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Lions Ownership Discussing Firing Jim Schwartz
ESPN's Chris Mortenson (contradicting an earlier report by Michigan's own Adam Schefter) is reporting that Lions ownership is having discussions about firing Schwartz. They're reportedly concerned with the severe off the field image hit the team has taken of late, along with the obvious disappointment of finishing 4-12 after a playoff year. @ProFootballTalk: A week after Schefty said Jim Schwartz is safe, Mort says Schwartz could be fired http://t.co/ipOhrlr3 Personally, I'd just clean house and show Mayhew the door as well. Mayhew put this roster together, and has to shoulder as much blame as anyone. Also, if his draft record is to come into focus, he has clearly been unable to add starters in the secondary, line backing, or the offensive line. I think the playoff appearance last year masks a lot of porous drafting.
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December 30th, 2012 at 12:53 PM | They're 4-11 right now. I'm (Score:5 Normal)
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They're 4-11 right now. I'm assuming you're going with a loss to the bears today?



Not to mention all the injuries and inconsistent running game having an effect on the team.

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December 30th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Yeah (Score:5 Insightful)
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I'm assuming a loss to the bears today.

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:02 PM | As a Bears fan... (Score:2 Normal)
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...do not underestimate Chicago's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

That said, signs do point to a Bears win and a Calvin Johnson record, in which case I guess nobody leaves empty-handed.

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | The Lions' ability to snatch (Score:4 Normal)
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The Lions' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is quite impressive as well...

Avatar is a reference to this. Go Blue!

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:12 PM | Strength on strength...the (Score:5 Normal)
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Strength on strength...the irresistable force of losing with the immovable object of not winning.  A marquee matchup for sure.

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December 30th, 2012 at 7:21 PM | As is their ability to snatch defeat (Score:1)
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from the jaws of defeat

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:49 PM | This reminds me (Score:1)
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of the "Same 'Ole Spartans (SOS).  I know the Detroit and Lansing water supply is the one in the same.  So there is the tie in.  The Lions  err spartans are one in the sam.

Both have very good years then take a shit the next

Both have "off field" problems

Both have coaching staffs that are less than perfect

Both have leadership that is just plain inept

Both think they are "going places" and "wait until next year"

Both have a few good players that keep peoples interest; only to disappoint later

Both just dont know how to win.  Being a winner is a state of mind, its a place in space.  Winners will certainly lose a few games but they are always winners.  Lions err sparty always complains, always looking for excuses.

That is why I am proud to say that I have been Lions free for 5 years.  I go to counciling once a week to help me; but I am a better person for it.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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December 30th, 2012 at 12:55 PM | Just pointing it out (Score:5 Normal)
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Since when has a Ford made decision worked out for the Lions? Just sayin 

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | Since when has a Ford (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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made a decision that worked out for the auto company? I'm going to guess the Model T.

Flamebait Edit: uh oh, looks like I offended the UAW. Oh no!

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:16 PM | Ford was the only major (Score:5 Normal)
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Ford was the only major American car brand that did not need a bailout. (Though they did take 5.9 billion)

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December 30th, 2012 at 4:14 PM | American (Score:4 Normal)
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You can probably take out the word American too, we just don't hear a lot about Asian companies getting propped up by their respective governments.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/03/toyota-seeks-bailout-from_n_171...

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:20 PM | Ford was a bailout-by-proxy (Score:4 Normal)
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Would have been awfully hard for them to stay in business if all the major parts suppliers went under, which they would have but for Chrysler and GM staying afloat courtesy of the taxpayer.

Now, what was this thread about?  Oh yeah, the Lions.  Don't really care, never been a fan, don't know how Lions fans do it, frankly.

"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:39 PM | while i 100% agree with your (Score:2)
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while i 100% agree with your sentiment, i think inthebluelot's point was not a knock against ford motor per se but perhaps the ford family.

 

that being said, i think tagg's response pretty much sums it up...

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December 30th, 2012 at 4:23 PM | About 5-6 years ago (Score:5 Normal)
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When then CEO (and A2 resident) Bill Ford Jr. decided he was not the right man to lead Ford Motor Company and hired Alan Mullaly to engineer their turn around. You can go even further back to when Henry Ford II bought the Lions for William Clay Ford to keep him away from Ford Motor in the 1960's. Bill Jr. has the humility to actually help the Lions by finding the right person to lead and not be a yes man to him. 

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | plus 1 (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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for any comment that pisses off the UAW

 

Neg me bro..don't care.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:45 PM | You are not alone (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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No bro, pos all the way.

The only thing you learn from history is that you never learn from history.

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December 31st, 2012 at 12:41 AM | :-) (Score:1 Normal)
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Go Blue!

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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December 31st, 2012 at 7:53 PM | That is all (Score:0 Overrated)
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that matters.  Screw the "Fiscal cliff".  Lets all hold hands and jump over the cliff together and scream GO BLUE on the way down.

From the Red Cedar Message Board:  "God hates us."  Yes He does Lil Bro, yes he does.  Everyone hates you.

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:53 PM | you may have just won... (Score:-1 Overrated)
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an all-expenses paid trip to bolivia

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December 30th, 2012 at 6:24 PM | Come on gentlemen... (Score:0 Overrated)
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and lady, obviously, let's remember that there are Michigan faithful who love the UAW, hate it, and everything in between. Let's keep those opinions reserved for other venues and use MGoBlog for Michigan love, Ohio hate and of course cat pictures.

Go Blue!

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December 30th, 2012 at 7:26 PM | Like this ;) (Score:4 Normal)
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December 31st, 2012 at 12:44 AM | -1 flaimbait (Score:-1 Trolling)
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Lets not forget that there are some people here that hate cats, and some that love cats. I am the owner of 3 dogs who would eat any cat it could, and I still find that photo personally offensive and politically incorrect. Please! Use some common decency when posting your cat pic.

