Does Deboer stay at Washington? Could he get some NFL looks?

I agree with you on Moore's candidacy, but I don't think the Shaw comparison is reasonable. He had some good seasons at Stanford (not an easy place to win) well past the point where you could attribute the results to the "Harbaugh effect."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shaw_(American_football)

We just spent a decade building up a culture that is successful enough to topple mega stacked 5 star programs. You don’t throw all of that away because you’re not sure he can handle it. There’s no sure things in coaching college football, let the guy prove it and reevaluate later if he can’t

I get where you’re coming from, but what’s better on the job training than what Sherrone got down the stretch?

He certainly doesn’t have the program management experience, but I think you can’t risk the Sherrone relationship by hiring someone else when he’s shown what he can do already. 
 

I think DeBoer would be by far the best candidate if it’s not Moore, fwiw. Hopefully none of this matters anyways. 

"isn't the place for on-the-job training" he says about the guys who spent 4 games getting on the job training here

Attempting to hire a hot-shot HC is too risky. They'll try to forcibly import their own culture rather than adapting what's already working and building on it. Better to hire a good young coordinator.

I agree even thought it's unpopular right now. I like Moore but he is really unproven - yeah he got us 3 great wins as an interim, but there's a whole lot more than that that goes into being a head coach of a program like Michigan. It would be very high risk

Right. Moore is great guy and obviously a high quality coach. But being a HC at an elite program also requires a lot of macro/CEO stuff -- which Moore may or may not be good at. He's only 37, and 5 years ago he was a TE coach at CMU. He did great this year. But it was still Harbaugh's team. There's still a lot of unknowns about him. 

I like Moore and agree that it's probably still too early for him to take over a big program like UM; look no further than UW who replaced Peterson with top-level assistant Lake and that went poorly.  Moore's a different coach and has actual HC experience but if Harbaugh leaves UM is going to look around at a lot of guys, and Moore should be one of them.

Also, keep in mind that although Moore did beat OSU without JH on the sidelines, he did have Harbaugh at practice all week in which Harbaugh drew up the gameplan.

I love Sherrone as much as anybody, but due to the last 15 years in this program, I am just a bit hesitant to give the keys to somebody that has never drew up a gameplan on his own, or have REAL HC experience. I would rather see him get a few more years of a coordinator and maybe an Assistant HC first

What your post really points up is what we don't know--about Moore's skills in running a large organization. If Jim designates him as HC in his absence, this may suggest he believes him the most capable next up. To my knowledge, he IS the one with the most such experience.

A head coach at a huge school like Michigan oversees a giant budget and many personnel, must be respected and delegate extremely well. These are things that most people here, from what I see, have very little insight about when it comes to who capable in-house candidates may be. And a lot of our posts are necessarily spotty when it comes to this discussion.

For example: Minter is an obviously brilliant D coordinator; that says something about his skills managing one piece of the operation. It's a leap, though, to him or someone like Minter or Mike Hart as HC, and people seem to make it based solely on the fact that he's performed so capably in this one role, coming from a very similar, but limited roe. . . unless people know something I don't know.

My knowledge about Sherrone is also very limited, but he seems to be the guy best placed/most experienced in these wider realms. I assume that's why people with some insight about all this have tended to suggest that he's the successor-apparent. As with Jim, who has moved into this Bowden- and Saban-like managerial/elder statesman role, what we're going to need isn't an evil genius on the next go round, but someone to hire and give appropriate rein and organizational support to make a genius organization with strong underlying tenets chugging the f along.

I love Harbaugh, but if his goal was to return Michigan to glory, winning a NC is a good start but not the full job. He needs a real succession plan.  Having Moore be on staff for 5 years is a good start, but you want someone who is completely ingrained in the culture.  As I mentioned about Carr and Moeller were with the program for 14 and 17 years respectively.   Moeller had a few years as IL head coach.  

If Harbaugh were to appoint Moore coach in waiting/asst HC for 2-3 more years with a lot of extra training/work.   Clean up the swearing, teach him to make weird euphemisms, etc. 

The biggest thing about Moore to me is that he has been a solo coordinator for all of one season. A great season, but just the one. And in some ways our offense regressed/got more spotty this year. 

No one signs a 2-3 year contract in college football.  It will be something like 6 which is a risk for a guy with minimal HC experience.

Everyone not named Saban and Urban and I guess Smart is a risk realistically.  Lincoln Riley was the next hot thing and has done zilch at USC.