ImSoBlue

January 28th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^

for Hoke. 

Puts a different light on "think of brunette girls" line.

Regardless, all my prayers for the victim and hope that she can recover OK.

 

Princetonwolverine

January 28th, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^

Being expelled from school certainly falls into my definition of being a "family matter". Hoke is known for not giving out ALL the information, nor can he based on privacy laws. 

When Hoke gave this explanation for Gibbons missing the bowl game in his last year I figured it must be one hell of a family matter. Sad.

It seems to me that coaches have said on several occasions, player X "is no longer attending the University of Michigan". That would have worked too.

AHM16

January 28th, 2014 at 6:44 PM ^

My fiancé is in the MSW program and repeatedly told me that none of the women in the program wanted him there bc of his shady history. From her experiences I was told he was a complete jerk that had no reason becoming a therapist. From everything I heard about him it was really difficult rooting for him throughout the season and it made me question the leadership of this university

Wolverine Devotee

January 28th, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^

I like how this is all revealed AFTER his football eligibility runs out.

Solid job, Hoke & co.

Wow this is terrible.

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^

I thought that there might be a handful of morons who would presume Gibbons' guilt.  I never dreamed that there'd be this sort of mass freakout.

Let's review:

  1. This matter was investigated by police, under the glare of press coverage, back in 2009.
  2. Gibbons, per the police report, cooperated in the investigation, without securing counsel or claiming any privilege against self-incrimination.
  3. No criminal charges were ever filed.
  4. No civil case was ever filed by the alleged victim.
  5. The matter has been kept alive, if that can even be the right term, in the public eye by one Douglas Smith, a retired university employee who blogs as the "Washtenaw Watchdog."  Smith has made a second career out of more or less regularly showing up at Regents meetings, city council meetings, etc. to pursue his crackpot peeves about all manner of personal grievances.

So now, with no real adjudication of any kind, we see the MGoBoard (and assuredly, most of the Western World) presuming that Brendan Gibbons was guilty of sexual assault.  It is sickening to me.  Who needs a judge or a jury?  Evidence schmevidence.  Verdict now, trial later.  Or maybe not.  Who needs a trial?

One notable journalist has been doing a lot lately, with the brave new world of university Kangaroo Courts student discipline boards.  That journalist is James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal.  In a column headlined "An Education in College Justice," Taranto outlined the story of Joshua Strange, an Auburn undergraduate who was accused, and acquitted of a campus sexual assault.  But that wasn't the end of it.

So Mr. Strange got his day in court and was treated fairly. But he had already been punished for the unproven crimes. Auburn expelled him after a campus tribunal found him "responsible" for committing the catchall offense of "sexual assault and/or sexual harassment." A letter from Melvin Owens, head of the campus police, explained that expulsion is a life sentence. If Mr. Strange ever sets foot on Auburn property, he will be "arrested for Criminal Trespass Third," Mr. Owens warned.

...

The injustice of such proceedings is largely hidden from the public, because most universities conduct them secretively. Auburn is no exception. Its Discipline Committee's hearings are closed to spectators, "private and confidential" under university bylaws. But Auburn keeps on file an official audio recording, a copy of which I obtained.

...

The most striking quality of the 99-minute proceeding is its abject lack of professionalism. Imagine a courtroom with a jury and witnesses, but no judge or lawyers. Mr. Strange and his accuser had lawyers present—the only people in the room with legal training—but they were forbidden to speak except to identify themselves at the outset.

Joshua Strange in 2010, when at Auburn. Courtesy of the Family

Presiding was an Auburn librarian, Tim Dodge, the committee's chairman. The other members were two students, a staffer from the College of Liberal Arts and a fisheries professor from the Agriculture College. Mr. Dodge was confused and hesitant throughout. At one point he got lost and admitted: "I can't find the script here." On multiple occasions an unidentified voice—Mr. Strange believes it is Mr. Frye—can be heard on the recording whispering stage directions to Mr. Dodge.

 

The absence of a judge to control the proceedings left Mr. Dodge anxious for authoritative guidance. It was provided by the two Auburn administrators the accuser called as witnesses. First up was Susan McCallister, an associate director with the campus police who doubles as a "safe-harbor advocate," a concierge for purported sex-crime victims. "Any kind of services that they need access to, we provide a doorway," she explained. Such services include counseling, "academic accommodations" and help in filing police reports.

