Let's go boys!
MBB @ Purdue Open Thread
Great start for Stauskas
ULNAR FUCKING NERVE
Oh look, we're in another hole.
Another slow start. Awesome.
There is really no need to step out on GR3 any more..he never hits it
It is becoming a trend.
Stauskas was also clearly fouled on that drive though, typical Big Ten homecooking from the officials.
This game scares the shit out of me. I just have a bad feeling they're going to lose this one.
Just turned it on, but only down 3. Just overreacting already or a slow start?
Meh, it's an open thread. If we're not up 30 after the first four minutes it's a slow start.
Wouldn't be an MGoBlog game thread without some good old-fashioned overreaction. We can get whatever shot we want at the moment, just have missed a few open threes or we'd be up.
Kind of a slow start, but I'd say everyone is completely overreacting already.
NO OVERREACTION ITS JUST PANIC TIME
I seriously hate college basketball officials. Why the fuck is it seemingly impossible for these guys to call a fair game? I love college basketball, but the homecooking is one aspect that I despise.
FirstRow. Always FirstRow.
Man, GRIII can't buy a jump shot lately. Hopefully he gets it out of his system before the tourney.
For some reason it takes us a bit to get revved up. I don't like it but we're good. Purdue is jacked right now.
for a "welp"?
He fouls people very easily
Wow great refs here.
2 horrible foul calls.
Oh the ball didn't go in? Must be a foul on Morgan.
I just finished my last midterm, and my classes are cancelled tomorrow. If this keeps up, I'll have hit the trifecta for "reasons to drink heavily on a Wednesday night".
Can we hit a shot? Can't let them think they have a chance by not hitting the broad side of a barn to start the game.
Someone's gotta get to the damn cup
Purdue has some terrible sounding rims
GR3's most impressive ball handling of the year right there
Last game, we saw what happens when Stauskas and Levert are both on. Right now, we're seeing what happens when they're both off.
They're shooting 60% form three, we're shooting 18% overall...yeah, pretty much sums things up.
So we're back to the games where we can't hit shit and the other team all of a sudden becomes a 3 point machine.
So they finally call hold on our cutters
Wow does this team ever love digging themselves in holes at the beginning of games.
I think these refs are MSU fans
I don't think Spike even stepped out.
Well this couldn't get any worse. Team doesn't get enough stops to get down early on the road.
They look out of sorts right now.
Is it too much to ask for some effort on defense? I swear it seems like this team is not trying on that end of the floor at times.
There's complaining about refs.
If the shots aren't falling this can happen
You can pretty much say that about the game of basketball in general...
Is that the thing about all offenses?
What the hell. I hate these sluggish starts. Wake up.
Looks like our defensive gameplan was to not close out hard and protect against the drive. Not going well when they're making every shot.
Just start every game down by a dozen.
It's all for ratings. #wowexperience
Welp, just tuned in. I see we're still doing the slow start thing. On pace for 12 first half points? Excellent.
Why does it seem like we are always in a big hole early in games?
Because we are in huge holes every game (save Nebraska).
Ok Horford, time to sit a few plays out on the bench after that one.
This is incredible. We're missing everything.
Too many threes, even for us.
what the hell is Spike taking step-back long twos for?
We are shooting 14%.
fucking hell we can't hit shit..why is spike taking long baseline pull up 2s..
Well the good news is if we keep shooting this poorly, the rim will probably break and we'll get a nice long timeout to regroup while they fix it.
That's a bad 10 minutes of basketball.
1/4 into the game and we've got two FGs. Kind of a big MSU hangover.
So, how many games in a row have we gotten down by double digits in the 1st half?
6 of the last 7, Nebraska at home being the exception.
this is abysmal, ten minutes in and they haven't had one good offensive set
This team gives up a ton of easy looks every game. This team has good enough athletes to not play this bad on the defensive end of the floor, is clearly about effort.
We are getting blown out by a terrible team.
They tampered with the rim on that side of the court.
Awful defense from Albrecht. Why is he in the game again?
This is ... embarrassing.
Oh no! We suck again!
We can't hit the broad side of a barn.
We are hitting all parts of the rim
We came back down 11 to State, we can come back against Purdue. Chill.
me thinks a lot of guys were reading their press clippings all week. what a joke so far.
...I want a do-over.
