Jimmy King's New Plan to Get the Fab Five's Banners Put Back Up

Submitted by BursleyHall82 on

Jimmy King said on a podcast yesterday that he's working with the University to put together some sort of roundtable to discuss what it will take to get the Fab Five's banners put back up.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wol…

Good luck to him.

Do we still think that if Webber apologized, they'd go back up the next day?

Truthbtold

April 4th, 2016 at 9:30 AM ^

Why would UM want to show pride in a corrupt team that broke the rules ? I realize that UM only pretends to have high standards, but this would be something not even The U would do. Then again, everyone already knows who and what UM really is, so I guess it won't change anything to go ahead and show it. Anyone with any knowledge of UM athletics knows that UM has been paying players since the 1800's. In Fact UM may very well be the school that invented the paid player. At least UM is first in something

UMfan21

April 4th, 2016 at 9:48 AM ^

you are aware that Bullock, Taylor and Traylor were not in the Fab Five right? and nobody is advocating we hang their Big Ten Tourney Champ banner.

BursleyBaitsBus

April 4th, 2016 at 2:01 AM ^

I don't buy that for one second. Look at how many schools that have "self-punished" themselves in order to get leniency from the NCAA. They're all fine now. 

Michigan went above and beyond those laughable measures and ended up really damaging the basketball program for a long time. 

Big mistake in retrospect. 

hopkinsdrums

April 4th, 2016 at 9:56 AM ^

Personally, even though it sucks, I'd rather be a school that reacts in the appropriate way than a school that "cheats the system" to get out of further punishment. The bottom line is that they played ineligible players, and that's against the rules.

That being said, if, in theory, the NCAA were any kind of actual, working, competent institution, it would be nice if there were some collaborative effort to make a compromise...but that will never happen.

Sigh...

rob f

April 4th, 2016 at 10:39 PM ^

Captain Kangaroo actually wore a Navy blue coat from when the show first started in 1955 .  Problem is, the show was televised in black and white until 1967.  The change to a red coat coincided with the move from the "Treasure House "  to "The Captain's place, which also happened in '71.

Need proof he was a Michigan fan?  Here's the Captain with Tom Terrific:

...and with the rest of his gang:

 

Captain Kangaroo >>>>>>>>>Mr. Rogers

Human Torpedo

April 4th, 2016 at 12:32 AM ^

we vacated the two games of the final four in 1992. It was outside the 4 year statute of limitations rule when the investigation started in 1996. I've never seen a school do that before: vacated part of a NCAA tourney run but not all of it. I've seen just the tourney appearance vacated but our sanctions were truly unique in how it affected the official record books for us. In that case, maybe the Fab Five can still somehow lobby for an elite eight banner for that year, but I guess that would of be like rewarding mediocrity 

UMfan21

April 4th, 2016 at 12:44 AM ^

I kind of touched on this in my reply, but MSC came down hard on the self imposed sanctions with the belief that it would spare us the death penalty or other severe NCAA punishments. in that regard maybe it was a success. but in the 25 years since, I have seen schools skate by with much less. in retrospect I think she was a little too harsh.

JWolve

April 4th, 2016 at 12:35 AM ^

Instead of hanging it from the rafters, create a display around the concourse (haven't been to crysler in a while, but like in one of those glass case displays). As part of the display, include a short bit on the ncaa sanctions. That is a more powerful message than trying to pretend that either the sanctions or the Fab 5 never happened....

UMfan21

April 4th, 2016 at 12:39 AM ^

I'm probably in the minority, but I would NY mind them being put up. yeah, it was a huge black eye for the program, and it was absolutely cheating. however, I look at the cheating that goes on today, the hypocrasies, the way schools like OSU get a wrist slap then welcome Tressel back... I think MSC made the right call at the time. however things have changed and in hindsight we probably were heavy handed with our self imposed sanctions. put the banners up. bury the hatchet. welcome the guys back and it's the last we have to rehash this old topic.

The Mad Hatter

April 4th, 2016 at 12:41 AM ^

Especially in comparison to the shit that other schools get away with. Rehang the banners. Right now. We won those games. You shouldn't be able to erase history just because it's a little ugly.

Bando Calrissian

April 4th, 2016 at 10:41 AM ^

At the time, largest financial scandal in college athletics history. A scandal that continued after the NCAA was already in town. This isn't a case of "but other schools get away with it!" Michigan didn't. The program got rightfully punished, just as we would expect other schools to be, whether they are or not. To backtrack on that is a total no-integrity move.

In other words, take your take and reevaluate.

The Mad Hatter

April 4th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^

I guess I just don't see paying players as that big of a deal.   I think academic misdeeds (UNC) and covering up criminal activity (PSU) are much, much worse.

But then again I'm not a fan of vacating wins as a punishment under any circumstances.  Even for PSU.  You want to dock scholarships or ban post-season play, fine.  But those games happened, even if a player took some money.

 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

April 4th, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^

Yeah, I agree.  It's hard to get past the idea that what we saw didn't actually happen.  Besides that it's not even remotely a deterrent.  The school has already reaped all the positive attention and benefits from winning whatever they won.

Instead of vacating, they should put asterisks in the record books, count your asterisked and un-asterisked wins, and then make it one fucking hell of a lot harder to win in the future.  Far more extensive scholarship reductions, loss of home games, and take the wraps off the death penalty.  And none of this Penn State "aw, you guys did good for a couple years, you can get out of jail now" bullshit.  I think UNC should get the death penalty for their scandal, for example.  I think Miami with the Nevin Shapiro thing should've been forced to play a year or two entirely on the road.