Devin Gardner on CBSSports 2013 Heisman Watch List
This was also referenced in a Detroit News article, but since they didn't provide a link to CBSSports, I will not provide a link there.
Devin is listed in the "Others to Watch" section, behind front-runners like Aaron Murray, Marquise Lee, and /shuddersvomits Braxton Miller.
Of course it's too early and the sample size is ridiculously small. Still impressive to get named to anyone's list after such a short time. Other B1G mentions: Nebraska's Ameer Abdullah and Taylor Martinez, and Michigan State's Leveon Bell (just kidding).
Oddly enough, he (Chris Huston) does not include Johnny Football on this list.
December 9th, 2012 at 7:40 PM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 10:10 PM ^
I'd like to see Manziel win it again, because I'm tired of Griffin being the only two-time winner. Griffin's first Heisman was deserved, but his second (in 1975) was a joke - he scored four TDs all year. He won that one on reputation.
December 10th, 2012 at 7:35 AM ^
Some guy at DII Jackson State should of won...What was his name again?... Sweet somthing...
But here is the the voting that I found on the Google Machine.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/awards/heisman-1975.html
December 10th, 2012 at 5:24 PM ^
IAA not DII
December 10th, 2012 at 11:24 AM ^
How does a very good running back on a good football team carry the ball 245 times and only score 4 times? Even if they gave the ball to Pete Johnson (25 TDs) on every single carry inside the 5 yard line, you would think that Griffin would occasionally score 10+ yard TDs against the Indianas and Northwesterns of the world.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/ohio-state/1975.html
December 10th, 2012 at 12:48 PM ^
And it does seem strange that the supposed best player in the country would always be pulled at the goal line.
December 10th, 2012 at 3:36 AM ^
That was a great article, full of "probablities" as to why Johnny Manziel won't win another Heisman that had nothing to do with Johnny Manziel's ability to play football.
December 9th, 2012 at 7:46 PM ^
Don't get me wrong. I love the fact that Devin has started 3 games as QB and already his name is being mentioned for Heisman. But isn't a bit premature? Besides, isn't heisman talk typically a curse?
December 9th, 2012 at 7:58 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 8:46 PM ^
For example, Stanford QB Kevin Hogan has had four starts as a redshirt freshman QB.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:55 PM ^
Heisman winners are most likely to be a QB and almost always come from a power conference team- and the historically great teams do have an advantage- so being UM's starting QB puts you in a good starting position. Since most people expect UM to be a solid team next year and there are no other star players in skill positions he will certainly be a candidate in that sense- but I agree three games is awefully little to go off of.
I think it's incredibly unlikely because that list has some seriously great atheltes on teams that will liekly be better than UM next year. Plus- if he is a candidate I'd be more excited that it would mean our team nect year greatly overachieved and would be a title contender- no other way he's be in the conversation late in the year if that werent the case.
December 9th, 2012 at 7:46 PM ^
Haha. They put Richard Ash in the tags instead of David Ash.
December 10th, 2012 at 4:28 AM ^
They needed ash tags
December 9th, 2012 at 7:49 PM ^
Manziel's career will probably follow that of Tebow, save for the championships. He's a great story, but he set the bar so high at the beginning of his career that he'll never reach this level again in the nation's eyes. I think he's a really good QB, but I watched some of those games against better defenses and the kid struggled. Some of that is on A&M's talent, but he benefitted from a weak crop of contenders and emerging toward the end of the year.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^
A QB struggling against some good defenses? I never thought I'd hear of such a thing. Also, he benefitted from ripping up Alabama's defense. That was his trophy winning moment. You are right in that he will never win another Heisman. Only one guy, who didn't even deserve the second one, has done that because how do you top a Hesiman season?
December 9th, 2012 at 9:37 PM ^
Topping a previous heisman season should have no bearing on whether or not somebody wins the heisman again.
