Harbaugh is Bo

Submitted by ska4punkkid on December 29th, 2018 at 3:34 PM

Well Jim congrats. You want to be Bo so badly. Another coach that is good but not great. Finish most years with 9-10 wins but never win a championship and hardly win a bowl game. 

 

The only reason Bo was celebrated was because he could at least beat Ohio State. 

BlueMk1690

December 29th, 2018 at 3:51 PM ^

Lol at a Michigan fan who uses “Bo” as an insult. You are a fool and really the advice to find another team to cheer for is definitely underused around these parts these days. 

Bando Calrissian

December 29th, 2018 at 3:53 PM ^

The difference was Bo would get the team so keyed up for Ohio State that they'd win and limp into the bowl game completely out of gas. The standard now is to blow the wad by mid-November, get housed in the OSU game, then hope against hope that there's something left come bowl season.

Alumnus93

December 29th, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^

Ironic how

1) Harbaugh publicly roasted Bo at some football gathering about never winning a title (and I think his bowl record too), yet he hasn't won even a BIG title yet.

2) people forget how the elder Harbaugh was fired from Bo staff for ineffectiveness yet now seems to be the sage.  

3) same with Mattison. 

GomezBlue

December 29th, 2018 at 3:57 PM ^

Bo feasted in an era of regional football.  Harbaugh's Michigan is on the national stage, and he simply can't compete with with the national powers with his style of football.  He will never change.  We better get used to being OSU's bitch and a national also-ran.

Perkis-Size Me

December 29th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^

Bo beat OSU regularly. Harbaugh hasn’t beaten them once.

Harbaugh =\= Bo. But both of them shit their pants in bowl games and can’t win national titles so I guess they’re similar in that regard. 

ppudge

December 29th, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^

Slow your roll on Bo - he won/shared 13 Big Ten titles in 21 seasons.  So, basically he'd win the title 2 out of every 3 years.  Yes, he pooped the bed in the Rose Bowl, but Harbaugh hasn't sniffed a Big Ten title yet - hell, he hasn't even made the title game.

Also, Bo beat Ohio State more than he lost to them.

Uper73

December 29th, 2018 at 4:16 PM ^

I loved Bo, however, realistically, Bo was a great Big 10 coach when the BIG was only OSU and Mich when both were mirror images of each other.  Neither Bo or Woody would adapt their approach.  As soon as Hayden Fry came along, with QB's that could throw, Iowa was right there with both of them, often beating them both.  The Pac 8/10 coaches most years showed how faster, but less physical and talented teams with more multi dimensional offenses could prove superior.

Watching Michigan in any big game under Harbaugh now is like watching Bo's teams struggle in soooo many Rose Bowls.  

JH as of now is a good HC, not great HC, has not lived up to his reputation, especially as an offensive coach.  Still has plenty of time, however, has to keep adapting.  No one is firing JH for 10-3 seasons.

 

SalvatoreQuattro

December 29th, 2018 at 4:23 PM ^

UM won Big Ten titles under Bo. He *did* win championships.

 

Michigan is fine with 9-10 wins annually. If people expect them to be like OSU or Alabama...it’s not going to happen.

 

the Glove

December 29th, 2018 at 5:02 PM ^

Yes your rant about firing only the third coach to win three 10 win seasons out of four in program history is so appealing. Take your knee jerk reaction somewhere else. He wins the conference I don't want to hear anything from you.

MIGHTYMOJO91

December 29th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^

Rest assured you will not hear from me on the conf championship. If I have to explain why then I do get your unabashed homerism. Good luck with that, you and Jimmy are gonna need it. You have set your standards high with just a B1G title, most want more tho. This is the sad reality of UM football. Mediocrity.

ska4punkkid

December 29th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

Well I’m sure we’ll all be happy if proven wrong. 

2016- this is our year, 2nd year in the system, lots of experience/seniors

2017 - this is our year. Experienced qb coming back. More Harbaugh recruits playing, MSU and OSU at home. Lots of young, hungry guys

2018 - this is our year. Shea. Crazy good defense. Harbaugh has all his guys and a QB  

whats the narrative going to be for 2019?

the Glove

December 29th, 2018 at 5:41 PM ^

2016: stop Ohio State on fourth-and-short but game stolen by shity ass refs.

2017: What the hell were you thinking? Three returning starters and you thought it was the year? They were predicted nine wins at best for the preseason predictions on this blog. 

