Future Football Schedules and Wisconsin
I was perusing Michigan's future football schedules with a colleague who went to West Point to see the date of the Michigan-Army game in 2019. While doing so, I noticed Wisconsin was again on Michigan's schedule in 2018, and 2019, and 2020, and 2021. That will make six straight years -- 2022 B1G games aren't posted yet. Whatever happened to rotating versus the B1G West teams.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^
It's because you touch yourself at night.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^
delany screwing us again
November 15th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^
I know. All the games are in Madison too!
November 15th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^
we no longer have home games... EVER
#thanksDaveBrandon
November 15th, 2017 at 4:01 PM ^
I love playing Wisconsin, just wish one of MSU, OSU, PSU had to play them as well. The imbalance this season in crossovers for us vs. our divisional foes is nothing short of absurd.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
There's an odd scheduling quirk, where each team plays another from the other division 4 straight years. Here is each team's permanent team in that time frame:
https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/big-ten-not-ready-to-announce-football…
We just happened to get Wisconsin, OSU gets Nebraska, and MSU gets Northwestern, who is apparently their hardest foe of late.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^
That link explains 2016-2019 but doesn't address why Wisconsin is still one of the crossovers in 2020 & 2021. It could just be a weird quirk but I didn't see anything explaining the methodology.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:26 PM ^
That's pretty "unlucky" for the good guys
November 15th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^
So there is one consistently good porgram in the West and all the others are both inconsistent AND they never reach the 11-1 marks that Wisconsin is capable of. Basically playing worse programs who might have a good season every once in a while, but never a great season.
Whoopie..?
November 15th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
Also look at Wisconsin ooc schedule for the next 6 years. It's all hot garbage plus a game against notre dame. Barry Alvarez is such a pussy.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
The next 6 years?
Look at Wisconsin's ooc schedule 21 of the last 25 years. They have a looooong love affair with hot garbage.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^
They have a home and home with Syracuse and a Lambeau/Soldier Field with ND in both '20 & '21. That's pretty reasonable. Plus @ South Florida in '19 isn't horrible, either, at least from a 2017 point of view.
November 15th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^
Agreed, McNabb is always dangerous.
November 15th, 2017 at 6:25 PM ^
always too soon
November 15th, 2017 at 5:13 PM ^
They played LSU last year (and won).
November 15th, 2017 at 6:23 PM ^
Babers is going to get a better job this year and Syracuse will be garbage again. USF is exactly what Wisconsin tries to schedule: a respectable team that won't be too threatening.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^
so I can see some games live.
It's going to be something, like, 6 years before I'll have another chance.
Stupid corn fields....
November 15th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^
If we never play at Kinnick again it would be cause for celebration. You could always set a corn field on fire...
November 15th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^
that'd burn down 3/4 of the state, but the popped kernals would make the kids happy if there was enough melted butter to go around.
November 15th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
Hey!! That's Nebraska, the best motion picture ever produced in the Cornhusker State.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
Group 1 of B1G East = PSU, OSU, U-M
Group 1 of B1G West = Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Group 2 of B1G East = Maryland, MSU, Rutgers
Group 2 of B1G West = Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota
Group 3 of B1G East = Indiana
Group 3 of B1G West = Purude
The 9-game B1G schedule is in a 18-year cycle. The first 6-year cycle, you play 1 team from the fellow Group all 6 years, and play every other cross-divisonal foe twice over those 6 years. Then again and again.
Each of PSU, OSU and U-M will play each of Iowa, Nebraska, and Wisconsin 10 times over 18 years. Each of PSU, OSU, and U-M will play each of the other B1G West teams 6 times over 18 years.
If anybody wondering about exactly how PSU, OSU and U-M were paired off with Iowa, Nebraska, and Wisconsin ---- look at the 2012 conference standings (the year before the 9-game schedules for 2016 and beyond were announced). They appear to have been paired off precisely according to their conference record in 2012. OSU (8-0) #1 vs. Nebraska (7-1) #1. U-M was tied at 6-2 with PSU but PSU did have sanctions upcoming. Wisconsin was #2 among the west teams in 2012 conference record - they were 4-4 vs. Iowa's 2-6.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:22 PM ^
It would make more sense if PSU/OSU/Mich and Iowa/Nebraska/Wisconsin rotated through so that year 1 Michigan would play Iowa, year 2 Nebraska, and year 3 Wisconsin. Same for OSU and PSU. This seems ideal especially with how hard Nebraska has fallen off.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^
may have something to do with keeping a home-road cadence going.
