Fireworks will NOT happen: Regents vote against them
By the looks of these tweets, it seems there will be no fireworks. This guy is live tweeting the board of regents meeting.
It looks like fireworks will be shot down.
https://twitter.com/Freephighered
Read some of the comments from the Regents...
Fireworks at #UMICH football games to be similiar to Winter Classic display. Will be shot multiple times during game.
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Regents asking lots of questions about fireworks display at games. Uncommon for them to ask this many questions in public
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Regent Ilitch: I don't understand fireworks during the game.
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Regent Dietsch: Heard from lots of people opposed to it. I will vote no. Plans disrespectful to our neighbors.
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Regent Dietsch: Fireworks "feels like a night at Disney" not a Michigan football game. @freep @freepsports
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Bernstein: We are not Comerica Park (says no offense to Regent Ilitch, who is sitting across him).
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Bernstein, @MGoBernstein: The fireworks should be on the field, not above the field.
— David Jesse (@Freephighered) July 17, 2014
Edit!:
UM Regents vote against fireworks at Michigan Stadium this season, citing safety, public disturbance concerns. @michigandaily
— Ian Dillingham (@IDillingham) July 17, 2014
Let's get rid of this new fangled equipment as well. If a leather helmet was good enough for Ole' 98, it should be good enough for New 98.
or the Regents didn't understand what was being proposed. I can't believe that the athletic department would be so stupid as to suggest fireworks be set off during the game... surely they were proposing to do it after the game is over.
I think her name was Sally Churchill and she's the VP of the University of Michigan.
she isn't the J. Ira and Nicki Harris Vice-President of the Univeristy of Michigan?
from the mlive.com article
Regents broke the original agenda item into two separate votes after U-M vice president and secretary Sally Churchill explained the plan was to shoot off fireworks during halftime of the Miami game – an afternoon game – and after touchdowns, during halftime and after the game versus Penn State.
Christ. How many tickets do they still need to sell? Are we this badly in danger of missing out on 100,000? AFTER touchdowns? Why? For what purpose? Are we going to get a smoke machine too? A mascot?
...a walrus that farts fireworks when Michigan scores, but I'll bet the PETA people would be all up in arms about that.
There is a UM football ticket both set up next to the M Den at the art fair - that should tell you how many tickets they need to sell. They are desperate.
Ann Arbor is going to start to look like Jacksonville, Florida with all the desperate pleadings for people to buy season tickets. And the schedule of promotions and games is going to remind me of a Single A baseball team.
Saturday |
Appalachian State Mountaineers - "A Night to Remember" Watch with the entire nation as every broadcaster re-hashes Michigan's most embarassing moments! Listen, as Dave Brandon explains to "60 Minutes" just HOW important HE is to building the Michigan BRAND. |
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Saturday |
at Notre Dame Fighting Irish "I don't even know who would want to watch this game. They still play on GRASS, have lame-o uniforms, an old scoreboard, and live in a boring old college town." - Dave Brandon |
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Saturday |
Miami (OH) RedHawks - Fireworks Night!!! Every Fan Gets A Free Michigan T-Shirt Sponsored by Arby's, Jiffy Lube, and Domino's. Wear your Michigan (Arby's, Domino's and Jiffy Lube) pride on your chest year old with this 100% cotton crew neck! |
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Saturday |
Utah Utes LIVE Halftime Performances by: |
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Saturday |
Minnesota Golden Gophers one of, if not the BEST team to visit Ann Arbor in 2014 - the Minnesota Gophers. Listen to halftime speaker John Madden as he attempts to remember that one great Minnesota season in the mid-1970s. Or was it 50s? |
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Saturday |
at Rutgers Scarlet Knights Celebrate Big Ten PRIDE by welcoming RUTGERS! Bringing it's proud tradition of... I honestly don't know a single thing about Rutgers. I can't even make fun of them. It's like picking on that kid in elementary school who just sucks at EVERYTHING. Well, at least all you New York alumna will be happy every other year whilethe rest of us have to sit here and sadly admit to other big conference schools that, yes, we're actually not joking... Rutgers is actually in the Big Ten. |
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Saturday |
Penn State Nittany Lions hasn't been to a bowl game in a few years and probably can't this season either... who even knows anymore. There will be fireworks. And it's before Halloween so it's still nice out. And there will rock music during every 3 second break in play. And a movie night the week before. Please just buy a ticket. Please. Seriously please buy tickets.