Michigan Sports: The Epicenter of False Hope
Lol @ everyone dismissing the "overreacting" when we were down 7-0.
it was never 7-0 guy
Is it time to panic yet? Will be very difficult to overcome this start, and giving Purdue all the confidence in the world.
Oh look, it's Jordan Morgan going up like he's a 5'6 kid playing house league.
He'd have to keep his feet on the ground to shoot any softer.
Purdue takes it away.
We are getting what we deserve...
3 of 15 is special
Why does everyone go off against us?
Because we play terrible defense, individually and as a team
Yup! Beilein needs to pull some sort of defensive reformatting this off season. Can't keep giving the game away like this.
you're a horrible defensive team, that doesn't give a good consistent effort on that end of the floor.
you're a horrible defensive team, that doesn't give a good consistent effort on that end of the floor.
Time to start reverting to the mean
Must not want to win the conference. Purdue is awful. That is the only explanation.
Fire Borges. This offense sucks.
Pitiful performance so far. They better wake up in a hurry.
When was the last time that Michigan didn't come out looking like garbage during the first 10 minutes of the game? They've been able to come back a few times, but it's been so ugly at the beginning. 8 points during the first 12 minutes tonight. That is awful. I would expect a team of 5 Aaron Crafts to be able to score 8 points in 12 minutes.
i think, but that seems like a month ago.
Thats a no call?
We should just count ourselves lucky it wasn't a foul on Morgan.
I mean, it seems like it almost takes a concentrated effort to shoot under 20%.
Then again, not if Purdue's bricktastic backcourt shoots 100% from 3 land all night.
This team looks like absolute shit right now. I guess they listened to all the talk of "Michigan will win the next 4 games" and have taken everything forgranted, hence them potentially shitting away their path to the B1G title. I might start watching again later, but for now, I'd prefer to watch something that doesn't want to make me rip my hair out.
are playing like absolute garbage. Terrible.
Let's blame it on the bigs when the Purdue guards are lighting is up makes sense.
about as much sense as your post. They aren't rebounding, they aren't protecting the rim, and they aren't finishing at the basket. The guards shooting is only part of the problem. The reason we only have 12 fucking points isn't because the Purdue guards are making shots.
uh, what's the opposite of good?
What a way to crap the bed.
the final score will be roughly 85-30.
Time for Caris to take over
Good God why do we keep jacking up long shots...granted we keep turning the ball over now anyway. Gotta find ways to get to the rack for higher efficiency shots and then let the long jumpers come once the rhythm is there(granted they're not far off on the 3 balls, they're close).
This clown show is another, WTF
Not playing like this.
We're on pace for about 30 points in this game.
This is beyond disturbing.
One of those nights. Had a bad feeling about this game....hate to see us give a game back on the next opportunity. Also, why can't Morford go up strong on a put back.....just once....please?
I'll continue to downvote anyone that says something along the lines of "These kids are taking it for granted they listened to the media too much blah blah"
If you legitimately think that's the reason we're down, see yourself out.
Well given the lack of effort and general WTF ness of their play, it's not impossible.
Shots not going in obviously means lack of effort, I agree. Just a very tired meme imo.
a lack of effort on the defensive end ? Of course it has been happening on defense all year, so we shouldn't be surprised at this point I suppose.
we'll win this game. the Johnsons won't stay hot all game and our guys'll start hitting.
Why allow a streaky shooting team to find the range with wide open looks? Purdue is defending us better than anyone else this season thus far. This game is teetering on getting out of reach before halftime....you cannot continue to have abysmal starts and win basketball games. I'm baffled at how this team starts basketball games. Why is there such a lack of focus?
this is the trouble with poor defense. when we go cold, we look terrible. hopefully we shake it off, but purdue's defense looks really good so far.
I know that home court advantage is a thing, but we really take it to another level. Ridiculous.
Of what happens when a bad team plays hard and the good team stands around. Nik and Caris are the only ones that create on offense and Nik guards no one.
Terone Johnson 4-4 from 3. Same shit, different day.
If they don't figure this shit out by the tourney they are in for it. The Ohio game will have nothing on what'll happen this time around. What a weak ass and embarrassing mental showing.
If we pull this shit in the tourney, it's going to be Loyola Marymount all over again.
This team is cursed
19 point hole against THIS fucking team? Christ Almighty. This is embarassing.
