How about showing some support????
Could some of you stop acting like everything is a total wash and acting like the season is actually f'n over?
This defense just held a team to -8 yards rushing.
How about Smith getting 18 caries for 121 yards (6.7avg)
Yes, the offensive performance as a whole was pretty terrible. DG was at his worst.
Do you remember what he did last year? He's broken, He is now getting some recovery time. How about we hope that he DOES get that recovery in just for HIS sake? It's not his fault he's more banged up than any QB I've ever seen, and still manages to go out on the field so you can bitch about him.
I think there has been improvement, and we just have a QB that needs to have time to repair... Never count him out, especially after last year. We owe it to this team to support them the last two games instead of mocking which bowl game they may go to.
With the hits he has taken and what he's been through, i'm sick of hearing about it. Devin has shown he has the ability to make magic happen, that he has the heart to make it happen, and goddammit I am sick of not hearing about any GLIMMER of fucking hope that we could be the absolute spoiler to their season.
It was down to one play... Don't you think this kid wants payback? Don't you have a little bit of faith in this defense to be prepared for what is the most important game of their last year (This game is more improtant than any bowl we could end up in)
We're going to go through a coaching change, we aren't going to win any championships, but imagine any other QB dealing with the pressure DG has dealt with. I'll tell you what it looks like. (See: Shane Morris)
November 10th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
Ok, come clean Colonel, are you a Buckeye Fan or a Sparty Fan?
November 10th, 2014 at 10:25 AM ^
The Colonel is fan of water sports only.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:17 AM ^
Brady's fate is sealed anyway.
November 10th, 2014 at 3:57 PM ^
He didn't say the majority, he said some people. And some people certainly do want this team to lose so they can get rid of Hoke. I heard the same nonsense about RR.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:31 AM ^
Uh, no.
November 10th, 2014 at 11:12 AM ^
How do you know this? Can you link one post where someone indicated they want us to lose just so Hoke loses his job? Especially since even if we win, Hoke is gone? Hoke's job this year has been so brutally awful that even a win vs Ohio won't save his job. He is gone.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:27 AM ^
Keep fighting to hold onto your job as long as you can.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:27 AM ^
We have a good defense and a terrible offense. The problems with the offense are numerous. Our skill position players are slow and lack the explosiveness of teams like OSU. Many of the skill position players we do have are banged up (Green, Funchess, Norfleet, Harris) or ineligible this year (Isaac). Our quarterbacks are a disaster. The scheme doesn't make up for any of these faults with its creativity. And surprisingly, our OL is only about fifth on the list of problems (which points to both progress in the OL and the disaster that is the rest of the offense).
The defense, on the other hand, is really good. I think we're a healthy Jabrill Peppers and a non-regressing Blake Countess away from this being an excellent Michigan defense. A lot of people are claiming that this coaching staff hasn't developed anyone, but that's clearly not true for our front seven. They've been very, very good, and that's with our star players being a bunch of lightly recruited guys who have done extremely well here (Ryan, Clark, Henry, Glasgow, etc.).
Honestly, our team isn't the disaster that some are making it out to be, which is a really good thing for the future. We're enough of a disaster - and the coaching is enough to blame - that we need a coaching change, but the new staff will have something to work with.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:42 AM ^
The defense is good. They aren't anything more than that. They beat up on bad teams and get steamrolled by good ones.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:49 AM ^
Sometimes they get steamrolled by average ones.
Minnesota 30, Michigan 14
November 10th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
No doubt that wasn't our defense's best showing, but to be fair, there's a Shane Morris pick-6 in there, and Minnesota started four drives in Michigan territory in the second half. That "30" was as much because of the offense as it was because of the defense. Our offense went three-and-out or worse (INT/fumble before getting a first down) on 8 of its 12 drives. That's awful.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
Rutgers?
Anyway, MSU and Notre Dame destroyed us.
They played pretty well against Utah, but Utah led by 10 points from the beginning of the third quarter on and didn't really have to do much after that.
