Per Allen Trieu.
frank beamer #1
Per Allen Trieu.
Devin Fuller come on down
Not overly devastating.. Devin Fuller or none?
Fuller or none!
Oh well. Sad to hear it, but not a surprise. Who would want to come in and be the footnote between Denard/Devin and Shane Morris?
Actually, with the temperature rising beneath Oregon's program, maybe (just matbe) we could muster up some Hokus-Pocus and pull a Roundtree on the Duck's QB. He was a target of ours (not that I know of any interest on his part). Longshot, but maybe Hoke can use some of that voodoo he do so well.
I saw that too, and died a little inside. And did Rodrigues have any real interest in us before commiting?
Actually, it's a Cole Porter lyrics reference: "You do Something To Me." Also covered by everyone from Sinatra to Ella Fitzgerald. I have no idea about Salt and Peppa.
As I said above, I have no idea if he had any interest in us at any time. I was merely positing that, if we wanted a QB, here's one we previously targeted and missed who might be coming around for a second shot. I'm only speaking to opportunity, not to probability of success.
He seems to be a solid commit, not sure if Hoke wants to go chasin' waterfalls but he ain't too proud to beg either if need be. We don't for sure need to take a QB so we can be selective, we don't want no scrubs.
Edit: Shit wrong group I was thinking TLC! Fail.
This is actually a good thing.
Michigan certainly doesn't NEED a QB in this class given the roster needs. Also, if Russell Bellomy redshirts, he is a de facto 2012 QB. So, I hope the corches fill out other spots.
You know, you say that, and I tend to agree (who are we really going to get who's worth the scholarship, if not Fuller) but to put on the other hat quickly, recall that Houston lost their first and second string QB's last year...in the same game...in the third game of the year. It can happen. The real question to me is whether you can get someone who really amtters even if the worst should happen. In otherwords, with no Fuller, etc., do you really benefit from having Nick Sheridan Mk. II waiting in the wings.
Yeah, I get what you're saying, and it's good to plan for that....but even if Bellomy plays next year, Morris arrives in 2013 and if the need is great they could take 2 QBs in 2013.
As for the injury point, Houston's situation was beyond weird. Put the Cougars aside (not something I do often) - what was the last time Michigan was forced to play its third-string QB as a result of injury (I'm not talking the Feagin experiment in 2008, or the "Gardner lesson" given to Tate last year)? 1985?
I still think 2008 should count, even if you discount the Feagin experiment. Chris Forcier was supposed to be a senior, but transferred when Mallett showed up and instantly passed him on the depth chart. Then Mallett transferred with the coaching change. Ideally Sheridan and Threet would have been third string (at best) QBs had they stuck around, but what happened happened and suddenly they were the best options Rodriguez had.
I doubt something like that would happen again, but if Bellomy doesn't like his spot on the depth chart when Morris shows up, and then Morris gets injured/transfers/bombs out/whatever, the depth chart could get interesting. I don't think an additional line on the depth chart to prevent that would hurt.
Chris is the one Forcier who never played for Michigan.
Crap, I meant Jason, don't know how I mixed that up. Swap the names, same still applies.
The earliest Morris gets to campus is January 2013, and the latest is June 2013. From what I can tell by looking at the calendar...well...I can't, actually, because they haven't made calendars for 2013 yet. He's anywhere from 18 months to 23 months away from arriving in Ann Arbor. Anything can happen between now and then, including changing his commitment or (I certainly hope not) a severe injury. We're all giddy about Jordan Payton decommitting from USC, but we ignore the possibility that it might happen to us.
Not taking a quarterback this year puts us in a very precarious position, especially with one QB who gets hurt 2/3 of the time and another QB who missed most of the year with...ahem...back problems.
...because Bellomy is the real deal.
I do actually like Bellomy, but three quarterbacks isn't enough, even if they're all studs.
Big bodies are far more important.
Yeah...the quarterback position isn't nearly as important as having 12 defensive ends...
Did I say that?
to turn away a 5* DT for a 4th string QB.
Pharaoh Brown: DE or backup QB or both?
I agree, it's important to get another QB.
QB is very important, though with our thin numbers on both lines, and there being so much talent out there, I don't want to turn away a stud DL/OL in order to take a 4th string QB. That's just my opinion, I of course will back UM with whatever they do.
Well, we have approximately 7 or 8 scholarships left to fill. If you add 2 more offensive linemen and 2 defensive tackles, that leaves 3 or 4 spots for positions that aren't important at all, such as quarterback.
under Hoke either...if Borges can't adjust (which I think he will - but if he doesn't) we need depth at QB. There is no surer way to 2008 than to tempt the fates.
