Former Clemson Players Saying That Dabo Didn’t Do Anything After Assistant Coach Used N Word
It appears Narduzzi was calling his players Pakistani and Indian robbers and murderers from the mid 1300's through the late 1800's. At least that's where the term originated.
https://www.historybits.com/thugs-thuggees.htm
The more you know....
Those would be all Indian robbers. There was no "Pakistan" before 1947.
Damn. Dropping some knowledge. Tough to slide anything past this board.
Thugs? I thought he said slugs.
Least surprising thing ever.
Least surprising why?
Never trust a rich, southern Bible thumper.
Way to lump a southern christian with a decent amount of money.......I actually know a few and they are decent people.
Did they earn that money over the past few generations, or is it inherited wealth from the plantation?
Asking for, oh, about 10 million Americans...
Well of course a white southerner must have got his/her money from the slave trade of 175 fucking years ago!!Nice one though.
This is always an interesting discussion/argument. I’m always curious how far back into history is one expected to go to find an injustice, and when found, by what rationale do we tie someone to events that they didn’t participate in?
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
My ancestry is Visigoths... and I require reparations from the Italians (Holy Roman Empire), for raping, murdering, and stealing my land after they stormed through the Alps.
Interesting points you bring up. Of course, the future generations of folks did not participate in the atrocities committed by their ancestors. But they are enjoying the fruits of those actions though. Right? So should they share some of those "spoils" with those who have been wronged by their ancestors and still being discriminated against?
How far should one go back in history? Good question again. If you are being proud of your ancestors, you should at least go back to that generation. If you are proud of Columbus, consider 1492. If you are proud of your great-great-grandparents, consider when they were active. Of course, it is open to discussion and argument.
So should they share some of those "spoils" with those who have been wronged by their ancestors
What “spoils” are you speaking of? How does one begin to isolate the “wronged”, or is it simply an entire demographic group? If this were to be implemented, wouldn’t all wealth in the US flow back to Native Americans? This is a classic example of a “slippery slope” that, IMO, is best avoided at all costs. But that’s not a very “woke” opinion I suppose. Probably need some 3,000 page laws written detailing how to implement to guarantee the correct payors and payees.
I’m shocked. Shocked.
That seems pretty on-brand for Dabo. Next step is the public will push back on them and Dabo will say something like "People don't like us because we run a christian football program over here and we're just getting a little persecuted" as he leaves the presser to go see how his bagmen are doing
Fuck Dabo!
I'm a high school teacher and the frequency that students call others the n-word is disheartening. It can be tough to intervene sometimes, but there's no excuse for not intervening with something so extreme.
What about if another teacher called a student it?
I have never heard that, but I have heard of many English teachers that will say it when reading from a book, insist that students say it, call on Black students to say it so that "it's ok", etc.
Much of that is from students, but I'd be surprised if most of those allegations weren't true.
That's one of the worst tactics I've ever heard.
I'm sure they're all reading it if they're paying attention. It's not that hard to just skip past and still get the meaning if it's that important to whatever the lesson is.
My point was that you brought up how tough it is to know how to deal with students saying it to each other in a thread about a teacher (coach) saying it. I would assume you would feel much clearer that you need to act if that occurred.
Why would it even be "protecting the brand" to let a racial slur pass? Even in South Carolina it's still a pretty easy decision to make.
I would assume what the person is referring to is Dabo creating/building/leaning into his image as an upstanding Christian man of high morals. Having a coach use the N word with impunity word tarnish this image. (
And yes, I am well aware of the history of some Christians justifying their racism via their religion.
But what's why he shouldn't let his assistant use the word with impunity. He should have called him out on it right away.
What if the assistant is really good at his job? What if it's Brent Venables? How strong would his program be if he tossed him?
He doesn't have to fire him. I wouldn't fire a coach because he said something in the heat of the moment. But I'd be like "Brent, that was inappropriate. You can't say that here." And have Venables apologize. It's not that hard to show that you give a shit.
Dabo is such a pius two faced scum bag.
Don't know if its true or not. Maybe it is, maybe its a guy who's upset he didn't get more playing time and is taking it out on Dabo. No idea. Wasn't there. All I know is that if it is true, it wouldn't surprise me. The people who often proclaim to be the most religious or are the most "in your face" about it are often the biggest hypocrites of all.
Dabo is a hell of a football coach, but I wonder if after the last week or so, he's still spouting the same bullshit of "We don't have a race problem in this country. We've got a sin problem."
Perhaps someone should tell him we have both.
Considering he says there was a sit-in, I assume it was true. And it doesn't surprise me at all that this happened.
Considering he says there was a sit-in, I assume it was true. And it doesn't surprise me at all that this happened.
Not surprised. We’ve long known that Dabo sucks on this topic.
The "N" word in question is "Natural", as in not roided up.
big shock, phony pious southern football coach actually doesn't like his minority players.
I had a coach who every other word he used was the n word (with an a at the end). It was his filler word. He’d call the coaches and players it; white and black. No one ever said anything to him about it. Looking back it was totally unacceptable. The rest of the staff was white which did not represent the demographics of our team or school, so I wonder if they felt it was not their place. He wasn’t a bad guy or coach at all, but I don’t think that’d be tolerated at all in 2020.
Yes, absolutely matters. Also when it ends with an "a", and is coming from a black guy it is essentially saying "my boy" or "my brother"
I won't use it, for example at the gym, because I'm white and it will just sound fucked up and can insult people - even though I get called it all the time when I do something well on my bball team.
Context matters, details matter, source matters.
WRONG... and this has been proven over and over again on this Board, basically you're saying this is contextual sarcasm... which is bullshit, because you M grads certainly can't grasp it when I've used it. Some douche on this forum just accused me of wanting to kill millions of people; it's ok though, he got his panties in a bundle (enter the femi-nazis now).
Just remove the word from your vocabulary... and it should be removed from everyone's vocab!
**Case in point, if there's a conversation behind a closed door in a dorm/quad and someone says the "N" word, and you have to look inside to see what color they are, so you know if you're going to reprimand them or not... then you've defeated the exact equality you're trying to establish.
Unless that is sarcasm, it is the stupidest thing I have ever read.
Who the fuck are they? And what makes you think they throw it around willy nilly?
Does not matter. Bama, Clemson, Georgia...you hear and see confederate shit everyday, yet the recruits and programs keep rolling.
1) A lot of kids like to stay close to home, and southern kids are accustomed to this garbage.
2) For 4-6 "schools", college football is not about student athletes, their experiences, or development beyond football and NFL preparation.
3) Dabo like Freeze before him and many of these southern white coaches (for decades) have played the "good Christian" card with families, and it works well. Sell faith and families assume you are a good, decent, open human being.
Dabo’s day is coming. You can only McCartney it for so long
The kids being recruited won't be as outraged as Mgoblog.
I don't think there's any doubt at this point that Dabo just straight up sucks
They should all transfer to OSU I hear it's a safe haven for five stars who feel threatened. All seriousness, with the climate in our world right now, this may end badly for Dabo with even a sliver of truth to the statements.
But he believes in thy lord JC so all is good.
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Nothing will happen to Clemson. Clemson will keep rolling just like OSU. Day is a better coach than Meyer.
Jury is still out on him as a better coach. Certainly a better person though.