At the hearing, Ms. McCallister proclaimed the accuser "very credible" and attested to the belief that Mr. Strange was "a potential threat to [the accuser's] safety." But Ms. McCallister disavowed knowledge even of the accuser's version of events. "As a safe-harbor advocate, I really don't need to know a lot of details, and so I didn't ask her to go into great detail," Ms. McCallister said. "I don't really want survivors to have to tell their story over and over again."

...

This story is almost as typical of American universities as it is outrageous. I described the hearing in detail to Mr. Shibley of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. He told me the only element that struck him as unusual was the prosecutor's presence in the hearing room.

Yet apart from the loose standard of proof, none of Auburn's procedural infirmities are expressly mandated by the Education Department. If the due-process requirement is more than an empty promise, the department will withhold Auburn's federal funding until the university revamps its procedures and makes restitution to Mr. Strange.

It would be better still if universities could get out of the discipline business altogether, except for scholarly offenses like plagiarism, cheating and falsification of data. Ordinary civil and criminal courts are immensely more competent to adjudicate allegations of sexual harassment and violent crime, in open proceedings subject to appellate review, without trampling the rights of the accused.

 

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB100014240527023036153045791579001…

Yes, I'd like to see a much more in-depth investigation of the case of Brendan Gibbons.  I'd like to know what level of proof was demonstrated against him by the University of Michigan.  I'd like to know how this proceeding was conducted, under what procedural rules and with what legal protections to the accused.  I'd like to know who the triers of fact were, and whether they even attempted to determine whether a sex crime had occurred, or whether they were asking a different question altogether.

All that I know right now is that the criminal justice system found no basis to charge or convict Brendan Gibbons after an investigation in which both the alleged victim and the alleged perpetrator were interviewed, and law enforcement knew that it was operating under the glare of press/public knowledge.

 

Moisturize

January 28th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^

Ignoring Gibbons and his situation for a moment, since I'd agree, ultimately we have no idea what occurred on the night in question...How do folks rationalize supporting Taylor Lewan?

Because in Lewan's case, we do know a few details...He did attempt to contact the alleged victim, (instead got her friend) as there was a record of the call...That person asserts that he threatened the alleged victim (believing it was her he was speaking with)...We know multiple teammates of Lewan's corroborated the friend's account.

That was always the most troubling element of the story, from my perspective...At least in terms of the things we can essentially prove actually occurred.

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

Sorry; you've got the facts wrong.

Lewan NEVER contacted the alleged victim.  NEVER.  NOT ONCE.

On one occasion, Lewan approached a group of co-eds, some of whom he knew, and asked, "Is this the girl [who made the allegation(s) against Gibbons]?"  But in fact none of them were "the girl."  There was no threat of any kind made on that occasion.

Lewan NEVER "ATTEMPTED TO CONACT THE ALLEGED VICTIM."  That simply didn't happen.

No emails, no texts, no phone calls.  Period.

I'll confess I don't know this case quite as well as I would if I were counsel in the case.  But I think I'm right about all of this.  Point me to the documentation if you think I am wrong.

Urban Warfare

January 28th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^

C.E. Beatty's police report of December 6, 2009.  On December 5, 2009, Lewan repeatedly asked the victim or her friends (it's unclear because identities are redacted) whether the victim planned to press charges.  Lewan then proceeded to say that "If she does, then I'm going to rape her because [Gibbons] didn't."  I don't know how that can be seen as anything but a threat. 

 

Moreover, you acknowledge in your own post that Lewan actually did attempt to contact the victim.  Why else would he approach the group of coeds and start asking "Is this [the victim]?" 

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 8:12 PM ^

Lewan made that regrettable crack to his own friends.  NOT TO THE ALLEGED VICTIM.  Lewan NEVER contacted the alleged victim in any way, shape or form.

Don't play word games with me.  Lewan approached a group; he knew some of the women but not all.  He asked them if one of the women, whom he did not know, was "the one."  She wasn't.  Which, if nothing else, shows just how far removed Lewan was from the situation.

And I'll say this, again.  I GET TAYLOR LEWAN.  HE WAS PISSED.  His friend had been publicly accused of rape.  Falsely, it seems, since there was no prosecution.  I might not say what Lewan said, but I completely underastand how angry he was, and why he was so angry.

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State Street

January 28th, 2014 at 8:18 PM ^

This is hilarious.  Aren't you like 60?  Is it really your place to be making blanket generalizations about the relationships of college students?