This. Is. A. Joke.
This f'n ridiculous. Purdue blows.
Last year we were down 12 with 12 min to play at Purdue. Per a RT form Ace. Hopefully we can turn this around sooner rather than later!
they have a guy who's hot. so let's let him keep having open looks. happens game after game after game.
This fucking shit has to stop.
And down 19. It would take a miracle to come back now considering we were down less to Wisconsin.
Wisconsin is a significantly better team. Ease up bud.
Don't tell me to ease up. 19 point comebacks are extremely rare.
YAY TRANSITION POINTS!
Can someone please teach perimeter defense
Missed free throw. Lolololol.
I'm hoping this ends up like the wisky iu game last night
Is that too much to ask somehow?
Yes, I mad.
Need more contested heaves from isolation.
Offense is rocking.
In the first half and win games. We're close to being out of it.
Wisconsin was down 10 last night, and ended up winning easily. They had 19 points at halftime.
We'll likely be down more than 10, but Purdue also isn't very good.
Well, we've cut it to 10 already.
Terone Johnson has outscored our team. Yikes.
Why does Terone Johnson play like Michael Jordan against us?
Purdue can't stop water from running uphill for half the season. I think they just gave up another 3-pointer to MSU. But against us, they're the fucking '89 Pistons.
1-3-1 sighting... not sure if I like it. We promptly gave up an open look at three.
Did you guys know Nik and Caris gained weight?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Drink any time an announcer says how much weight Stauskas and Levert gained in the offseason.
Are good weight changes.
Plays the game
Cut it to 10 by half and we'll be alright.
dunk the ball Nik
Did Stauskas and Levert gain any weight since last season?
The fuck is this?
Jeez, Stauskas make a layup.
Stauskas needs to stop just throwing shit up and expecting contact. This isn't the NBA.
Quit trying to anticipate a foul and just go hard.
In his defense, he did get hammered on the first possession, but yes I agree with you
That's more like it.
Well, cut that lead to 10.
Or cut it to 5!
Hey, they took the lid off the basket. That was nice of them
Bam! 10 point game.
Yay regression to the mean!!!!
plays like MJ against us it seems
We just don't play tough d
about right to me
Seriously where would this team be without LeVert?
we should be ok and pull this one out. . .
I'm super pissed about how this team is resiliently fighting back after a huge win on Sunday. Fucking embarassment, right guys? These threads man.
Being down 19 to Purdue is embarassing at any point in the game.
Yes, because it's completely acceptable to dig a 19-point bunker in 12 minutes against Pur-fucking-due....
Please, tell me more about what is and is not acceptable.
You like looking at a 27-8 hole with 8 to go in the 1st half?
Sorry. I'm not blowing sunshine up everybody's ass when we get down almost 20 against an 8th place Big Ten team.
I'd say getting down 19 to a bad team to within about ten minutes could realistically start the list......
Good job boys, cut 9 points into it that quickly, hopefully can keep it going.
Stauskas looks like he got attacked by raccoons recently. Damn.
I know Brian touched on it a little bit a week or two ago, but is Michigan the worst first half team in the country this year? Out of, say, top 50 or 100 teams. I can't think of any other team off the top of my head that consistently puts itself in massive holes every game and still wins games. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. They are either on fire or ice cold in first halves and there is usually no between.
But it sure as he'll seems like it
They'll have it down to 5 or so by the break, and I see them roaring out in the second half. Too many good shooters on Michigan, and the Johnson brothers aren't going to play out of their mind the entire way.
Caris doesn't seem to understand the purpose of the 1-3-1. Instead of trapping when they have a guy in a bad spot, he just backs off.
Was that a 1-3-1. Looked like a 2-3, but I'm an idiot when it comes to these things.
Why is everyone freaking out? Just relax. We are chipping away. We can't shoot that bad the rest of the way, and they can't shoot that well.
It probably had something to do with being down 19 points to a bad team.
Just my guess.
Get off to shitty starts and bounce back at the end
team looks like they might blow the Big Ten title against a shit team. Just a thought.
Stuaskas with a terrible... pass? Swat? Whatever that was.
Christ, somebody shoot the ball.
the damn ball when you are wide open!!
C'mon Nik can't have that there!
FT troubles again.