2018: beaten by three top 10 teams away from home. Defense failed them in the last two games.

Tuebor

December 29th, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^

Harbaugh is Bump Elliot.  A program legend as a player but stale as a coach.

 

Bo was a total outsider who came in and took this program to another level when OSU was dominant.  We need new blood.  Rrod was the right idea but so poorly executed (we couldnt give him 250k for him to bring his d coordinator, but we gave Hoke 1M for Mattison) and had no institutional support.

 

Modern football favors passing based spread offenses.  We need an innovative coach who will embrace this

Michology 101

December 29th, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^

Well, there are many similarities with their team records and offensive philosophies. I remember fans being frustrated with some of our conservative offenses back in the 1980's. 

We were usually good enough to win 8 to 10 games every season, but the offenses were hardly ever good enough to win a National Championship or many bowl games.

The Big 10 was much easier for us to win back in the 80's and OSU played the same boring conservative style of offense. 

Therefore we could often beat them during that time.  

SC Wolverine

December 29th, 2018 at 5:03 PM ^

Bo was celebrated because of the dynamic man and leader he was, who turned around our program for a generation.  Harbaugh is also celebrated because of the dynamic man and leader that he is.  I'm as down as anyone, and a bit dismayed by the state of our program after a season of great expectations.  But give him some time -- it takes a while to achieve greatness in a clean program.  In Dabo Swinney's fourth season, Clemson went 10-3 and lost 70-33 to West Virginia in the Orange Bowl.  Living in South Carolina, I well remember how despondent the Clemson fans were over the state of their program.  Chins up, fellas.

TD Billy Taylor

December 29th, 2018 at 5:48 PM ^

Not a bad analogy.

I've heard a lot of comps between Harbaugh's first few years and Dabo's, but it still feels like Harbaugh just doesn't have many of the signature rivalry wins that Dabo claimed early on. Granted, OSU and MSU are no ACC rivalries, but the point remains.

SC Wolverine

December 29th, 2018 at 8:41 PM ^

Your point about signature wins may be a valuable one, too.  After the Wisconsin game this year (which felt like a signature win at the time), our team really elevated its play.  Meanwhile, the OSU debacle a month ago seems to have lowered our teams sense of will today.  Ergo, we've got to find a way to beat the Bucks.

mgohusker

December 29th, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^

“We want the Big Ten championship and we're gonna win it as a Team. They can throw out all those great backs, and great quarterbacks, and great defensive players, throughout the country and in this conference, but there's gonna be one Team that's gonna play solely as a Team. No man is more important than The Team. No coach is more important than The Team. The Team, The Team, The Team, and if we think that way, all of us, everything that you do, you take into consideration what effect does it have on my Team? 

Because you can go into professional football, you can go anywhere you want to play after you leave here. You will never play for a Team again. You'll play for a contract. You'll play for this. You'll play for that. You'll play for everything except the team, and think what a great thing it is to be a part of something that is, The Team. We're gonna win it. We're gonna win the championship again because we're gonna play as team, better than anybody else in this conference, we're gonna play together as a team. We're gonna believe in each other, we're not gonna criticize each other, we're not gonna talk about each other, we're gonna encourage each other. And when we play as a team, when the old season is over, you and I know, it's gonna be Michigan again, Michigan."

———————- 

For the love of God, quit playing that video at the Big House. Present day Michigan betrays everything Bo stood for and how he coached his players to approach the game and life.

"The Me, The Me, The Me, The Me"

TD Billy Taylor

December 29th, 2018 at 5:46 PM ^

Starting to seem like reality, yeah. I've always been slightly off-put by the quote (probably from one of the Bacon books, I think) that, when Harbaugh told Bo he was becoming a head coach for the first time, Bo asked if he was going to have a fullback. Harbaugh, of course, answered that yes, he was going to have a fullback, and then IIRC Bo said something like "you'll be fine."

To me, this anecdote kind of encapsulates Harbaugh as a coach. He's very set in his ways and, frankly, somewhat stubborn. I was glad to see him move on from his pal Drevno last year, but he's going to need to be less steadfast in his antiquated offensive convictions if he wants to attain true and sustainable success at Michigan.

pugboy

December 29th, 2018 at 5:49 PM ^

Thinking It is 1970 and kissing photo of Bo's rear end before every game doesn't seem to make Harbaugh a great and elite coach.  

His pride, his pride, his pride.  Bo is dead Jim, quit trying to dig him up