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Dee Hart?

Why does anyone care if he comes to Michigan?  According to ESPN he isn't a homerun threat, he is a short, stocky power back, with quickness but lacking in speed.  Isn't that what our backfield is full of now?  He is what Vincent Smith was supposed to be, which supposedly is impressive but at leat Vincent used to be fast.  I don't think he provides a great threat with Denard in the backfield.  He is projected as more of a change of pace back...well read for yourself...this is what ESPN had to say.

 

Hart is a short, stocky runner with great quickness and productivity. A small explosive package. Utilizes his low center of gravity to his advantage as a runner; very difficult to get direct shot on him. Hits the hole with great downhill burst and authority. A decisive runner. Can slice back through the small cutback seams. Shows good lateral quickness and vision stretching it outside as well. Between the tackles he's difficult to wrap up cleanly. Runs with great lean and a powerful base. Absorbs the hit, keeps his balance and downhill momentum as good as any; like a pinball off tacklers at times. Runs hard and is a determined back who can move the pile and spin out of it. While he flashes good speed and burst through the second level, he is a short-strider and a bit quicker than fast. More of a back who will rip off the 10-15 yard burst than a homerun threat. Strong, sturdy and shifty but his shorter frame does bring up durability concerns and he appears to have peaked physically and maybe overall as a runner. Projects more as a change-of-pace runner who could come in and shred a tired defense with his great speed-to-power running style. Has polished hands out of the backfield to help get him more touches without having to carry the load. Overall, Hart is a great competitor and running back prospect who would be garnering more national attention if he just had a few extra inches.

 

 

Sounds like more of a Mike Hart...than a read option, td on any possession kinda guy to me.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:08 AM | ESPN is wrong. (Score:1)
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ESPN is wrong.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:12 AM | Erroneous.   ESPN is NEVER (Score:1)
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Erroneous.   ESPN is NEVER wrong.  (right?)

Touchdown Michigan!

September 30th, 2010 at 9:17 AM | Riiiiiiight. (Score:1)
Carcajous
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Riiiiiiight.

September 30th, 2010 at 10:12 AM | the leader of the wide world (Score:1)
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the leader of the wide world must be infallible

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:46 AM | Hey maybe look at his other (Score:1)
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Hey maybe look at his other offers? I don't think Alabama, Florida and auburn are going to offer a shmuck running back buddy.

Go Blue!

September 30th, 2010 at 10:29 AM | It was an honest mistake. (Score:1)
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They simply cut and pasted their 8 year old evaluation of MIKE Hart into the article by mistake.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:10 AM | stats for you (Score:1)
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"Orlando (Fla.) Dr. Phillips all-purpose back Demetrius Hart became the leading rusher in school history last weekend after an impressive night. In three quarters, he had 224 rushing yards, 68 receiving yards and four touchdowns. Check out how other top 2011 offensive prospects graded out over the weekend."

Status: Pending

September 30th, 2010 at 9:09 AM | canzior? (Score:1)
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canzior?

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:09 AM | SInce ESPN is infallible, I (Score:1)
Bill in Birmingham
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SInce ESPN is infallible, I will stop being enthusiastic.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:10 AM | I wonder what ESPN said about (Score:1)
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I wonder what ESPN said about Denardinho

Touchdown Michigan!

September 30th, 2010 at 9:24 AM | ESPN on Denard (Score:1)
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I don't have premium on ESPN, but here is their teaser about Denard. He was the #7 rated athlete in the class, a grade of 81, and #101 overall.

Evaluation

Robinson and ATH Brandon McGee could be twins in this class as both are about 5'11, very athletic, quick and actually very accomplished passers, but it will take the right offense and coaching staff to commit to them as QB's as opposed to making the move to corner or wide receiver...

 

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

September 30th, 2010 at 9:45 AM | Sooo... (Score:1)
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ESPN is omniscient? 

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
September 30th, 2010 at 9:11 AM | ESPN Recruiting Coverage Sucks (Score:1)
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Rivals lists Dee as the #1 All-Purpose back in the country and as possessing "Blue Chip Speed". 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michigan/football/recruiting/player-Demetrius-Hart-93883

ESPN is too busy sucking up to the SEC and pimping ESPN3 to follow recruiting accurately.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:11 AM | Dios Mio (Score:1)
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What has happened to this board in the past couple months?

September 30th, 2010 at 10:30 AM | Did someone say... (Score:1)
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They no longer call me Bisbiño

September 30th, 2010 at 9:12 AM | So.... what you're saying is (Score:1)
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So.... what you're saying is that guys like Barry Sanders aren't good at football? 

 

Fail.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:12 AM | News Flash (Score:1)
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The last running back named Hart that we got wasn't suppose to be very good either.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:12 AM | Canzior (Score:1)
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If indeed that is your real name.  Prepare to get negged beyond your wildest dreams. 

also, you are retarded. 