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Urban Warfare

January 28th, 2014 at 8:43 PM ^

I'd say you're the one playing word games, sport.  If you're a lawyer, you should know there are plenty of reasons not to prosecute besides a false accusation. 

As for your first paragraph, I'd argue that when a person starts by repeatedly asking about whether charges will be pressed, and then follows up those questions by saying "If she [presses charges], then I'm going to rape her because [Gibbons] didn't,"  it's more than a regrettable comment.  It's a threat, which he knew or should have known would get back to the victim.  With regards to your claim about him not attempting to contact the victim, can you offer an alternative reason for his behavior?  Was he trying to identify the victim so he wouldn't talk to her? 

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^

"Presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law."  With all that we don't know about this case, that's the one thing we do know.

Anybody who calls Brendan Gibbons a "rapist" ought to be sued for libel.

You can have your opinion about Lewan, I'll stick with mine.  The fact is that he never once attempted to communicate a threat of any kind to the alleged victim.  And the police investigated that one, too.

Michigan Arrogance

January 28th, 2014 at 9:33 PM ^

you keep acting like we're all in a court room. Gibbons has no unalienable right to keep his spot with the football team or the university.

 

Anybody who calls Brendan Gibbons a "rapist" ought to be sued for libel.

does that include the alleged victim?

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 9:56 PM ^

Gibbons has no unalienable right to keep his spot with the football team or the university.

Gibbons has the right to due process if he is accused of a crime.  He may well have been given due process in this case.  I hardly need to keep saying, "He was never charged!", do I?

And I'd like to think that some level of due process and equal protection would apply to Gibbons before he was dismissed from the team or expelled from the university in connection with an unproven criminal allegation.

Anyone who, with fault amounting to at least negligence, makes or publishes to third persons a false accusation of a crime like "rape," could be liable in Michigan in a civil action for libel or slander (now routinely called "defamation" in this state).  That includes the alleged victim of the supposed rape.

Michigan Arrogance

January 28th, 2014 at 10:05 PM ^

Gibbons has the right to due process if he is accused of a crime.

 

Does he have the right to due process if he is accused of breaking the student code of conduct by the university?

my inclination is to say no, but nonetheless would hope that he receives it. It looks like he did in this case, both in the eyes of the law (not charged of a crime by the state) and in the eyes of the university (expelled 12/20/13) due to the (newly adopted in 2013) preponerance of evidence instigated & conducted by a 3rd party (the university) investigation.

Michigan Arrogance

January 28th, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^

so he has legal recourse to sue the university for wrongly expelling him (read: lack of due process)?

 

also, replying to section 1 again:

1) you need to stop using terms like "proof" and "charged with a crime". the univsersity is under no obligation to uphold such high standards as would be used in a court of law. They are (very recently amended apparently) federally mandated to uphold a preponderance of evidence. no, there is no 100% proof of a crime, hence his lack of charging and conviction in a court of law. There is, however a preponderance of evidence- hence his dismissal from the university.

2) re: defamation. IANAL, but I assume Gibbons won't be suing the alleged victim or any of us for defamation b/c of the aforementioned preponderance of evidence against him.

I could acuse section 1 of being a right wing conservative limbaugh-lover and if that were a crime he may sue me for defamation. but he wouldn't win b/c there is a preponderance of evidence that supports my accusation, even if there is no hard proof (donations to his fan club, pics of him getting his autograph, copies of section1's registration with the Tea Party or Repub party) that that is actually the case.

TheLastHarbaugh

January 28th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^

Are you seriously equating a student's right to free speech to rape allegations?

Also, students have a right to a public school education K-12. They do not have a right to be a member of a football team at a university on scholarship. Attempting to equate the two is absolutely ridiculous.

Michigan Arrogance

January 28th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^

Goss v. Lopez.the Court held that because Ohio had chosen to extend the right to an education to its citizens, it could not withdraw that right: students facing suspension should at a minimum be given notice and afforded some kind of hearing.

 

 

I don't think the state of Michigan extends the right of a college education at the A2 campus to all citizens of the US. So I'm still not inclined to grant that the U owes due process rights to a student whom they deemed to have violated the code of conduct.

again, I'd hope they do and it seems they in fact did (twice), but I'm much more concerned about the due process afforded to the alleged victims  than the alleged assaulters, at least in the case of sexual assault.

Urban Warfare

January 28th, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^

S1, are you representing Gibbons or Lewan, or do you have a connection to whoever is representing them, assuming they have counsel?

