Jim Harbaugh Has Passed Lloyd Carr in Overall Winning Percentage
I was curious about the coaching records and thought others might be interested as well...
With the Minnesota win, Harbaugh has now moved ahead of Carr in overall winning percentage (although he still trails in conference winning percentage).
Schembechler: Overall .796 Conference .855
Moeller: Overall .758 Conference 775
Harbaugh: Overall .755 Conference .761
Carr: Overall .753 Conference .779
He is also very close to passing Moeller. Winning the next two games would push him ahead, making him the winningest coach since Schembechler.
Enjoy the good times. Hopefully, the contract will get done and we can enjoy for many more years!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_Wolverines_head_football_coaches
October 9th, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^
Wowza!!!!!! Yee haw. Willickers!!!
October 9th, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
good golly!
October 9th, 2023 at 5:05 PM ^
good gosh almighty!
October 10th, 2023 at 1:14 AM ^
I don't understand how this is possible! His record since 2021 is a dismal 31-3.
October 9th, 2023 at 8:30 PM ^
I just have to say, Harbaugh is perhaps the greatest football human being ever to live. When you look at his success as a player and coach, it's simply unrivaled. He has been successful in all 4 of the possible phases, college player, pro player, college coach, pro coach. No one else has ever done that. Really, no one else has even been successful in more than two of those ways. Certainly many as players at both levels. But precious few as players at both levels and a coach at even one. Maybe Spurrier. But no one who was a Heisman finalist, a 15-year pro QB, ranked 5th in NFL all-time coaching winning pct, and about to take UM to the national championship. There is no one who has ever been like Harbaugh.
October 9th, 2023 at 9:14 PM ^
If you take his nuts out of your mouth you might be able to say it as well as you write it!
Sorry. I had to. You're Bushwood!
October 9th, 2023 at 9:48 PM ^
Really, no one else has even been successful in more than two of those ways.
A little too soon to crown him, but Deion Sanders is definitely making a case for being successful in 3 of those ways. I think his case is pretty clear as both a college and pro player, and I would argue his career as a college football coach has been successful. Whether it can be legendary, similar to his playing career, remains to be seen - but bringing relevance to a HBCU to the point where they are securing commitments from 5 star recruits and turning around the biggest dumpster fire in P5 within 1 year are tremendous first steps.
October 10th, 2023 at 7:31 AM ^
Too early. I'm not convinced he isn't just a flashier PJ Fleck. A football CEO with the ultimate gravitas. Do it year after year at something like FSU and I'll be a believer. He's got to at least win a major conference title once. And, while I appreciate your point about HBCU's, that isn't really about him being a coach on the level of Harbaugh. It's about him being a larger than life personality.
October 10th, 2023 at 8:45 AM ^
"Whether it can be legendary, similar to his playing career, remains to be seen..."
What about this says that he's already made it? All you're doing here is pissing on a coach you decided you don't like by taking away everything he's done that shows promise.
October 10th, 2023 at 9:15 AM ^
It seems to me that Bushwood is talking about accomplishments, not promise.
October 10th, 2023 at 1:16 PM ^
Yeah, he truly is a special person. Crazy how close he was to a Super Bowl win. Making Stanford the team it was, and also taking Michigan to this level, are amazing. Like others have said, enjoy it while we are in it, because this will too pass. Special time, with a special coach.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^
It's only a matter of time before he passes Bo. To think we were close to firing this guy is scary.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:23 PM ^
It's hard to know what the future will hold with college football. Look at Alabama this year - their QB is good, but not elite, and they're having a down year. But if Michigan wins 14 this year (Jim would win 11), then they went 12-2 for the next three years, he'd pass Bo.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:41 PM ^
Jim would win 11
Not true. UM (or Jim?) has the option of whether to credit a suspended coach for wins/losses.
October 9th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
Well I think they should credit him because he deserves the credit for the wins, he was at practice all week, after all.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
Why are we only winning 14 games this year when we will play 15?
October 9th, 2023 at 5:35 PM ^
Cyan Day calls a forfeit when we rematch them in the playoff. Its tough to round third base sometimes.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:46 PM ^
Saban's set his bar so high at Alabama that a 'down' year for him would be a good to great year at most schools. They're 5-1 and the ranked opponents they have left are Tennesse, LSU and Kentucky. It's not that farfetched to see them going 11-1.
October 9th, 2023 at 5:22 PM ^
I'm guessing Alabama finishes 10 - 2 with a loss to LSU. LSU will probably be able to score on Alabama and I'm not sure Alabama will be able to keep up assuming LSU's defense is better than Ol' Miss.
Alabama would still make the SEC championship game with only one conference loss in the West which means they would have a chance to make the playoffs, despite 2 losses, if they win the SEC.
That would create an interesting scenario with all of the other one loss teams to fill 3 CFP spots from: one loss Big 12 Champ Texas if they win out, SEC runner-up Georgia, Pac-12 Champ USC with their loss to Utah, ACC champ FSU who will lose to somebody, and no conference title again OSU.
October 9th, 2023 at 5:30 PM ^
"Assuming LSU's defense is better than Ol' Miss"?
Dude, do you even watch college football?
October 9th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^
That's not how the percentages work. Right now Jim is 53-17 for a .755 winning percentage. Jim would need to with next 14 BIG TEN games in a row for a record of 67-17 for a winning percentage of .797 to pass Bo. Not that anyone would complain about winning another 14 BIG TEN games in a row. That would mean going undefeated this year and winning the first 8 games in 2024...