This would be a fine defense is our offense was at least average, but they aren't. Anyway, they should be better than they've been considering the make-up of the two deep.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^
Would you believe me if i told you we had more total yards than notre dame?
Would you believe me if i told you even as bad as things have been with devin, he's still completling 61% this year..... as TERRIBLE as it has been as of late?
He improves, the whole team will. We had the run going decent today, but DG needs rest more than anything right now.. Is it so bad to hope that he recovers a little mor ethan he's been able to all season...for his last two games?
November 10th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^
I see you are one who uses stats like a drunk uses a lamppost... to lean on instead of for illumination...
Would you believe me that we were down 21-0 at halftime to ND and at that point they had gained twice as many yards as we had? And we had no turnovers at the half?
Devin may be completing 61% of his passes for a whopping 6.8 YPA. Its pretty easy to complete a high percentage when half your passes are WR screens.
November 10th, 2014 at 10:38 AM ^
November 10th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^
Um
When we played Minnesota, they may have won 30-15, but just look at where they got the ball at on their drives.... and they are the 27th ranked rushing attack in the country
They are also the 24th ranked defense.
Did i mention that they are a two loss team right now... and that game was the collosal f up that was brandon's last straw?
I don't think it proves or disproves anything except that our team would be WAY better if our QB was healthy... and that minnesota might be an alright team this year. One of their losses is to a playoff team. Take it for what it's worth.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^
When we played Minnesota, they may have won 30-15, but just look at where they got the ball at on their drives....
Yeah, it was really mean of the Random Number Generating Field Position Fairies to give Minnesota such good field position.
And I'm sure I read this wrong. Because I'm sure you aren't defending losing 30-14 (and getting outgained 373-171) to a team that lost to ILLINOIS as not that bad.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^
And gardner wasn't the QB... when he finally was able to come in, he scored a TD almost immediatley, after shane was concussed and the game clock was almost at 00:00
That was my point, actually.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
Not sure if serious.... You do realize the offensive product MIchigan is fielding is closer to high school level than to Division 1 don't you? This offense would be the worst offense in the MAC conference, and you're coming up with excuses for DG? Bro, the schemes are horrible, the coaching is horrible, and even if DG were Tom Brady this offense would struggle. It's over man... basketball season is upon us.
November 10th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^
It seems people have forgotten that Michigan use to be in the hunt for B1G titles and a national power in the recent past and are now happy with being .500 in the B1G with a coach in his 4th year.
November 10th, 2014 at 10:34 AM ^
Gardner was not the QB because our incompetent coach decided to bench him in favor of Morris. The same Morris who was clearly ill-prepared and ineffective for the entire game. The same Morris who should not have started the 2nd half because he was in way over his head. The same Morris who was fucking destroyed and could barely move yet our incompetent coach kept trotting him out there. The same Morris who was blatantly concussed and yet our incompetent coach didn't even realize it. Not during the game, not after the game.
DB brutally mishandled it in the aftermath but it was 100% Hoke's causing.
November 10th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
You're not quite being fair to the ol' Gophers. They just completely destroyed Iowa yesterday, and at 7-2 are still in the hunt for the West. Let's see how they do in their last three against Ohio, Nebraska and Wisconsin before we call them shit.
November 10th, 2014 at 5:28 PM ^
Actually kind of nice to see Jerry Kill so happy... Dude's been through a lot.. I guess those are the things you look at when your team isn't whoooping everyone's ass.
November 10th, 2014 at 4:00 PM ^
Well Minn is 7-2... they have the toughest part of their schedule ahead of them.
And while they lost to Illinois, they responded by beating the tar out of Iowa. They may be better than average.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^
The same could be said for State's defense, and everyone talks about them like they're an NFL caliber D. They gave up 49 to Ohio, 46 to Oregon, and 31 to Purdue (although some of those points were against the offense).
