Early Gator Bowl line: Michigan +6
Michigan's currently listed as a 6 point dog on BetUS. Also, the Big Ten is the underdog in each New Year's Day matchup.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:15 PM ^
Wow im taking that
December 6th, 2010 at 10:54 PM ^
We have lost by the top 5 teams we played this year (iowa, psu, osu, msu, wisco) all by double digits. Miss St. is probably better than 3 of those 5 and you want to take Michigan? Interesting.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:15 PM ^
Miss St is maybe better than Penn State, but they are not as good as Iowa or Sparty. Iowa destroyed Sparty and was this close to beating both OSU and Wisconsin, and Sparty won 11 games including Wisconsin, at Penn State, and Illinois by 20. Miss St won the ones they were supposed to win (like we did), but their best win was 10-7 over Florida and its train wreck of an offense. I'd take the points, I figured the line would be Miss St by 3.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:47 AM ^
For each of the points you mention, there are even stronger ones pointing to the fact that Iowa was not good at all. Losing to 2-9 Minnesota shows more than what they almost did against OSU and Wisconsin.
Also didn't anyone notice that MSU is probably one of the most overrated teams in the country. Does anyone in America think they can stay with Alabama? They were a 50 yard field goal/ fake kick from losing to ND at home and they had to battle their asses off to beat Purdue.
I'd say MSU neutral field would be an even match up.
December 7th, 2010 at 2:24 AM ^
They lost focus against Minnesota by their own admission. Teams that are "not good at all" don't blow out 11-1 teams by 30 points. When Iowa is on their game, they can play with anyone and would probably beat Miss St by 10 points or so.
Sparty is overrated, but they're better than Miss St by any objective measure.
December 7th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^
Don't refer to Michigan State as "11-1 team" to make your point sound better, refer to them as Michigan State.
Blowing out Michigan State at home does not make Iowa good. Michigan State may be one of the worst 11-1 teams in a major conference in the history of college football. How many 11-1 teams in the Big 10 go to the capital one bowl and are still 10.5 point underdogs.
Michigan State and Mississippi State are actually decently comparable in my opinion. Put Michigan State through MIssissippi State's schedule and if you think they realistically do any better than 8-4 (Miss St's record) then.... well then discussing football with you is a waste of time. So with that comparison, considering Mich St. beat us at home by 17, that brings me back to my original point of Michigan +6 being a very reasonable line. If anything I think Michigan should be getting more points.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:17 PM ^
Probably suicide to admit this, but for a starting line I'm surprised it wasn't larger. MSU has only lost to ranked teams and beaten everyone else, they're currently ranked, and we had a terrible ATS, and the public is obsessed with the SEC. They aren't stellar at anything, but also don't have any painfully obvious flaws (ie defense or special fg kicking). They kept close with Auburn, which may hold some weight when people are looking for value in spreads.
With that being said, I think RR will have this team ready for the game. I remember at some point in the past, Mathlete pointing out that the games with a week break were the best of the season (probably said before the PSU game ...). Meaning the Utah game and UConn game (and deleware last season?). But I'd never bet on this game.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:15 PM ^
is likely to drop closer to the game... (as more bets are placed)
IMO the game's gonna be much closer than this, the teams seem like perfect matchups for each other. i'm pumped for this game, and i'm betting on a tight UM victory, Go blue!
December 7th, 2010 at 4:06 PM ^
MSU better have its track shoes on. Michigan completely healthy is going to light it up, Not to mention playing for your coaches future.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:16 PM ^
I'm sorry, but what have we done to deserve that. I personally think we'll win, but MSU has four losses all to top 25 teams!? How are we favored?