If he makes it that far, he might as well win the last one in 2024 to complete the steamroll... 4 BIG TEN TITLES in a row...
EDIT: Updated the records to reflect BIG TEN record only...
October 10th, 2023 at 9:01 AM ^
Bama has won nattys with non-elite QBs.
October 9th, 2023 at 5:58 PM ^
I've already taken my lumps but I'm glad to be wrong still.
Not sure what exactly clicked after the 2020 season, but it just seems like the program culture is much better.
We dont have a bunch of transfers anymore, and we dont have guys seemingly ready to get out of here as fast as possible even if they were only a 3-6 round pick.
A lot of Harbaughs early teams remind me of OSU the last couple years, really talented but seem lack the extra gear, or maybe TOUGHNESS.
October 9th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
Nothing "clicked" after 2020, you idiot.
Harbaugh took a dumpster fire of a team and won 10 games in 2015 and won another 10 in 2016. In fact, he was one bad spot away from the college football playoff in year 2. Yes, year 3 was a down year but 2018 was very good as well.
It was obvious he was the right choice all along. That it took him a bit longer to get up to speed with Ohio State was no big deal as they were literally at their peak when Harbaugh took over.
No serious person ever wanted Harbaugh fired.
October 10th, 2023 at 10:59 AM ^
I don't think it was necessary to call him an idiot ... a little aggressive there, no?
October 9th, 2023 at 7:31 PM ^
When you say "we were close to firing this guy..." you mean the vocal minority on this here blog???
October 10th, 2023 at 8:50 AM ^
It was more than a "vocal minority"! It was at least 60-40, and probably more like 70-30 in favor of changing ways. And I say that as one of the 'changing ways' types... The amount of revisionist history going on around here the last few years rivals the Congressional Record!
October 10th, 2023 at 9:29 AM ^
Comment volume is not indicative of popular support.
October 19th, 2023 at 6:14 PM ^
Basically proving my point....
October 10th, 2023 at 9:54 AM ^
Harbaugh would have to win 19 straight I think, to pass Bo
He'll have to exceed 80% win percentage for a few years in a row to gain ground. That's a tall order with the upcoming landscape of the Pac-12 teams joining the conference and our brutal schedule next year
October 9th, 2023 at 4:16 PM ^
When he passes Lloyd’s 1997 win percentage, I’ll defecate my trousers…
October 9th, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^
That could be dangerous in clown pants.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:36 PM ^
Or easier to blame on someone else?
October 9th, 2023 at 5:39 PM ^
We all float down here (in his trousers)
October 9th, 2023 at 4:56 PM ^
I think your trousers are safe.
How could he win more than they play?
October 9th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
In case folks were curious about other names (note this is data is missing the most recent win over Minnesota)
October 9th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
because inquiring minds will want to know
October 9th, 2023 at 8:45 PM ^
(78+x)/(103+x)>.796. Find the smallest x where x is a positive integer.
78+x>.796*103+.796x
.204x>3.941
x>19.277
x is 20. 20 straight wins to move ahead of Bo in all time percentage. And any losses in there make it a lot longer. 6 regular season. BTCG. National champs. First 11 games in 2024 then why not add 4 more for good measure?
October 10th, 2023 at 7:36 AM ^
The depressing thing about this list, is that Urban Meyer has a higher winning percentage than even Yost.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:24 PM ^
so...... Jim is just like Lloyd, only winninger?
October 10th, 2023 at 9:03 AM ^
You just proved that anything can be Fred Jacksoned.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^
Wait until our next coach goes wins his first game and passes them all.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^
Moore and Minter can already lay claim to that feat.
October 9th, 2023 at 4:57 PM ^
How about Hart and Jay? Do they get 50% each or 0% each?
October 10th, 2023 at 9:32 AM ^
1/2 a win and 0 losses or ties is still 100% winning%!
October 9th, 2023 at 4:38 PM ^
Jim, please sign a long-term contract and mark an era in Michigan where you are the best coach of all time! Go Blue!
October 9th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
Pay everyone Ward!!!
October 9th, 2023 at 5:42 PM ^
-- Copied from the salary thread --
I made the statement on the second page and I want to make it here. Michigan attempting to make Jim the highest paid coach in college football is important. Often, Jim has communicated wanting to be wanted by his employer as loyalty is important to him. Loyalty must be shown not just communicated and he showed it to us when he was willing to take a pay cut after a sub-par season that frankly was out his hands.
Jim is rich and there may be some who argue that he doesn't need the money and a prestigious university shouldn't be paying twelve million dollars plus for a football coach. However, the point is not the money but to show Coach Harbaugh that is he is more important to us than Saban is to Alabama or even Mel Tucker to MSU. There is always the possibility that Jim donates the money back to the school or asks for less but let him be the one to make that choice. Michigan should be demonstrating absolute loyalty to him in the form of a truly generous offer.
Coach Harbaugh has made these last three years extremely enjoyable for us as fans and it would be wonderful if we could lock him up for the next 10 plus years and see him retire as Michigan's all time winningest coach. Pay the man! He should not be the highest paid coach in the Big 10 but all of college football.
October 9th, 2023 at 8:32 PM ^
Tl; dr
It’s not about the money. It’s about what the money says.