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Because Michigan has NEVER done promotional type things to get butts in the seats!! What would Don Canham think of all this nonsense!?
OMFG.
I honestly didn't think David Brandon was really that clueless.
I just negged my own comment above expressing confidence that DB wasn't that crazy to actually propose in-game fireworks.
I was naive.
Money quote: “I have religiously attended (UM)) football games for 50 years,” Deitch said. “I have not found that experience lacking of fireworks.”
Here's an excerpt from Freep article with fuller quote from Bernstein:
Though most of the Regents spoke on the topic, the most impassioned opposition came from Regent Laurence Deitch and Regent Mark Bernstein.
Both gave extended statements after hearing that some of the fireworks could be after scoring plays.
“This is I believe is a huge symbolic issue,” Bernstein said. “I love fireworks, but not at a Michigan football game. We are not Comerica Park or the Super Bowl or Disney World or a circus, and the important point is we shouldn't try to be. At a certain point, enough is enough.”
Deitch, who has voted in support of fireworks in the past, said he has considered it more thoroughly and was disturbed, citing a moment from years ago when a fireworks show in front of him went awry.
I don't have a problem with postgame or even halftime fireworks, but after scores is going too far.
At least two people get it. We're there to watch a FOOTBALL GAME. We're not all five years old and don't need to constantly have flashing lights in front of our eyes to stay awake.
and an insane idea if during a game, it seems that Bernstein might not be the best person to complain about attention-getting displays---what with he and his family advertising their legal services 24/7.
I always knew the regents read MGoBlog
Wow. I thought these would be post-game fireworks, which would be weird, but whatever. In-game fireworks? Seriously, Dave? Post-touchdown fireworks? How about the Michigan Marching Band plays the fucking Victors!
I never thought it possible before, but this was a clear shot at DB and I love it.
to "Hail", "Leaders", "Best", "Champions" and "West" ...
/S
David Brandon effectively just shot himself in both feet in front of people who have the power to fire him.
That's never a good career move, no matter how secure you might feel in your job.
And it's all so needless—there was no rational reason to propose fireworks during the game, after touchdowns. There were no fans clamoring for it. It's like Brandon or Hunter Lochmann or whoever have no ability to discern what UM fans actually want, and just sit around dreaming up half-baked ideas by themselves with no input from somebody outside the athletic department.
While the original firework plan for the PSU game was shot down, the Regents formally approved these fireworks for deployment within 10 feet of James Franklin each time Michigan earns a 1st down.
I'm thinking it would be more like...
That youtube of Captain America captures perfectly how the fireworks proposal was handled by the athletic department. These people couldn't sell meth to a rich tweaker in Harlan County without blowing themselves up in the process.
I gotta believe eventually Raylan is going to fill Duffy full of holes. I'm looking forward to it.
SUCK IT, BRAND-ON!!
The Board could have voted it down with some bland discussion, or quietly killed it by asking for "further study" or "more information." Instead, a number of Regents made a point of making very quotable statements. This is not an accident - these people know how the media works.
There needs to be a balance between making money and preserving tradition. I am glad that the Regents publically let the Athletic Department know that they were going too far. I hope Brandon listens to them.
It's not just excessive. It's idiotic and contrary to the fundamental character of the MIchigan football tradition.
What's really ironic is that David Brandon fired a football coach who allegedly wasn't a "Michigan Man," a guy who supposedly didn't uphold Michigan "tradition" in the right ways, yet it's Brandon himself who says "if it ain't broke, break it anyhow!"
There is smoke rising from Bo's grave at the very suggestion of fireworks after fucking touchdowns.
if we have to have fireworks during a damn Michigan football game to get people to come, then this might be the lowest point in the program since Bo took over. Good lord.