December 6th, 2010 at 9:19 PM ^
Um we are not favored.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:19 PM ^
read that wrong.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:20 PM ^
I'm not sure how losing to Ark, Ala, LSU and Aub is somehow superior to losing to Wis, OSU, MSU, Iowa and Penn St. It's not who a team loses to, it's who they've beaten. Miss State's "big" wins are Florida (7-5,) Georgia (6-6) and Kentucky (6-6.) Michigan boasts UConn (8-4,) Notre Dame (7-5) and Illinois (6-6.) Pretty even match-up if you ask me; therefore, Michigan deserves any tightening of the line that occurs.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:26 PM ^
We won't lose to two "MSU" schools in the same season--we can't. Although if the unthinkable did happen, I'm sure that Dantonio will find some way to take credit for it during recruiting visits. I try to convince myself every day that that man doesn't have body parts neatly packaged and stuffed in his freezer.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:33 PM ^
Obsessed much? This thread is about our bowl game vs. Mississippi State University. Why bring up Dantonio?
December 7th, 2010 at 12:36 AM ^
....Another "Michigan fan" with a trollish sounding name who talks about Michigan State in every one of his posts. All of this while telling regular board members that they need to curb their rival obsession....
December 6th, 2010 at 9:30 PM ^
Damn I am going to get some of that line and quick before it drops. My guess is by kickoff it'll be closer to 3.5 or 4 as the Michigan money drives the line backwards.
Usually i HATE betting Michigan but this line seems almost too good to be true. Hmmmm wonder why
December 6th, 2010 at 9:36 PM ^
Kind of saw that line coming. You can guarantee that I'm putting money down on us to win outright. Our revolution shall proceed.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:47 PM ^
I am with you fellow Coon and Friends member.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:44 PM ^
If they would have shelled out $180,000 they would probably be -15.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:53 PM ^
I am taking Michigan and the points
December 7th, 2010 at 10:46 AM ^
They would be -3 versus Oregon in National Championship.
December 6th, 2010 at 9:50 PM ^
Is anyone else shocked that Wisconsin is a 3 point underdog to TCU in the Rose Bowl?
December 6th, 2010 at 10:09 PM ^
I know it was just Indiana, but jeez, they scored on EVERY OFFENSIVE POSSESSION.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:56 PM ^
I'm stunned that TCU is even favored. Would have expected them to be 4-7 pt dogs.
TCU has NO CHANCE to stop Wisky's running game. They haven't played a physical team like this in ages.
TCU is good and will put up a few points, but I see this one as a 41-31 game for Wisky.
Wisky is as good as any B10 team since the '06 Buckeyes/'06 Wolverines. No way that they lose this one.
December 7th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^
Both those teams you mentioned got their butt handed to them in the bowl game. Though I do think Wisconsin may be the best team in the nation right now.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:13 PM ^
I am currently cashing in equity on my home to bet on the Badgers if that is the line. Oh wait, homes don't have equity anymore. Damn it! Off to the blood bank.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:01 PM ^
I'll take the over please.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:19 PM ^
I realize Michigan has scored some points this year but only one Mississippi State game against a non-cupcake opponent has come close to 59 1/2:
Auburn 31
LSU 36
Florida 17
Kentucky 41
Alabama 40
Arkansas 45 (in regulation)
Mississippi 54
December 6th, 2010 at 10:19 PM ^
Over under is the combined total, no?
December 6th, 2010 at 10:31 PM ^
Those are the combined totals, except Arkansas. Don't know what is going on with that one since you can't combine for 45 un regulation and go to OT...
December 7th, 2010 at 9:26 AM ^
Oops, you're right. Only 7 points scored in 2OT. 62 points in regulation. I still think there is historical data to suggest that this isn't a LOL Vegas thanks for the free money thing.
December 6th, 2010 at 10:07 PM ^
ratings
December 7th, 2010 at 12:33 AM ^
or maybe the sagarin ratings are just accurate in this case?
December 6th, 2010 at 10:44 PM ^
Even TCU is favored?
December 6th, 2010 at 11:35 PM ^
TCU -3 Wisconsin
December 6th, 2010 at 10:52 PM ^
MSU will be jacked, even though they are still new to bowls. They are playing the #1 NCAA team in wins and victory %.