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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December 31st, 2012 at 3:35 PM | Why do you assume she's a last? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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Lots if gay guys call themselves mom and wife. We can't be sure.

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December 30th, 2012 at 4:53 PM | excellent point (Score:0 Overrated)
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they keep Schwartz or not, they will still make the stupidest decision possible. 

 

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December 30th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | please may this happen, along (Score:0 Overrated)
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please may this happen, along with linehan and gunther and crossman going.,,,,keep shawn jefferson....cut raiola, peterman, backus, burleson. KVB, ...trade pettitgrew and titus young.....do not resign any free agent but sammie lee hill and franchise chris houston....

and mayhew and lewand both need to go as well

 

clean house

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:58 PM | Clueless.  The Lions have (Score:5 Normal)
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Clueless.  The Lions have lost a lot of close games this year with their receiver corps in shambles, and Schwartz is the only coach in 20 years to do anything in Detroit.  To fire him would be ridiculous.

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | William Clay is that you? (Score:3 Normal)
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Typical delusional Lions fan. This team is an absolute mess and last year was a mirage. If you think this team is headed in the right direction under the current leadership then you deserve this joke of a team.

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December 30th, 2012 at 3:26 PM | He thinks going 18 and 30 in (Score:2)
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He thinks going 18 and 30 in 48 games plus all of the off field issues is good? I'm confused...

GO BLUE

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December 31st, 2012 at 1:16 AM | You said it! (Score:0 Flamebait)
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It's like people who buy a Ford and then bitch because its a POS vehicle when they knew that in the first place. Stupid is as stupid does... Mamma always used to say.

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December 30th, 2012 at 3:42 PM | I'm guessing all of these (Score:0 Overrated)
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I'm guessing all of these people commenting on how the Lions shouldn't fire Schwartz aren't Lion fans. If you watch them play every week, you'll know why people want him out.

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December 30th, 2012 at 12:58 PM | A firing?  Gee, I thought (Score:5 Normal)
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A firing?  Gee, I thought they'd be discussing contract extension.

/s (sort of)

Michigan Resurgent?  Michigan Resurgent!

The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | Mayhew was Millen's right hand man (Score:5 Normal)
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Not sure why anyone thought anything would be different.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:00 PM | would be hilarious (Score:5 Normal)
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if the lions fired schwartz and hired o'brien, which would be a dagger in the hearts of the PSU faithful.

No radio. Nothing of value.

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:16 PM | It would be even funnier if (Score:5 Normal)
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It would be even funnier if they hire Urban Meyer.

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:56 PM | Wait... (Score:0 Normal)
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If Urban Meyer is our coach, does that mean we get Tebow to?

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:57 PM | TOO. TEBOW TOO. MY GOD. (Score:5 Normal)
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TOO. TEBOW TOO. MY GOD.

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:59 PM | Which grammatical error is (Score:4 Normal)
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Which grammatical error is more of a dagger?

definAtely

their/there/they're butchery

too/to

 

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:05 PM | Commas (Score:0 Overrated)
FreeTheFabFivePlz
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Joined: 03/08/2011
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Nothing worse than incorrect placement  of commas.

So hot.  Milk was a bad choice.

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:10 PM | Is, that such a, big deal? (Score:2 Normal)
Mmmm Hmmm
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Is, that such a, big deal?

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:44 PM | William Shatner, is that you? (Score:5 Normal)
Undefined
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William Shatner, is that you?

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December 30th, 2012 at 2:48 PM | I would expect the answer, (Score:1 Overrated)
MGoneBlue
Joined: 05/30/2011
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I would expect the answer, considering the flagrant, unapologetic, and unceasing misuse of commas, Oxford and otherwise, being so rampant, to be yes.

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December 30th, 2012 at 4:21 PM | I hate unnecessary (Score:2)
mgobleu
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I hate unnecessary uphostrophe's.

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December 30th, 2012 at 5:33 PM | Dominate vs dominant. (Score:2)
The Barwis Effect
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Dominate vs dominant.

"[T]here were a lot of people predicting glorious heights for Rich; mostly the same people who are predicting doom and gloom [for Hoke]. Excuse me if I doubt their prognostication skills." -- M-Wolverine

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December 30th, 2012 at 7:23 PM | Neither. (Score:2)
TTUwolverine
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Your/You're.  I am trying really hard not to break my keyboard as I finish this sentence. 

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December 30th, 2012 at 10:01 PM | Ohioans (Score:2 Normal)
Picktown GoBlue
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Who don't say "to be" - "The floor needs swept." Argh..

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December 30th, 2012 at 7:33 PM | Maybe he just forgot to finish the sentence (Score:0 Overrated)
Muttley
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"...does that mean we get Tebow to start at quarterback?"

hehe...causes trouble & slinks away

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December 30th, 2012 at 9:04 PM | What do you want? (Score:3 Normal)
timtebro
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?

You're HIV-Aladeen.

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:03 PM | When will Lions ownership (Score:5 Normal)
FreddieMercuryHayes
Joined: 12/29/2010
MGoPoints: 4890

When will Lions ownership have discussions about firing themselves? The only common link in all of your dysfunctional relationships is you.

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December 30th, 2012 at 1:57 PM | Exactly (Score:2 Normal)
Wave83
Joined: 03/09/2011
MGoPoints: 544

Exactly.  I am 51 years old and William Clay Ford has mismanaged the Lions for my entire life.  The team needs to be sold to someone in Detroit and they need to re-evaluate the staff.

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December 30th, 2012 at 7:25 PM | Hah. (Score:3 Normal)
TTUwolverine
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How many billionaires do you think there are in Detroit these days?  If that team gets sold, it's going to Los Angeles.

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