"I Don't Know Why You Say Goodbye, I Say Hello": SDSU to Remain in the Mountain West

Submitted by rob f on July 19th, 2023 at 12:51 PM

The more things change...

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38032484/san-diego-state-remains-member-mountain-west-sides-resolve-dispute

...they sometimes remain the same.  

It looks like the mountains are still preferable after all, for the Aztecs of San Diego State.  What may have looked in the past like the sweet green grass across the fence, apparently is now but scorched earth.  

How much longer will it be until the death and burial of the PAC?

Dunder

July 19th, 2023 at 2:47 PM ^

I protest, this protest, the Beatles lyrics only meant the entire post should have been lyrically themed: 

 

The times they are a changin'

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38032484/san-diego-state-remains-member-mountain-west-sides-resolve-dispute

but... The Song Remains the Same  

Ain't no mountain high enough, ain't no valley low enough to get SDSU to move.

This is the End, for the Pac... 

superstringer

July 19th, 2023 at 1:27 PM ^

Pac12 (now 10) apparently are going to announce "soon" a TV rights deal that includes a Grant of Rights.  It'll apparently include streaming options.

Reading between the lines:  SDSU thought they had an offer from the Pac12 b/c Colorado had its bags packed, a foot out the door, an Uber waiting, and a "Dear You Other Nine Johns" letter already penned and sitting on the coffee table.  Then CU got an offer it couldn't refuse, the Pac12 is circling the wagons, and SDSU needed to U-turn quickly.

the Glove

July 19th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^

So soon that they're not going to announce a media deal at the Pac-12 conference meetings. There still is a potential for the death of their conference. Colorado does not have to rush to leave the pac until an official deal is shown. So as you put, the note might be still sitting on the coffee table. 

superstringer

July 19th, 2023 at 1:27 PM ^

Dreaded double post.  Believe this is my first one in a decade, so... I am ok with that.

I will take the free opportunity to say, in my best Logan Roy voice:  "F@#$ Off!"

Don

July 19th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^

I don't think this news merits its own post, but it's interesting nonetheless:

https://twitter.com/tab_delete/status/1681714003771260932?s=20

 

Blau

July 19th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^

From a MWC school grad perspective: I think the most likely scenario involving the PAC-? and MWC is a conference pillage and consolidation of sorts.

I really feel there is no way a MWC team will truly be considered for any type of national prominence (football specifically) except for a once-in-a-decade Boise St. type of deal. And even then, they would need to be the highest-ranked G5 team to get an auto-bid because I doubt the next remaining 6 seeds aren't coming from the G5.

The PAC 12 is set to lose USC and UCLA next year along with CU and possibly Utah purchasing houses in Big 12 territory soon. Those events would leave them with 8 teams if (big if) nobody looks for greener pastures.

I could see them settling for a mix of MWC media market schools in top locations (San Diego St., San Jose St., UNLV/Nevada, and Colorado St./AF) and cherry-picking Boise St. and maybe Wyoming for shits and giggles.

16 teams for P5 conferences seems to be the sweet spot with 80 teams total. Any conferences or teams not in that cut should then just form their own league with their own playoff/championship so their seasons don't end in meaningless bowl game. 

Lastly, and a little OT: Bowl games will need to start being incentivized from a win/loss standpoint once the CFP expansion takes hold. How? I don't really know but I can see smaller playoff-type tournaments happening of 4, 6 or 8 teams with bowl locations partnering together for teams that end the season with .500% records. The CFB world needs to come to the conclusion that bowl games are just not a draw anymore, especially to the casual viewer without a win or go home scenario. Personally, I'll watch just about any sporting event when the stakes are higher.

Harlans Haze

July 19th, 2023 at 3:01 PM ^

Maybe that's why the PAC is holding their media days in Las Vegas this year? Not sure how long in advance it was planned, but it seems a little strange holding your media days in a city in which you don't actually have a team, granted Vegas can be a destination for most anything. But, after losing the LA teams, it makes sense to put stakes down in Las Vegas, Reno, San Diego, any other possible market in the region. It will be interesting to see what the media deal is. I can't imagine any major playing making a commitment without any plans for additional expansion in place. 

superstringer

July 19th, 2023 at 3:16 PM ^

To the contrary... reports this week about the Pac12 being ready to finalize TV deals (within the next week, but not before Friday's Pac12 meetings) say, the conference thinks having 10 teams is BETTER than 16, in a world of 12 playoff teams.  So while the Pac12 would need to backfill if CU or Zona leaves, they might not be tempted to raid the MWC or WAC to get up to 16.

Blue Vet

July 19th, 2023 at 3:10 PM ^

So they couldn't get word on the PAC TV deal in time for the Mtn. West deadline.

Timing is . . .

. . . uh . . .

. . . I forget . . .

. . . it'll come to me . . .

. . . something?

Amazinblu

July 19th, 2023 at 3:22 PM ^

MaizeGoBlue

July 19th, 2023 at 8:00 PM ^

This is only temporary  Once any of the Pac 12 teams leave SDSU will be invited and will accept... this is just UNTIL that happens which wont be much longer