I was ambivalent about the fireworks at first. But the idea of them happening during the game really bothers me and I'm glad the Regents put their foot down. What's the big deal, you ask.
Here's why it's a big deal to me:
Growing up I fell in love with the pageantry of Michigan football. That love of Michigan football quickly grew to other UM areas thanks to the Maize Rage in the early Tommy era (not kidding) and eventually I went to UM and my life has forever changed thanks to the friends, connections and memories I have of and from Michigan.
That all started with Michigan football and one of the things I loved about watching games on TV was when the band started the Victors after a TD and you saw the camera sweep over the student section, pumping their fists to the chorus. The team would take the field for the extra point and the band would play quieter, though still slightly audible as the team readied to attempt the PAT, almost defiantely ignoring the convention to not play during plays. Then - the snap! The ball sails through the uprights and almost as if it was always perfectly timed (knowing the MMB, it probably was!) the band blasts back into full volume on "HAIL" as the official puts his arms up for the successful kick.
The Victors. That's all you need after a touchdown. Not fucking fireworks.
The Michigan Daily that posted today revealed that the Regent vote on the fireworks was across party lines. All the Republicans voted in favor of them, all the Democrats voted against them (except for one who said they would be ok for a night game.) I'm wondering if Brandon hasn't politicized the Regents behind closed doors. His conservaitve leanings were well known before he had the job and his name still comes up for Governor from time to time. It makes me wonder if he's now lost the President and 2/3 of the Board of Regents on any controversial issue he has to send their way.
Except there's no reason to believe party politics had anything to do with this whatsoever. Complete speculation.
Well, nothing other than the fact that the vote went according to party affiliation.
One of the votes did. One of them didn't.
Does anyone really think a regent would let politics (what political gain is there to be had, by the way?) guide them on a fireworks during a football game issue?
The new prez has no investment in him. First Regents meeting with the new prez, DB fireworks plan gets shot down, and between the lines statements by a couple of regents seem to express frustration with the overall direction of the AD.
Or is this me projecting?
If you really wanted to project and read between the lines, you could portray this quote from Schlissel in his interview with the Michigan Record as implying that he's somewhat uncomfortable with the over-commercialization of the AD
"Athletics is a wonderful community-building thing for the campus and we just have to be careful that the balance remains appropriate given that we are a great academic institution."
(The most logical explanation is that it's a throwaway line, or, if you want to project in a different direction, that it's directed at the AD's reputed targeting of donors to academic programs). On the fireworks thing, it's pretty obvious that at least some of the regents have been hearing complaints about the game day atmosphere and the continued marketing efforts to sell tix. This kind of veto doesn't just come out of the blue.
One of my contacts in the U-M community told me that one of the huge recent donations to the athletic dept. was originally earmarked for one of the academic units or departments, but at the last minute was switched to the athletic department, supposedly after some buttonholing and campaigning by the athletic department bigwigs. Whether this reflects actual fact or not about how things went down I don't know, but regardless, this account or narrative has generated a great deal of hostility and resentment among academic departments towards the AD. I'd bet that the dislike of DB by the student body is easily matched, if not exceeded, by the academics on campus.
Schlissel has made it very clear that he's an academic first and foremost, so what lies ahead may be very interesting.
That's really interesting. I've heard similar things (3rd and 4th hand) about smaller donors (endowing chairs, not buildings) to academic programs being targeted by the athletic department during the transition between Terry MacDonald and the new dean of LSA.
The person I talked to was pretty annoyed, it apparently violated an implied "hands off" agreement between central campus and the athletic campus and was seen as trying to take advantage of an administrative vacuum.
same as I've been told. A common view of Brandon is that he apparently just doesn't give a shit about relations with the rest of the U-M campus.
It might be that there is a partisan split in general (if they were voting on, say, health care) though I don't know the answer to that. BUT, I can assure you that the reason the fireworks got voted down has nothing to do with partisan politics. They voted down fireworks (and made the public comments) very specifically because they feel the way that most of us do.
Fireworks after touchdowns. In Michigan Stadium.
Good fucking lord.