December 9th, 2012 at 7:51 PM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 8:06 PM ^
Inasmuch as he was the second leading rusher in the Big X that senior season, it was difficult, even then to understand how he could grab the coveted trophy twice. Michigan¨s Gordon(FlASH) lead the conference that year. It was a cool thing for the media to do I guess. I can think of no other reason why the runner-up in the conference would be considered the nations¨ best when he did no duplicate his previous standards.
This, I believe, is one of the reasons it will be most difficult for him to accomplish, speaking of Johny Football, of course. A&M does not carry the cach´e of an OSU and should the team falter a bit -OSU did not- their leader will be considered the reason, be it fair or not.
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Have a great navidad and ano nuevo should i fail to post again prior to.
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December 9th, 2012 at 8:14 PM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^
Manziel does not have the type of arm that NFL scouts like. That is to say, a strong one.
December 10th, 2012 at 3:12 PM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 8:14 PM ^
Forget all the Sept. Heisman talk. If our OL improves with the last couple of recruiting classes, DG may show the world what he can do.
I hope he works his tail off during the summer and becomes stronger and more accurate. Next year's schedule includes a few away games (Penn State, MSU, NW, Iowa). I would not be surprised if we win them all.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:40 PM ^
Our O-line will probably not improve next year, given that we'll have freshmen playing. In two years, if DG gets his 5th year, that's where I'd look for the chance for a special season.
December 9th, 2012 at 9:01 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^
Line is always the place where it takes the longest to develop. Linemen who perform at a high level before becoming upperclassmen are pretty rare. I'm sure hoping we manage it, but I'll be skeptical until I see them mashing some fools.
December 10th, 2012 at 1:00 AM ^
December 10th, 2012 at 8:47 AM ^
I think offensive line is always going to be a late developing position. It's so much about technique and pure bulk, it doesn't really matter if they get more coaching in high school. A 300-pounder with three years of college coaching is almost always going to be better than a 280-pounder with zero college coaching.
That's not to say that great high school linemen can't come in and start in their first or second year, but that's always been the case. Orlando Pace started as a freshman in the mid '90's. Why? Because he was huge and awesome. But he's a rarity. Kyle Kalis is the most technically sound offensive lineman I've seen come to Michigan, and despite playing on a team with a mediocre offensive line, he's redshirting as a freshman.
December 10th, 2012 at 10:04 AM ^
Glen Steele.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:20 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 8:21 PM ^
However, the schedule sets up nicely and there are not a lot of playmakers on the roster next year. He could be the one who carries UM on his shoulders.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:33 PM ^
It baffles me how Lee wasn't invited to New York this year, kids insane, I think he has a pretty good chance to win it next year.
December 9th, 2012 at 8:38 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 8:48 PM ^
Lee can't go pro. He's a true sophomore this year.
December 9th, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^
December 9th, 2012 at 8:43 PM ^
As far as Gardner winning, he has a chance. The schedule sets up pretty nicely next year with Notre Dame, Nebraska and Ohio all at home. All of those games should be nationally televised. It all just depends on how much he develops in the offseason, as well as how much the weapons around him develop. Will Gallon continue to produce, should he stay? Will Darboh and Chesson step up? Will the offensive line develop enough to give Gardner time to make throws? There are a lot of factors going into this before Gardner's name can even be mentioned in a Heisman conversation.
December 10th, 2012 at 11:52 AM ^
Green at Running back would certainly help...
December 9th, 2012 at 8:56 PM ^
It's funny that every preseason list thread is followed by at least one post that claims the list doesn't mean anything. Well no shit.
December 9th, 2012 at 9:00 PM ^
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December 9th, 2012 at 9:04 PM ^
Roughly 364 days until next year's Heisman ceremony... it's just never too early for the media, is it?
This is worse than Christmas ads in October.
December 9th, 2012 at 9:08 PM ^
I swear Aaron Murray is a 7th year senior, dude has been there forever.
December 10th, 2012 at 12:14 PM ^
Haha, I said the same thing below. There always seems to be a few guys like that...Adrian Clayborn, generic 4-letter-last-name Wisconsin RBs, etc...
Jason White...
wait, he was actually at Oklahoma for like 12 years