That was a 2.
should I be mad if he hits a three. this is mgoblog, gotta stay up on your acronyms
We seem to be doomed to only hitting 1/2 on free throws.
Well it's not going to be easy to close the gap if you can't ever get a damn stop.
Just gotta laugh when even their 7 foot post guy hits a 3
Score went from 29 to 31.
Well, as I predicted, this game is going horribly.
Decent defense there at least. More of that please.
Because it is becoming obvious the chances of a deep run in the tourny like last year are not good. You have to a more well rounded team in order to do that.
Doubting this team will find what is lacking on the defensive end of the floor between now and then.I could understand it when they didn't have great athletes a couple of a years ago, but they have better athletes now.
You should go back and read the Penn State thread from last year.
No words really...
These fucking terrible passes.
Yeah just sit there and fucking look at the rebound. Don't try and get it or anything.
That pass by Walton is just infuriating.
How are they not calling these fouls? Nik is getting rocked.
Without Mitch our outlet passes SUCK.
why can't we throw a fucking long pass on the breakaway to save our lives?????????
That entire exchange was fucking horrible.
Good Lord. that whole sequence was absurd.
Can we get just one stop. Good defense will open the offense
Call a fucking foul
We're on the road. We're not getting a foul.
Teams get those calls at a higher clip in our building.
In general, homecooking in college basketball may be the norm, but that doesn't mean it is not a horrible aspect of the sport. Sport would be better off if it changed, though I doubt that will ever happen. You don't see this bullshit in college football nearly as often.
With that said, while the officials aren't helping the way, the way UM is playing is the bigger problem tonight.
Have a chance for a layup to bring it to 7, nope down 11.
Stupid ass turnovers...
What a fucking absolute joke.
the damn ball to a guy not a spot. three f'd up fast breaks like that in two games..
And if course Ronnie Johnson scores.
He was wide open why wouldn't he hit the shot.
Well pretty much anyone at the YMCA could have hit that shot.
Yeah how that ''we'll get it down to ten before half'' thing going?
That has to be the worst half of the season.
Terrible on both sides of the ball. The only saving grace is Purdue sucks, so we'll have our chance to win the game if we start playing well.
Hello? Save for the last fucking shot!
The turnovers are killing us right now. That and Purdue's shooting. Would have been a huge swing if Walton gets that pass to Caris or Nik.
Way to close the fucking half out. Should be a 6 point game and instead you give them a 6-0 run to end the half.
Easy to say this from my couch, but wish Robinson would've had the awareness to hold the ball for the last shot.
Meh...painful half so far...wish we can turn things around in the next half.
Purdue is blown out by 17 points on average? Shit they're on track to blow us out.
is going to tear into these dudes. would love to be a fly in the locker room.
Lets see if this team has any heart. This is a defining half coming up.
Somebody has to step up.
Were going to murder them in the 2nd half.
This is the part where we all freak out and certain posters start talking about how much such-and-such guy sucks and how the offense is just standing around too much and do these guys even get coached?
AND THEN we miraculously turn it on and win big. And then we neg the shit out of those posters...
We're not going to "win big." We have to make up a 13 point deficit in 20 minutes.
We're not going to outscore them by 25 in this half.
Thanks for playing along!
Man, I usually don't read these open threads, now I knoiw why. You guys are ridiculous.
the Big Ten against a shit team is all sunshine and rainbows.
To an extent yes, but we were down 19 to a terrible Purdue team which is pretty inexcusable as conference front-runner.
In the past this board would be filled with calls for GRIII to set-up, but now we've just given up on that. If Caris and Nik aren't going it done, then forget it.
Hopefully this turns out like Wisconsin/IU last night where we score 50+ second half points to their 20-something.
8 first half FG's. At least it's pretty much impossible to have a worse 2nd half.
Okay. Who's got the whiskey? We're either going to be happy drunks, or we're going to drown our sorrows. Not sure which yet.
I have ardberg I will pass around, not your beginners scotch though. Very earthy!
We'll win this.
Scared, can they come back?
That awful pass on the 4 on 1 break was huge.
easy 4 pt swing there.
But when we constantly have these types of starts, that speaks to me as a coaching problem.
When you see something happen a couple of times, you can probably chalk that up to a player issue but when its the same thing, time and time again, like these horrible starts, i think its a coaching problem.
Go ahead, kill me away
Someone is complaining about Beilein. Unbelievable.
