An LB is out 6 weeks with an injury

Submitted by Streetchemist on
Various message board chatter this morning has mentioned a linebacker is out 6 weeks with an injury. Sam Webb has mentioned it not being one that started last Saturday but one that played a lot. That narrows it down to Ross, Morgan, or RJS. If there's one place we can sustain an injury it's at LB but I hate seeing this right before the ND game.

LSAClassOf2000

September 2nd, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^

As a note to the OP, for board management purposes, it's easier if threads like this - particularly when it involves injury - come with the news itself because once it is announced we then have two threads where there perhaps could have been just one. Just a minor point, but the aim is to have as little overlapping coverage as possible to maximize the amount of unique news on the boards. 

charblue.

September 2nd, 2014 at 12:21 PM ^

because this is the internet and speculation is rampantly assumed to have some origin in fact even if the reality of the fact is hard to discern. 

I watched a  BTN report on an injury to starting Dend on Nebraska in which Pelini was asked to update his condition. And Pelini then explained  the reason why he was removed in the first half and not returned to the lineup was the flareup of a prio injury problem which was then fixed at the half

But it was decided to keep him out for precautionary reasons and that he would likely miss the next game and be available in two weeks against Fresno State. 

Then, just as this report was completed, a crawl ran under a studio shot, saying that the player underwent surgery on Monday and didn't indicate how long he would be out. 

During Monday's presser, there were no reports of Saturday injuries except a few comments related to Pepper's condition, which were either positive about his availability Saturday for ND but hardly informative or specific in their nature, and clearly permits the kind of speculation that goes on here in the wake of injuries being hidden by schools and coaches for specific reasons. And we can debate whether this should happen, but clearly it does. 

What I am saying is that unless this forum has a policy on this kind of debate, these threads ought to specifically acknowledge what they are, and not purport to be something else. Because teams allow this kind of floating chatter to occur based on their internal news filtering. 

 

Captain

September 2nd, 2014 at 2:00 PM ^

There are many legitimate reasons for not wanting to indulge an injury thread where we lack the injured player's identity, but 'avoiding overlapping coverage' really isn't one of them. If half a dozen lemon eating threads could be left to stand, certainly the board can withstand a breaking news report on a player's injury and subsequent report on the player's identity. 

Streetchemist

September 2nd, 2014 at 11:34 AM ^

Yeah, the actual name would have been better but I waited over 30 minutes to post thinking it would revealed by then. I thought the news was important enough to post without 1 name but with a few names. Edit. Supposed to be in reply to LSA

mgobaran

September 2nd, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

I stand in the "please don't post message board chatter without hardcore evidence or substance (i.e. who the person actually is injured)" crowd.

A post like this causes speculation, and is basically allowing for posters to say I would rather PLAYER A be hurt than PLAYER B. Which is not nice. It also is a good way for people to get worried for no reason.

Idk. If the news is concrete, an actual release will be made, and it will make it to the board. Then people can react. No need to get the scoop, if that means supplying incomplete information. Not that I can blame you. News channels do this all the time.

Gucci Mane

September 2nd, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

Why do some of you guys act that if a guy is our 6 weeks they are going to be a full contributor on that 6th week ? If someone truly is out 6 weeks they will not be the same the rest of the year. Depending on if it's true and who it is, a medical redshirt would be smart.

reshp1

September 2nd, 2014 at 12:46 PM ^

Fuck. I'm going to pre-empt Brian's UFR here: Morgan was much better than Bolden, and probably better than Ryan when he played MLB as well. Hopefully Bolden just had some first game jitters, but he was still showing hesitation and not tackling or initiating contact with blockers with much authority.

The upside is, not being a leg injury, he'll still be able to stay in shape and participate in non-contact drills and walk-throughs, so he should be close to game ready as soon as he's medically cleared.

 

VBSoulPole

September 2nd, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^

The use of an indefinite article with regards to an abbreviation or an acronym is really dependent on the reader. If you read that phonetically as "An linebacker" then you clearly prefer a over an. If you read as "An ell bee" then an is appropriate. What it really comes down to is whether LB is meant to be read as "ell bee" or "linebacker". I'm not sure there's a definitive rule for that. Happy grammar nazi-ing!

Mr Miggle

September 2nd, 2014 at 1:49 PM ^

There's a difference between abbreviations and acronyms. "A Mr". is correct because you are supposed to pronounce the whole word, not try to sound out an abbreviation. "An NCAA" is likewise correct, because acronyms are pronounced by sounding out the individual letters. If you as a reader want to say linebacker when you read LB, then say it with an a. Just realize that you're translating what's written, not correcting it.

 

Raoul

September 2nd, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^

Just to clarify, not all acronyms are pronounced by sounding out all the letters—for example, NASA. Whether you should use "a" or "an" depends entirely on how the acronym or abbreviation is pronounced. So it would be "an NCAA" but "a NASA."

In regard to LB, do people really call linebackers "LBs" in the same way quarterbacks are called QBs? I think LB is fine for tables and charts and that sort of thing where abbreviations are common, but for headlines/thread titles, why not just spell the word out? "An LB"—while technically correct—does strike me as odd just because it's not a common way to speak about a linebacker. (Not saying it should be "a LB"—just that it would be better to use "a linebacker.")

nowayman

September 2nd, 2014 at 6:03 PM ^

An NCAA member 

versus

A NASA member

However, the pronunciation of "LB" as an acronym isn't really up for dispute.  It's pronounced "El" "Be."  

Distinguishing between different sounding acronyms (in which one is pronounced by the letters and the other in which the "word" is sounded out) doesn't really clarify whether you should use an "an" for "LB" or an "a" for "LB" based on the fact that it's either read as "linebacker" or "El" "Be."

For NASA to work as precedent we'd have to be pronouncing "LB" as "Lee" "bah" (or "Lib").

I'm sure there is some rule out there for acronyms that are treated as abbreviations but I have yet to read it.  

And at this point it's fair to say that I have wasted my day.  

Thanks, English.  

 

jtmc33

September 2nd, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^

Ferns did not play... nor did the other three true Fr. LBs

Cole, Peppers, Canteen and Mone were the only ones to get out there.

UM had a lot of starters on special teams (rather than the slew of freshman like recent past).

 

alum96

September 2nd, 2014 at 1:40 PM ^

Higher on the page someone said Ferns did not even dress so he may be injured as well.  Furbush also didn't dress. We still have McCray and Gant before we need to be breaking out freshmen unless Winovich is somehow better than guys on campus a few years.