Journal Entry - Day 782 of living amongst inbreds - Actually heard this today, "I don't see what the big deal is.  All he was doin' was protectin' the players. What's wrong with that?" 

September 30th, 2010 at 9:20 AM | I've never done this before (Score:1)
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I find myself continually refreshing this page just to watch canzior point total plumet.  Its kinda fun.   Its dipped below 50 already. 

Journal Entry - Day 782 of living amongst inbreds - Actually heard this today, "I don't see what the big deal is.  All he was doin' was protectin' the players. What's wrong with that?" 

September 30th, 2010 at 9:41 AM | Oh shit! (Score:1)
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Negative numbers!  Its like the limbo.  Canzior, how low can you go?  Weeeeeee!  this is a fun game! 

Journal Entry - Day 782 of living amongst inbreds - Actually heard this today, "I don't see what the big deal is.  All he was doin' was protectin' the players. What's wrong with that?" 

September 30th, 2010 at 9:15 AM | was that written by Bill Kurelic? (Score:1)
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Sounds like his work to me. If Hart was looking at OSU he would be Barry Sanders 2.0. ESPN recruiting generally sucks.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:15 AM | I think I speak for most fans.. (Score:1)
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when I say that when it comes to ESPN scouting reports, I buy into the positive reports and ignore the negative ones.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:15 AM | ESPN (Score:1)
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probably thought Joey Harrington was the Lions saviour.  Just sayin.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:57 AM | The actually still believe he (Score:1)
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The actually still believe he is.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:19 AM | Your avatar (Score:1)
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Your avatar says it all. Seriously, an ESPN slappy? You should seriously get your information from another source.

 

Like a blind man at an orgy, I was going to have to feel my way through

September 30th, 2010 at 9:20 AM | While I don't think that just because ESPN (Score:1)
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While I don't think that just because ESPN says it we should stop going after him, I will say that in the past ESPN has been spot on at times.  If I remember correctly, two years ago ESPN was saying that Will Campbell would need time to develop, and didn't see him him being a big contributor right away.  In addition, they didn't see him being anywhere close to the world killer Scout and Rivals had him pegged as.  Meanwhile, they thought that Roh would be the best player to come out of that class (Obviously not true with DAAAANARD, but Roh has been 2nd or 3rd best from that class to this point).  

In the end though, none of the recruiting sites are perfect.  He seems to fit the mold of a Slaton type so its worth getting him on-board.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:20 AM | WTF (Score:1)
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is up with the Sprarty invasion, here?

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
September 30th, 2010 at 9:25 AM | Answer: (Score:1)
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Since negging costs people points, they are hesitant to neg bomb Sparty's out of this forum.

This presents a problem, as MGoBlog is now becoming Mlive-ish.

Neg bombs are the answer.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:41 AM | It is the board has gone to complete dogshit (Score:1)
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It is bordering on M-Live with all of the newbie posters.



Point total has to be raised this is getting absurd.

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:42 AM | I would rather neg bomb an (Score:1)
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I would rather neg bomb an idiot than hoard my MGoPoints.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:22 AM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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September 30th, 2010 at 10:03 AM | How can anyone read the ESPN evaluation as (Score:1)
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anything but positive? If I knew nothing else about him and I could guarantee they were right about him, I'd take him on my team right now. Why wouldn't anyone want a back like that?

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:29 AM | umm...seriously? (Score:1)
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He doesn't possess blue chip speed lol..thats a joke...i've seen his videos...many of them and he is getting run down from behind. 

Great stats...really relevant.  Against a school with a nationally recognized....BAND?    Guess how much that means at the college level?

I'm not saying he isn't a good back, he's a great back but he's getting a lot of attention and Mike Shaw is a damn good back ALREADY.  VIncent Smith might be the best blocking back on the team...and we haven't gotten a good look at the other 3 backs on the team...who are all big, physical runners with speed.   He's headlining our recruiting and I would rather focus our attention on a 4 or 5 star db/safety than a 4 or 5 star rb.  We should all prefer to have better secondary talent.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:32 AM | Yeah, every back that can't (Score:1)
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Yeah, every back that can't run a 4.4 40 really sucks. Mike Shaw is pretty good but he's not great. And he will be gone in 2 years, and then Smith will be gone, and then who will play? Smith isn't starting RB material. He's good enough when he gets 10 carries a game, but he can't take 25-30.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:33 AM | Dude, stop.  The hole you are (Score:1)
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Dude, stop.  The hole you are digging is getting deeper.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:33 AM | Yes, because the coaches are (Score:1)
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Yes, because the coaches are only allowed to recruit one kid at a time. 

 

From the sounds of it, ESPN should hire you...  you are about as good at talent evaluated as they are.

 

FAIL.

Go Blue!