Our defense may not be the best in the nation, but it's solid and good enough to have put us in the running for the conference championship if our offense had been able to deliver.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:35 AM ^
Nobody but MSU fans are talking about them having an "NFL" caliber defense this year. Their D is not elite this year, merely good.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
It's just an internet message board. It's always like this around here. I'll be there cheering on Saturday as will a bunch of other people on here.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
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November 10th, 2014 at 8:24 PM ^
At this point, keeping Hoke would pretty much 86 the program. Whether you dislike him or not, he is completely damaged goods. No one is going to come play for him.
So when people "in the know" are floating rumors that he can save his job (and thus, pretty much tank the program) by winning out, yeah, there are going to be a certain number of people that root against that.
Does that suck? Yep, sure does. Doesn't mean anyone hates the players or wants them to fail any more. But people get scared that things will be even worse in the future than they already are.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:29 AM ^
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November 10th, 2014 at 8:34 AM ^
my love for DG and his story and my hatred for what they have done to him with their dithering and their manball. My respect and admiration for all the kids and the craptastic way their elders sometimes have them playing. My fervent desire that Hoke is sent packing as DB was--nay, the wild insanity I will feel if he is retained--and my desire to see the team shine. The need for it to be clear beyond any doubt that Hoke must go and the need to win.
Sorry if we're just a little manic around here these days.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:36 AM ^
Don't worry, I agree with you. In my mind, Hoke may have ruined the careers of a few players who should be standouts in the NCAA. It is sad to watch.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:59 AM ^
my love for DG and his story and my hatred for what they have done to him with their dithering and their manball.Seconded. Watching JT Barrett shred the MSU defense on Saturday night just made me sigh resignedly and wistfully wonder what could have been for Devin Gardner.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:33 AM ^
but it is the past 4 seasons (as a whole) that people are pissed at. It isn't any of the players, some have or are going to leave a wonderful memory to the Michigan fanbase, (See: Denard Robinson, Jake M.F. Ryan, Jordan Kovacs...some of my favorites), but the state of the program right now. That's what we're mad at. Its impossible to point at one thing that's gotten us here, its several things, things that we are out of our control as fans. We're frustrated. My advice, keep supporting like we all plan to...and let folks feel frustrated. There's a downside to the support we provide this university and our deep love for its sports programs...and we're experiencing that right now.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:50 AM ^
You mean the 2011 11-2 BCS Sugar Bowl Championship season, and the following 2012 season that saw us go 8-5 with losses to the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 8th, and 25th (final rankings) ranked teams in the country? Obviously the past two are not what we hoped for, and it would have been nice had some of those games in 2012 gone our way but was no reason to be pissed (other than Bellomy). So really it is the past two years.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:37 AM ^
November 10th, 2014 at 11:28 AM ^
what I said was I didn't think 8-5 in that circumstance was really a reason to be pissed (outside of the Nebraska/ Bellomy issue). Not pissed is not the same as being proud as they are on opposite ends of a spectrum with a vast span between the two.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:39 AM ^
November 10th, 2014 at 10:02 AM ^
As a whole, as I said...when you look at how it started to where we are and all the crap that's transpired to get us here, I'm referring to Hoke's entire time as head coach. Its frustrating to see where we were to where we are now, at least to me.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:34 AM ^
This Ohio State team had to go to OT with Penn State..... That's one of the teams we got a W with this year, and our matchups look sort of similar.... better if this extra break helps DG recover
Quit acting like they're untouchable....... Yeah, they beat sparty... so did oregon... who got walked all over by arizona two years in a row....
This was the same talk as last year, nobody was giving us a chance..... and we lost.
.....but that was one HELL of a game.
November 10th, 2014 at 9:42 AM ^
November 10th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
"This was the same talk as last year, nobody was giving us a chance..... and we lost."So, what you're saying is that all we need to do is believe that the team will win and they will win?
November 10th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
So what are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?
November 10th, 2014 at 5:38 PM ^
I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.
November 10th, 2014 at 10:27 AM ^
It is also the same OSU team that went into East Lansing and put 49 up on a team we only put 11 up on.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:35 AM ^
November 10th, 2014 at 8:37 AM ^
FWIW.
November 10th, 2014 at 8:48 AM ^