Uncertainty among bettors about the future of M's coaching staff. What impact will that have on preparation???
Well, dammit!!!!!! Give me 6 points and we will win OUTRIGHT!!!!
December 6th, 2010 at 11:34 PM ^
And 7-5 Iowa +1 against 10-2 Missouri.
11-1 MSU +10.5 against 9-3 Alabama.
PSU +7 against Florida.
Wisconsin +3 versus TCU.
N'w +9.5 against TTech (this one doesn't surprise me at all... no Persa is no good for N'w)
Illinois +2 against Baylor
OSU favored by 3 against Mallett's Hogs
December 7th, 2010 at 12:04 AM ^
How the hell is PSU +7 against Florida?!? That line should be somewhere closer to even.
All the other lines seem pretty reasonable.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:37 AM ^
Vegas thinks, given a month+ to straighten things out, they will turn it around a bit...maybe have a new package for Trey Burton.
Remember, PSU was completely outclassed by Iowa and OSU.
December 7th, 2010 at 2:29 AM ^
I'll take Sparty and 10.5. The bookies must be counting on Alabama getting a lot of stupid money.
December 6th, 2010 at 11:42 PM ^
Wisconsin getting 3 points against TCU is free money. Absolutely shocked by that line.
December 7th, 2010 at 12:09 AM ^
Only because I sent a text to my Sparty friend last night asking about his tuff draw wih Bama and he said "I am thrilled about the matchup."
Bama wins by 20...
Line for the Mich game will drop soon. Bulldogs got -3 for thier record and -3 for being in the SEC... A gambling man takes the bet now while its high...
Hail!
December 7th, 2010 at 10:25 AM ^
I really wouldn't be surprised is Bama won by more than 20. Sparty is going to get torn apart in that game. Maybe after that, they will realize that they were one of the most overrated teams this year. WIshful thinking...
December 7th, 2010 at 2:10 AM ^
The Auburn loss (probably MSU's most impressive game on paper) was early in the season. Auburn also squeaked out 3 point wins against Kentucky (6-6 team) and Clemson (6-6 in a weak ACC) in the first half of the season.
... I think that game loses some luster after closer inspection.
The second most impressive game on their resume (also a loss) was the triple(quadruple?) OT loss to Arkansas. Considering the evidence from the rest of the season I'm leaning toward the idea that Ark just got caught looking ahead to LSU.
Aside from those games (-at first glance) I don't see anything on their resume that strikes fear into my heart...
10-7 win over a Florida (7-5)... 12 pt win over a Georgia (6-6)... 8 pt win over a terrible Ole Miss (4-8)... 7pt win over Kentucky (6-6)...5pt win over UAB (4-8 and 3-5 in C-USA) ?!
I'm feeling pretty good about this matchup.
December 7th, 2010 at 10:38 AM ^
Who have we beat that is better than Florida and Georgia? And for the love of God don't say Connecticut.
What good teams (such as Arkansas or Auburn) has Michigan played remotely close this year?
Quit crapping on Miss St's resume when Michigan's is clearly worse.
December 7th, 2010 at 6:24 PM ^
I'm "crapping on their resume" by stating facts? About the only thing that was opinion or conjecture in my post (and was stated as such) was Ark looking ahead to LSU.
"for the love of God don't say Connecticut."
Why? Because it doesn't fit with your perception? I don't doubt for a second that UConn could play with Florida and Georgia on any given Saturday.
This tit-for-tat game-to-game equivalency BS is worthless. I looked at their schedule as a whole and I do not find it as impressive as some seem to... Mostly those who always seem able to convince themselves of the worst when it comes to Michigan football.
The great thing is we'll know in a few weeks who's got this one wrong. I'm totally comfortable with that.
December 7th, 2010 at 2:50 AM ^
think we are going to bash are little brother from the south.GO BLUE!!!
December 7th, 2010 at 4:49 AM ^
Im taking Michigan on the money line. I don't think we need the points.