Someone has complained about literally everything else, it was only a matter of time.
He has done great things at UM, but you have to wonder about the consistent lack of rebounding and defense. Some of that is a clearly a lack of effort. Do you really believe this team doesn't have good enough athletes to better than horrible on the defensive end of the floor?
I mean, in past years we chalked it up to having less than optimal athletes, but now this team is better in that department and it is still a significant issue.
Obviously not worshipping everything Beilein related is clearly not accepted on this board. He is clearly the best coach this program has had in while, that still does not mean he is exempt from any criticism. It shouldn't fall 100% on the players.
People look at the opponents FG% and say "we're horrible on defense," but they ignore the fact that we never put anyone on the line and we stay out of foul trouble. It's a trade off.
And it's not an effort thing. We don't have great size, other than GR3 and GR3 is even playing out of position.
However, small ball is becoming more common in college basketball , which makes it less of a disadvantage than in the past.
Also size does not 100% explain giving up a large number of uncontested jump shots every game. People can argue it all the want, but that is a simply a lack of effort. They are also horrible in terms of fighting through screens.
missing an All American big man who could be getting rebounds and shutting down the middle.
We've had open looks. It's not like Coach B is out there shooting 8/27 from the field.
Consistently bad defense is becoming a trend.
Die bitch die.
Maybe not, but I choose to disagree with you.
One of the reasons that JB develops his guys is style, you never see him panic.
half time magic again. They have to get their head in the game.
This team is as likely to go 2-2 down the stretch as 4-0
Level of energy tonight and not taking care of the rock. Work your magic at half JB!
are reverting back to their early season freshmen ways. brutal the past few games. the improvement of those two are key to any kind of tourny run.
ANOTHER bad start, missed Fts, STUPID tunovers, missed EASY layups..Morgan with his usual fumblitits and missed fts...God this team is frustrating...when there bad there bad, Better get their act together and QUICK or they are going to blow all the seasons hard work and totally negate the MSU win if they lose here
I don't see how we're being ridiculous WolvinLA2...this is the third game in a row where the team has started out shitty and the 4th time in 5 games. It has to stop.
6th time in 7 games we've looked terrible in the first half.
The only game we've come out looking good at the beginning of the game in that 7 game stretch is our home game against Nebraska.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it doesn't necessitate constant complaining or blaming. We missed a bunch of shots, had some bad passes. Purdue has also been on fire. If a couple of theirs don't fall and a couple of our good shots do, this is a 4-5 point game.
I always love this.
"If we made our shots and they didn't, we'd be winning right now!"
Congratulations, you have a rudimentary understanding of the scoring system in basketball.
I should have been more specific, so people with only a rudimentary understanding of English could understand.
We shot well below our average and they shot well above their average. Some of that has to do with defense, but many of our misses (including our free throws) were open shots. Had that been nearer the mean, this would be a close game right now. We have actually taken more shots than they have in this game.
Sometimes your shots aren't falling, and sometimes their shots do. It doesn't have to turn into an OMG THIS TEAM FUCKING BLOWZ thread because of it.
Well they certainly blow in the first half of games for the last month. You can't deny that. There's a trend here.
This is about more than missed shots.
I guess we'll see how tough this team is. I just don't know if they can string together enough stops. Let's go boys, get pissed.
Has really struggled lately, I would like to see GR3 and Irvin play together with Levert running the point.
Everything is bad and awful. I feel angry about this.
The four factors -
Michigan eFG% - 33.33%
Michigan OREB% - 35.00%
Michigan FTR - 33.33%
Michigan turnover % - 13.90%
Purdue eFG% - 62.00%
Purdue OREB% - 27.27%
Purdue FTR - 24.00%
Purdue turnover % - 17.84%
So we're beating them in 3 of the 4 factors and down by 13? Hmm.
My eyes. My beautiful eFG%. Look at those turnover%.
ugh...just finished the 1st half up on the DVR. The youth of this team can be so frustrating.
We had to expect this kind of game after that emotional win on Sunday.
I don't know if anyone could reasonably "expect" us to dig a 20-point ditch in 12 minutes. Lose a close game? Okay, I can see that, but not this monstrosity.
You're out of your mind if you think this was expected. Possible yes, expected no.
we have the wind in the second half so the passing is bound to improve.