Draft: Further Evidence of Harbaugh’s Greatness

Submitted by UNCWolverine on

While watching the draft I couldn’t help but notice how many players from our rival teams/big ten were taken before our first player was taken. If you didn’t watch/track the draft very closely here is a quick rundown of the number of players taken before Glasgow was selected at #95.

OSU – 10 players (5,2,3)

ND – 6 players (2,2,2)

MSU – 3 players (2,0,1)

PSU – 3 players (0,2,1)

Other big ten – 7 (0,4,3)

PS: Connor Cook is still waiting by the phone.

It’s pretty incredible to see these numbers considering we were only really outplayed by one team all season. I can’t see this happening again for a very long time.

PPS: Connor Cook, still not drafted...

Edited:

OK, Cook has now been drafted.

I understand Lewis/Butt could have gone early and been drafted prior to Glasgow. My point in writing this wasn't to analyze it from a micro level. It's to show from a marcro level just how far behind our roster was from a talent level and still basically only lost one game all season. Really the Utah, MSU, IU, Minney games were coin flips. 

This draft is a huge pivot point for our program. OSU just had their 11th (!!!) player taken in the first 3.5 rounds. MSU just lost the best QB they've ever had. Meanwhile our roster is as strong as ever. That's my whole point, guess I should have taken more time to explain this when I wrote it last night.

bronxblue

April 30th, 2016 at 2:50 AM ^

It is pretty amazing. Also, at this point there must be an injury issue or something else with Cook that caused this tumble. He's a better QB than Kessler and Hackenberg, and probably also Lunch right now. And it's not like Goff or Wentz are proven stars. I never thought Cook was a 1st round talent, but he's definitely better than a 4th rounder.

BlueMk1690

April 30th, 2016 at 6:09 AM ^

and I imagine people who are complaining are probably salty that no Michigan player was picked earlier and so many Buckeyes were picked early.

The reality of the situation is that Ohio State's number of drafted players indicates what is already pretty obvious: Urban Meyer has done a great job assembling one of the elite teams in college football and the number of drafted players reflects well on both their recruiting and their coaching. It also means that there's a decent chance they will be worse next year because even a great recruiting team like OSU is unlikely to replace 1st round picks one to one reliably. I wouldn't make too much of it since they will be able to replace a lot - if perhaps not all - of them, so they should still be very very good, just perhaps not *as* good.

With Michigan, I think it's fair to point out that Jim Harbaugh's first roster did not quite have the quality that we expect going forward. That is of course a statement about the previous staff who either didn't recruit the right guys or didn't coach them up well enough but then that might also be a natural consequence of being on our 4th coaching staff since 2007 and going through two big conceptual departures in that time frame. 

It is fair to say that Jim Harbaugh and his staff did a lot with a roster expected by many to be just a 7-5 type team and the draft illustrates that.

Wolfman

April 30th, 2016 at 7:28 AM ^

We don't have to point out everything that might have happened, could have happened, will happen. Harbaugh will be judged not only by UM fans but fans of the game, no matter where they  reside. We'll will have plenty headed to the NFL starting next season, with a few going there this year. Jim H. has never needed a push  from anyone to get jumpstarted. It'll happen. Let it unfold.

gobluerebirth

April 30th, 2016 at 7:49 AM ^

It's early, so I'll let that go..either I'm exhausted or that was extremely convoluted. It just gets so tiring waiting to be good. Living in Ohio the past 15?!?! years has been a damn onslaught. I know we'll have talent...but, are we going to just get 2nd place in the BiG 10? Urban Meyer is going to have that young roster pumped because they choked last year. He's gonna drill that disappointment into them. I'm terrified to go into the shoe against a veteran QB. Hopefully, their offensive struggles running the football without Zeke. Their slow start last year was very alarming. They had so much talent! I guess this is all a waste...because we won't know till fall. I do know one thing...we're playing 2 Rivals on the road. These Rivals always play their best game of the year against us. Hopefully probability lends our way and OSU has a bad game against us.

San Diego Mick

April 30th, 2016 at 6:38 AM ^

Lewis, Peppers, Butt and Chesson at minimum have a damn decent shot at being 1st rd picks.

If anyone thinks i'm crazy for saying chesson has a chance, he has NFL speed and look at how he improved as the year went on and he absolutely abused Hargreaves in the bowl game, the 11th pick in the draft.

HarBooYa

April 30th, 2016 at 12:17 PM ^

Blown away that like three dudes from the Florida defense went so high. I know they were highly touted but their numbers, performance and desire in their last game was not impressive. Rudock and Chesson absolutely destroyed them. I get all of the osu picks but the Florida picks, not so much.

Bright side is that uofm is in good hands if it is starting to tear apart teams with this many draft picks on a big bowl stage. Chesson may actually be a 1-3 rounder indeed. All depends on his qb this year.

M-Dog

April 30th, 2016 at 1:05 PM ^

The Florida D was legit.  As we have seen ourselves, when your O keeps going 3 and out, your D is going to suffer.  Even if it has 3 1st rounders.

Also, that entire FL team checked out before the citrus bowl.  They were definitely not in mid-season form.

Finally, give credit to Drevno and company.  They got everyone healthy and put together a very good, hard to stop offensive plan for the bowl game.  It bodes well for the future.

 

snarling wolverine

April 30th, 2016 at 1:47 PM ^

We marched up and down the field on them all day. It's not like they were shutting us down for awhile before getting tired late. We punted once all game.

I really didn't see much from their D to be impressed by, but if they are legit, that's more credit to our staff for humiliating them so badly.

gobluerebirth

April 30th, 2016 at 7:41 AM ^

I like them a lot better than threads titled "Fire Coach X". You knew that the thread was a positive/praising our dear leader thread. Why did you click or even bother to contribute. It's OK for us to discuss the draft...and how Harbaugh made chicken salad out of chicken shit last year. In short... don't be a negitive Nancy! We're all on the same team! Happy times.

UMProud

April 30th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^

Unfortunately for Mr Cook his strengths don't translate well to the NFL where the speed of the game would overwhelm him. I think his passing velocity and inaccuracy are the two things that primarily hurt him. Easier to blame the media than to acknowledge skill deficits.

cbs650

April 30th, 2016 at 7:58 AM ^

Connor Cook has won more than Hackenberg but he also had a better team. It's saying I'm taking Dilfer over Stafford. I think Hackeberg is probably more talented and higher ceiling. Cook to me seems to be who he is at this point.

StephenRKass

April 30th, 2016 at 8:52 AM ^

I'm on board with this thread. It shows the coaching job done by Harbaugh and crew. And it leaves me salivating at what will happen once we have the same talent level as OSU on the field.

JayMo4

April 30th, 2016 at 9:02 AM ^

Using this stat to negative recruit Michigan would be like when Meyer first got to OSU and made a big deal about their APR vs ours.  Everyone knew those numbers were going to change fast under Hoke, just as the draft numbers are going to move quickly (starting next year) under Harbaugh.

The lack of Michigan players going in this year's draft tells you one thing:  JH did a great job last year, and when the talent inevitably starts flooding to AA, we are going to have a monster team.

M-Dog

April 30th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

It also tells you something about Harbaugh that goes counter to the current narrative:  He's a actually a great guy to be around, and players that could have gone Pro wanted to come back and play for him.

They were not just using Harbaugh to get to the NFL and then bailing just as soon as that could happen.

Harbaugh may be a jerk to people outside the program (who deserve it), but he's cool to his own guys.

Great for recruiting:  Harbaugh can get you to the NFL at a high level AND you'll have a great time while that is happening.