking everyone else.
I think you have it backward
I think Dantonio let God write a couple of passages.
A perfect example
All of this was accomplished without a /s. And it was 22.4% funnier that way.
98%
98% of mgoblog to told me they hate it when people us the "/s" after their sarcastic remark. It's not a Michigan Mark.
"I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about." - Peter Griffin
Good luck to the kid. Won't
Good luck to the kid. Won't knock him for academics - he's probably way bigger than I ever was or will be.
WOW
So good at instate recruiting!!!!11!!!
Another DT recruit off the
Another DT recruit off the ball. I've been saying it for months now. We need to sign at least one DT in this class. We're a small defense that gets pushed around out there. There's no sugar coating this. Our DT rercruiting this year has been disaster.
OK if grades were truely the
OK if grades were truely the issue here then Michigan didnt really lose him if he didnt have the chance. Michigan's academic standards are a little harder i.e. Witty, Kinard, etc.
By the way, this kid was just
By the way, this kid was just declared eligible by the NCAA Clearinghouse, so him committing to MSU instead of UM isn't about grades. I'm not saying MSU beat UM for him (maybe UM cooled off or is looking at someone else), but he is eligible to play for any program he has an offer from.
As you see with Conway, UM also takes commitments from borderline guys hoping that they are cleared to play.
Despite what you want to believe, the University of Michigan doesn't have higher standards for its football players than any other Big Ten school (and neither does Notre Dame, even if they want you to believe that). UM will allow a player to sign as long as NCAA Clearinghouse says he is eligible. The only Big Ten football program that has higher academic standards than merely being "eligible" is Northwestern.
I don't know about football
but years ago, a top Michigan high school basketball player committed to Michigan. He ultimately wasn't admitted and then got a scholarship from -- drum roll -- OSU. As I said, this was years ago and maybe things have changed, but I still think guys get into some B10 schools, but can't get into Northwestern and Michigan.
No big deal I don't think his 1.9 gpa would do to well here. Best of luck to him though
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