Defensive Coordinator Musical Chairs

GERG can scheme, he just does not have talent. I forgot who but one player said that last year when they were executing, the scheme was not working. This year the are not EXECUTING because of talent.

I know it might not seem that there was any execution last year, but in my opinion Schafer did not scheme with the talent he had, which was better than this year. I mean Trent is now sarting on Sundays.

We need a steady system and more TALENT.

Even if Tenuta would be a good fit in the long run, RR's job (likely? probably? maybe?) depends on the team's performance next year. The D would likely be worse off next year with Tenuta instead of Robinson in his 2nd year. Would RR take that gamble?

yeah honestly I thought the same things. I've said it before but- if Will Muschamp, Charlie Strong, or Monte Kiffin wanted to come here... well screw GERG I want them. I don't know if Tenuta belongs on that list. We also need to keep in mind that if he is so great it's likely the next HC would want him to stay put

1. Is Tenuta really that great? ND defense this year was no good. I don't remember when Tenuta started or whether last year's defense was any good.

2. Would Tenuta bring any really good ND defensive recruits along with him?

He has recruited his guys and ND has been getting top-10 classes and ND can't really stop anybody either. ND has had to outscorew everybody they play except Nevada.

I'll take my chances with GERG in his second year then Tenuta in his 1st. Michigan can'ttake a chance on a possible chemistry issue within the staff or between the staff and players.

Well Robinson's track record isn't too bad, the Broncos won two Superbowls with him as DC and the defense was pretty good, his defense with Texas in 2004 was pretty good, but he wasn't a good head coach. I think he just needs time, like all the coaches. Once he gets the right players for the scheme I think the defense will be pretty good. And plus, making the defense learn a brand new scheme next year would be disastrous, we need to progress and move forward with the schemes.

Have you paid any attention to ND's defense this season? Tenuta's group has gotten absolutely shredded - and it has no walk-ons in the two-deep.

Tenuta?

The defense is worse this year because the talent is worse......hello, we have a walk on starting at safety.

as DL coach and DC at UCLA throughout the 1980s.
UCLA was 40-11-3 in the PAC 10 during this time.
USC fans are still pissed off to no end about this era.

The Big Ten was win less against the Bruins while he was coaching defense there (and those B10 teams all finished with 7 wins or more).

I don't know man. GERG is probably a pretty decent coach. Maybe not a Jim Young or Bill McCartney, but possibly a Gary Moeller/Lloyd Carr DC, which means plenty of W's.

Besides, I've kind of fallen in love with those wise, shiny blue hairs of his on the sidelines. They're sparkly.

P.S. Tenuta is probably good at making awful defenses great. But once he's handed a bunch of 4 and 5 star recruits, the results go in an unexpected direction. Just compare his performance at Ga Tech vs. Notre Stain. And the other question would be this: Does Tenuta actually coach anything other than just blitz the crap out of people?

Changing the DC is a ridiculous idea. Can't grade the dude until all 11 starters are players other than walk-ons.

you're very strange

I am opposed to changing d-coordinators. I would like to see what Gerg can do when he gets to develop some defensive talent over time.

That said, if we were talking about possible replacements how come I never hear Dick Bumpas's name thrown out there?

Ummmm, no. People were happy that we were trying to expand the walkon program. There still walkons and freshemen shouldnt start as walkons. Thats more indictive of the fact that we have all of two good veteran players.

3-4 schematrically is as big of a change defensively as going to the spread from the Pro. There will be a drastic improvement in year 2 of the 3-4 if GERG is retianed. If he is not, you will have another year of our defensive players running around like lost puppies trying to learn, yet, another system.

enuta is a 3-4 guy as well with the same problem as GERG. RUnning a complex scheme with young inexperienced players who probably all played a 4-3 in High School; definitely not a 3-4 (no high school runs it).

We are running out an extremely base 3-4 with a ton of zone coverage because we don;t have the talent to play man. Once the corners learn man and the LB's learn the new angles and pass drops, the 3-4 is significantly more complex to read for opposing QB's and OC's. Year one in the 3-4 looks very similar to year 1 in the spread.

You will see grwoth next year. GERG must stay.

Note to self: use spell check next time, regardless of your emotional quick-typing pissedoffedness at certain posts made by people who know nothing about defense or football for that matter.

How about Lloyd freaking Carr, he recruited this sorry defense and is soley/souly responsible for the D this year anyway, myswell let the mofo coach em.

there is probaby a reason he is, as you put it, a lifetime assistant. i'm sure he has lot's of reasons. but mediocre assistants do not get HC jobs. so i guess i'll take the asst. that wants to perform well enough to even get considered a HC job.

what makes folks think that just because Weis might get fired that Tenuta will too. RR might have fired a bunch of assistants, but that doesn't always happen. If Tenuta's truly a top DC, might the new ND coach keep him????