September 30th, 2010 at 9:34 AM | what part of "broke school (Score:1)
goblue418
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Joined: 03/28/2010
MGoPoints: 3965

what part of "broke school record" didn't i spell right? that means constantly putting up numbers. and with a #1 RB don't you think more defensive recruits MAY consider coming here? If you've seen his videos then you've seen how fast he can change direction... and how easily he can score, and his punt returns..EOT

Status: Pending

September 30th, 2010 at 9:42 AM | suicidal? (Score:1)
bdsisme
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Joined: 09/19/2010
MGoPoints: 5480

neg bang, Neg Bang, NEG BANG

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

September 30th, 2010 at 9:49 AM | uh... (Score:1)
meals69
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Joined: 07/25/2008
MGoPoints: 1261

you're not from around here, are ya?

Fuck Urban Meyer!

www.facebook.com/franklin.kaiser

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena...."

September 30th, 2010 at 10:29 AM | 1. Troll. 2. You're right. (Score:1)
MaizeSombrero
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Joined: 07/19/2008
MGoPoints: 1938

1. Troll.

2. You're right. We have running backs with inifinite eligibility.

I'm a cucumber.  | Twitter

September 30th, 2010 at 9:29 AM | At first I thought this was (Score:1)
jrt336
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Joined: 01/16/2009
MGoPoints: 4490

At first I thought this was going to be sarcastic. Then I realized you're just not too smart. He sounds like Mike Hart? I would NEVER want another RB like Mike. He really sucked, right?

September 30th, 2010 at 9:37 AM | Thought the same thing. I was (Score:1)
GVBlue_is_still_blue
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Joined: 10/01/2009
MGoPoints: 3392

Thought the same thing. I was expecting it to be a shot at ESPN for their recruiting blowyness.

 Robinson also packed snow into a plastic bag for his return flight.
"Melted on the plane," he said.
 


 

September 30th, 2010 at 9:30 AM | Another typically piss poor (Score:1)
ChasingRabbits
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Joined: 01/19/2010
MGoPoints: 1239

Another typically piss poor ESPN evaluation:

"Dann O'Neill (Grand Haven, Mich.) could have fans forgetting about Jake Long in a few years."

The next time they get one right will be the first time.   

Go Blue!

September 30th, 2010 at 9:36 AM | overused but (Score:1)
Shaqsquatch
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Joined: 04/08/2009
MGoPoints: 3302

overused but obligatory

 

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September 30th, 2010 at 9:37 AM | Then. . . (Score:1)
MGlobules
Joined: 11/17/2008
MGoPoints: 5161

he must be good?

September 30th, 2010 at 9:39 AM | Kill me... (Score:1)
bouje
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Joined: 09/30/2008
MGoPoints: 4708

Kill me now..



Dee if you are reading this, this retard fish frog does not speak for the board or the Michigan fan base.



Come to Michigan! Our helmets gots wings on dem!

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

September 30th, 2010 at 9:42 AM | Mike Hart (Score:1)
michgoblue
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Joined: 11/16/2009
MGoPoints: 11211

My favorite part of this:  "Sounds like more of a Mike Hart"

Damn, why would we want a back who is like the leading rusher in the history of our program.  Man, it would suck to have that.

Also, Alabama and Auburn don't seem to troubled by his speed.

September 30th, 2010 at 9:43 AM | On a related topic, what the (Score:1)
mgobleu
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Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 2530

On a related topic, what the hell is all this hype over this "shoelace" guy? I mean, he's not terrible, but...

September 30th, 2010 at 9:44 AM | Nothing brought up in that (Score:1)
Run 2 Daylight
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Joined: 09/01/2009
MGoPoints: 2284

Nothing brought up in that ESPN scouting report makes him an unfavorable prospect for us. That's exactly what we need, someone with great vision and explosiveness to get through the seems this running game develops. Couple that with power and balance? That means he'll probably win some of those "1 v 1" mathcups all the experts say we generate, and then he could start crawling because there's no one left. It is so incredibly rare to find a runningback who torches defenders down the field, and the value of that really isn't that high compared to other skills, such as YAC, vision, and quickness, all of which Dee posses. He also has hands out of the backfield, which is great in a Rich Rodriguez system (See: Steve Slaton's flare screens run about 5x per game). I agree with the ESPN report (On some levels, I think he can be a feature guy here), he really doens't have homerun speed, but nobody cares because that isn't a telling attribute for anything really.

Go Blue!

September 30th, 2010 at 9:49 AM | Wait, so the OP only wants (Score:1)
bdsisme
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Joined: 09/19/2010
MGoPoints: 5480

Wait, so the OP only wants running backs who will take it to the house on every snap?  You quoted ESPN as saying " More of a back who will rip off the 10-15 yard burst than a homerun threat."  Is it a problem if he only rips off a dozen yards a carry?  Are you morally against 12-play, 80-yard drives?

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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