Michigan Arrogance

January 28th, 2014 at 11:08 PM ^

Goss v. Lopez.the Court held that because Ohio had chosen to extend the right to an education to its citizens, it could not withdraw that right: students facing suspension should at a minimum be given notice and afforded some kind of hearing.

 

 

I don't think the state of Michigan extends the right of a college education at the A2 campus to all citizens of the US. So I'm still not inclined to grant that the U owes due process rights to a student whom they deemed to have violated the code of conduct.

again, I'd hope they do and it seems they in fact did (twice), but I'm much more concerned about the due process afforded to the alleged victims  than the alleged assaulters, at least in the case of sexual assault.

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ak47

January 28th, 2014 at 9:51 PM ^

Wait a guy quotes a police report that refutes what your saying and rather than giving evidence to the contrary you make a declarative statement even after saying you don't know the case that well. Then you sympathize with a guy making a joke about raping a girl? Numerous people in this thread have told anecdotal stories about gibbons being a supposedly creepy guy with women, the timeline makes no sense, but with an admited lack of knowledge about the case you feel comfortable making such declarative statements that you felt the need to put them in caps. Nobody is playing word games you just didn't bother to read.

Colin M

January 28th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^

As UW acknowledged, the police report is difficult to decipher because all the names are redacted, but it appears that Lewan made multiple threatening comments to the victim's friends. Then UM police warned him to stop and notified the Dean. So, the police interpreted his actions as threatening to the victim. 

And regardless of the hair-splitting about exactly to whom he made those offensive comments, they are still completely disgusting and reprehensible. And yet, you insist on defending him - "you get him." I cannot even fathom it. 

Moisturize

January 29th, 2014 at 3:11 AM ^

You're wrong both with respect to what I initially asserted, and Lewan's role in the incident.  Taylor Lewan did, in fact, attempt to contact the victim; but mistakenly contacted the victim's friend (who apparently was in possession of her (the victim's) phone), and made that rather disgusting threat.  The friend relayed, to police, the nature of that threat, which was also subsequently corroborated by some of Lewan's own teammates - at least one of which, also happened to be a friend of the alleged victim.  Lewan was then ordered to not have any further contact with the parties in question.

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93Grad

January 28th, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^

Just because something is in a police report doesn't make it true, and even given that caveat, we don't know if we even have all the relevant police reports or if the police even talked to all of the relevant witnesses.  Your apparent cerrtitude about something you have minimal knowledge about leads one to beleive you have some other agenda here.

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DCBlue

January 29th, 2014 at 10:42 AM ^

Having spent 3 years as a sexual assault prosecutor and another 7 as a federal organized crime prosecutor, I can only say one thing to you, Section 1 -- you're an idiot for equating false accusations with lack of criminal charges.

Just because charges weren't filed doesn't mean that law enforcement didn't believe the victim or think that the assault occurred. They very well determined there was not sufficient evidence to prosecute.

I have no idea what the prosecutors charging decisions in this case entailed. But the statement you made asserting Gibbons has to be falsely accused because no charges were filed is idiotic.

Section 1

January 29th, 2014 at 12:20 PM ^

I haven't actually made any declarations about the truth or falsity of any charges against Gibbons.

I brought up the notion of Gibbons having been "falsely accused" in the context of Taylor Lewan having made an unwise and possibly emotional statement that others want to somehow inflate into a charege of witness intimidation or obstruction of justice.  I said that I understand Lewan's anger if indeed he knew that the allegation was phony.

None of us are going to resolve Gibbons' guilt or innocence.  The basic fact is that he will almost assuredly never be found guilty, since the investigation was dropped.  Although I think there is a 10-year statute of limitations for lower-grade sexual assault and no statute at all for sexual assault in the First Degree.  I expect that no prosecutor in Michigan would proceed with a case now.

At the same time, most of the free world seems quite happy to scold not only Gibbons but also the Michigan football program for what they think -- absent any finding of guilt under circumstances of substantive due process for the "defendant" -- was a crime and a cover up.  never mind the facts.  So I am angry about that.

In the end, the real policy issue here going forward is whether this case represents yet another plunge into a Star Chamber world on university campuses thanks to the 2011 directive from the Obama Department of Education, rolling back due process rights for persons (read: men) accused of sexual assault or sexual harassment.  This could very well be yet another political fight for the soul and the managment of student life on campus.  Far removed from the particulars of the Gibbons case.