If they did that cycle like you say, you'd still have to sprinkle in other PSU/OSU/Mich vs. Iowa/Nebraska/Wisconsin games to get to "10 of these match-ups every 18 years" - I'm not going to set up a Excel spreadsheet but my intuition says home/away equality potentially gets a bit out of balance in some smaller-time periods.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:20 PM ^
We didn't play Wisconsin at all from 2011-15, so I'm OK with it.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^
Wisconsin should be complaining about playing us. I don't get this fan base. To be the best, you have to beat the best. Now, I understand complaining about playing MSU on the road 2 yrs in a row, but playing Wisconsin, who cares. We haven't beat a team with a winning record yet. That's pathetic. I understand Florida is a mess, but the rest of the schedule is garbage. We need Wisconsin this year, just to gain a little respect.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^
Playing the hard teams is one part of it, the other is getting some variety for the season ticket holders. It would be preferable to mix it up once in a while rather than going so many years without playing Iowa.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^
But that's gonna happen with a 2 division 14 team league.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^
I think it's time for UM to go independent. We own a money cannon. We have a brand. Playing in the "toughest division in college football" isn't responsible for any of this. Hurts more than it ever helps. While there may be penalities for opting out of conference, that would be offset by TV down payments. Let's get all ND up in here and win one of two non body bag games per year and be in the discussion and eligible for the mythical national championship. Don't care about MSU. Don't care about Minny. Don't care about Iowa. Rutgers (rivalry game) can pound sand. OSU once a year. Florida once a year. Then service academies and smart schools that need some cashish, I'm all for helping Vanderbilt, Stanford, Northwestern, Columbia, etc. Amiright?!
November 15th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^
Let's not shit on ND's schedule when they played/play Georgia, MSU, USC, NC State, Miami, Navy, and Stanford all this season.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:30 PM ^
ND can always be shat upon.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^
They always play a competitive schedule. There just happens to be more parity this year than most.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:44 PM ^
User Name in this case (MGoOhNo), however, checks out.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
I agree too, but why even play MSU? Nothing good comes from that game even when we win. We stomp them for 50 years then they get good for 10 and act like the same idiots regardless if they win or lose.
November 15th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^
First, MSU was on Brandon. Secondly, I would much prefer playing Wisconsin than Nebraska for a number of reasons including quality of competition and proximity for away games (Michigan has a much larger fan base in Chicago than in Omaha). Thridly, last years Game was not some conference wide conspiracy. Lastly (regarding this particular post) do you think any network with which we would sign wouldn't require us to play night games in proportion to all other big time programs? Until there are no conferences, I think we are in about as good a place as we could be.
November 15th, 2017 at 6:48 PM ^
Nebraska was a good team? its not like these schools or the conference is choosing to lose. this is silliness
November 15th, 2017 at 5:33 PM ^
This is weak! It screams of the conference is too tough “let’s take our ball and go home” we have the right coach and talent we can navigate through the schedule. We play 3-4 tough games a year, it is not some overbearing schedule that should be too hard for us. OSU played Iowa at Kinnick in a crossover this year, so did PSU. MSU played the hottest team in the conference in Northwestern(and loss). All the top teams in the division had to go on the road and play a top B1G West team. This is not some conspiracy by Delaney, he just wants to create good content for the television partners, and as one of the premiere programs in the conference we play in a marquee crossover game.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^
Wouldn't of been easier to switch every three years play three teams in a two year cycle home-away then they drop off and add three new teams more so IE
Michigan first west divison opponents be Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern Home-Away, then Purdue, Wisconsin, Illinois home-away then Iowa, Minnesota, and Nebraska so every third year get three new opponents?
November 15th, 2017 at 9:09 PM ^
All teams should have the opportunity to play each other more frequently.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
Let us recall the real issue here: Expansion. Life was simpler before Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers. (And it's not like joining the B1G has worked out great for those three either.)
November 15th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
Durkin owns dantonio though. At least admit that.
November 15th, 2017 at 5:16 PM ^
Don't forget Penn State, they can head off to the ACC for all I care.
November 15th, 2017 at 4:54 PM ^
We're not supposed to tell you.
November 15th, 2017 at 5:13 PM ^
Is let ND back on our schedule...
We already have the toughest conference schedule.
And we have Washington and VA Tech after the ND years.
It’s our own fault. I would cancel the ND games and VA Tech or WA
Wiscy is proof that strength of schedule is meaningless
November 15th, 2017 at 5:46 PM ^
AD is trying to cancel the Washington series I believe.
November 15th, 2017 at 7:40 PM ^
...part of their Shamrock series or whatever they call it (played in Dublin, or Europe, or NYC), I'd rather keep WA (or Wazzu or Cal or UCLA) and cancel ND. Michigan needs more games in more parts of the country including the west and the south and the east, not fewer.
November 15th, 2017 at 6:33 PM ^
that we do this season, however we will be ranked higher since we will have wins and losses against tougher competition. The 2018 schedule will put steel in our spine ready for Michigan to win it all in 2019.
November 15th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
Why ... just a joke. Who came up with that scam?
November 15th, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^
Wisconsin has been, since the 1990s, a good bellweather for Michigan. No good Michigan team has lost to Wisconsin during that run, with the exception of the injury-marred 2007 game.