Echoing the comments above, Mizzou's offense is a great fit for Mauk. My guess is that he'll do well there. I'd also be in favor of just tabling QB recruiting until the fall and seeing if someone moves up the charts or using that schollie on an extra DL/OL stud.
even though i wasnt a big fan of Mauk as a QB he wouldve made a good backup plan. Hopefully we can land Devin Fuller or a surprise QB later in the high school season
You dont go after kids expecting them to be a backup....although sometimes logic does. Wasn't the biggest Mauk fan, sucks to say it but that QB MSU got woulda been a nice option...if it still isn't
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Kiel rumored to be between Indiana and Missouri? Obviously this changes things for him if Missouri was his top choice. It sounded like Kiel has cut Alabama but now that this has happened, I bet Oklahoma is the favorite.
Missouri wasn't really a serious option for Kiel. The "front-runners" have always been Oklahoma, Alabama, Notre Dame, Indiana, and Michigan (to varying degrees of truth).
fuller or wait and see what the class looks like in November. too many 5 stars and high 4 stars still on our board, would rather have one of them instead of a 3 start project
I thought GK was thinking about Mizoo too, no? Wonder if it has any incremental impact on him and his decision. Can't see Kiel going to IU. I also amd starting to think Hoke is tempted to is starting to be tempted do the strange (break the QB a year pattern) and not take a QB this year if its not Kiel and then double up next year or the year after.
I thought for sure Kiel was Mizzou bound, also. If this happens, Oklahoma may be back in the mix and possibly Alabama again. But IIRC, he wanted to stay closer to home. Who knows with him -- he's tough to figure out.
It probably means Mizzou's out for him but nothing would really surprise me with Kiel. And I wouldn't count out Indiana so quickly; they're close to home, his brother plays there and Oklahoma's OC just became their head coach. All of that plus probable early playing time and there's a lot of reasons why he could choose Indiana.
Also, Rod Smith is your QB coach. Kiel could be the next Pat White.
think Indiana is a pretty likely destination at this point.
I can't see Gunner Kiel being afraid of competition from Maty Mauk. No offense to Mauk, but Kiel could commit go Mizzou and turn Mauk into a career backup if he wanted to.
of a spread 'n shred offense as RR runs. Ideal for Mauk, but I can't see Kiel buying into that kind of system. To your point I don't see Kiel shying away from competition either. Apparently he wouldn't compete with his brother, but still have a year or so with him at Indiana, but he likely wouldn't be fazed by Morris either. I wouldn't expect him to commit to a school that already has a qb in the 2012 class, though.
I'm still surprised that ND doesn't appear to be anywhere close to being on Kiel's list of finalists. Given that he's an Indiana kid and that he's got a family history there, I would have thought that ND would have been in his top 5. Given that Mizzou is one of his finalists, he doesn't appear to be adverse to playing in a spread.
But he's got a pretty solid career as a HC under his belt. He was at Toledo for a decade, had just one losing season, with 9-, 10- and 11-win seasons. Mizzou had been more or less moribund since Dan Devine was HC from '58 to '70, and Pinkel's three double-digit win seasons at Mizzou are the first since Devine had 11 in 1960. Yes, Pinkel struggled some in Columbia during the first several years, with two embarrassing losses to Bowling Green along the way, and his less-than-sparkling personality led some disgruntled Mizzou fans to call him Gary Pickle. Since then, perhaps as a result of his Texas recruiting efforts, things have gotten significantly better. Given the fact that the recruiting base in Missouri is not significant, it's hardly a criticism of him that he's dipped down into Texas for recruits. OK has been doing that forever.
Both my parents and my sister were MIzzou grads, my grandfather was a longtime physics professor there, and I spent many summer days in Columbia when I was a kid, so I always root for Missouri. I hope Mauk does well in Pinkel's offense.
The entire Big 12/10 runs on Texas athletes. Always has, always will, right up until the day the conference dissolves. You look at the rosters of Iowa State, Nebraska and Kansas St., it's going to be the same story: Texas athletes in unsuspected quantities. If Mizzou is recruiting Texas well, that's to Pincky's credit.
That's awesome news !
I'm beginning to feel that Shane is a basket, and we all know where the eggs are going...
Mauk visited today and then announced. (Mizzo is really pulling in an outstanding class).
In something completely unrelated...
Per Josh at Rivals, Kalis is "thinking" about bringing the family to U of M this weekend. hmmmm.
thread about this but it was deleted because Tom doesnt want us to speculate about it
He just wants to take them to BTB.
Bellomy is the key factor. Borges will get a chance this summer and fall to really see how talented he is and how quickly he picks up things. I really like the kid, but if he doesn't pan out, we could have a bad scenario in a few years if DG doesn't get his medical redshirt. We would have Morris as a redshirt Freshman, Bellomy and a true freshman. I'm also guessing that the true freshman might be difficult to recruit, since not many kids want to follow a 5* star QB.
If Bellomy doesn't look promising this fall, I bet they go after QB pretty hard in this class.