 

DCBlue

January 29th, 2014 at 2:54 PM ^

"His friend had been publicly accused of rape. Falsely, it seems, since there was no prosecution"

I'm not badly misconstruing. Your hysterics notwithstanding. I'll say it again. Your comments about not being charged = falsely accused are idiotic. I'm willing to bet you haven't spent a day of your life on a criminal case. If you have, I'll wager you've had a few ineffective assistance claims.

guthrie

January 28th, 2014 at 7:12 PM ^

It is disconcerting that we know absolutely nothing about the process used.  Any prosecutor or criminal defense attorney who reads the initial reports knows that there is simply no way to file that case.  It could never be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  Even a lower "clear and convincing evidence" standard would likely be rejected for prosecution.

But using a preponderance of the evidence standard?  It's certainly possible to proceed. I am curiuos to know if Gibbons was allowed to examine his accuser, whether the accuser actually testified and whether Gibbons was even allowed at the proceeding.  His accuser (who from all accounts is an incredible young woman with a very bright future) declined to prosecute.  I wonder if she elected to participate in this proceeding.

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^

My "disgust" is with the MGoBoarders who are condemning Gibbons and presuming his guilt when no such guilt was, or even could have been, proven.

My "doubt" is with the University.  I have severe doubts about these non-judicial proceedings.  They are fraught with problems.  If there is a supected criminal sexual assault, we have a police department, a county prosecutor's office, a district court, a circuit court, a court rules book and evidence rules to deal with all of that.

But yeah, nothing describes my reaction to the MGoBoard like pure "disgust."  (With notable exceptions for those who have tried to put this non-judicial decision in context.

Spare me your utterly rotten Penn State analogy.  Penn State's case shows just what this case lacks; a vigorous prosecution.

Section 1

January 28th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^

My "disgust" is with the MGoBoarders who are condemning Gibbons and presuming his guilt when no such guilt was, or even could have been, proven.

My "doubt" is with the University.  I have severe doubts about these non-judicial proceedings.  They are fraught with problems.  If there is a supected criminal sexual assault, we have a police department, a county prosecutor's office, a district court, a circuit court, a court rules book and evidence rules to deal with all of that.

But yeah, nothing describes my reaction to the MGoBoard like pure "disgust."  (With notable exceptions for those who have tried to put this non-judicial decision in context.

Spare me your utterly rotten Penn State analogy.  Penn State's case shows just what this case lacks; a vigorous prosecution.

Colin M

January 28th, 2014 at 9:15 PM ^

Section 1 is a parody of an insufferable old man yelling GET OFF MY LAWN.  In many instances (i.e., concussions, exploitation of athletes, Title IX), it has been my observation that Section 1 rides in on his rather high horse to defend the status quo. But that's just like my opinion, man and I didn't feel like writing a wall of text to articulate it. So I mocked him. Because he's ridiculous. 

If I had been so inclined, I would have pointed out that James Taranto is indeed a journalist, but more specifically, he's a conservative columnist. And the quoted piece was an opinion column in the WSJ. WSJ's news department has a good reputation but their editorial page is extremely conservative. Both WSJ and Taranto have an agenda and the tone of the column belies the writer's bias. I could find lots of colums from Slate or Mother Jones on the issue of rape on college campus that draw the opposite conclusion, but I don't think they would be very effective at changing Section 1's mind. 

Earlier in the thread, I noted that, according to the CDC, 19% of undergrad women will be sexually assaulted during college. And there are numerous stories of women dropping out and/or harming themselves after university administrations refused to take action when there was credible evidence of sexual assault, but no criminal conviction. There are multiple federal suits against universities alleging they've violated Title IX by failing to respond appropriately to rape accusations. Expelling Gibbons is in direct response to those concerns. I think it's fine to question the use of extra-judicial discipline and point out that Gibbons was never found guilty of a crime, but his screed was absurdly over the top. 

His priorities are insane. I mean, elsewhere in this thread, the guy defends Taylor Lewan, who joked that he would rape the victim if she pressed charges. I quote, "I GET TAYLOR LEWAN.  HE WAS PISSED." He also concludes that Gibbons was falsely accused, because he wasn't prosecuted. Isn't that just as moronic (Section 1's word) as presuming guilt? The guy isn't here to have an honest discourse. He's here to throw bombs and say offensive shit. And he deserves to be mocked for it.