LKLIII

January 9th, 2017 at 12:16 PM ^

Maybe, but some of this is just physics.  I can't crunch numbers for you, but if the average NFL defensive player is 20 lbs heavier and 10% faster--and you're also playing about 4 additional games per year--it's not hard to imagine the toll that would take on your body.  Plus, it's been scientifically proven that our bodies are at peak potential at about age 25 years old.

You put in a mobile QB with those parameters & good luck keeping that dude healthy to the age of 30 of so.

I think it's reasonable & expected that the new breed of NFL QB we will see is MORE mobile than previous QBs, but it will be in the mold of burning defenses occasionally to pick up a first down, not a true dual threat kind of QB.

AA Forever

January 9th, 2017 at 7:00 PM ^

NFL defenses are full-time professionals.  Unlike college teams, they can take all the time they want to practice handling a gimmicky offense and a mobile QB.  You can milk that kind of system for two years, maybe three, in the NFL before the defenses get your number and your QB gets beat up.  See Chip Kelly for the latest example.

amir_6

January 9th, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^

The reason all the 5* kids are flocking to Columbus is not because they love the program. OSU is turning into the CFB equivilent of UK Hoops, kids want to get the hell out as soon as possible.

M-Dog

January 9th, 2017 at 4:18 PM ^

But like UK, they don't have to go to any classes.  Somebody will take care of that for them.  

They can just hang out for the minimum amount of time allowed, and then leave for the Pros.

Let's not kid ourselves, there are a lot of kids that find that appealing.

 

BursleyBaitsBus

January 9th, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^

Or you know they accomplished everything they set out to do in school. Undefeated vs Michigan, win the big ten, and win a national title. No reason for them to stay unlike some of our players with unfinished business.

Ty Butterfield

January 9th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

You would think this would all catch up to OSU at some point. Still, with Kevin Wilson now on staff I think their offense will probably be improved next season. It was nice to see OSU get shut out but this may actually end up being worse for Michigan. A close loss may not have motivated Meyer to make any coaching changes, but a shut out and Wilson being available ended up being the perfect storm.

AA Forever

January 9th, 2017 at 7:05 PM ^

Everyone thought they had lost too much this year to be a top team, and they still went 11-1 and made the playoff.  In 2014, everyone thought they were too young and a year away, and they won the NC with a third string QB.

People need to stop waiting and hoping for OSU to have an 8-4 season.  It's not going to happen with Meyer there.  10-2 is their floor for the forseeable future.  

The Claw

January 9th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

of a not as good Reggie Bush.  And Bush didn't do a ton in the NFL.  Had some good years but not great.  And this year finished with negative yards.  I think it was -6 yards for the year. Not a great stat to hold for probably the rest of eternity.  Yikes.

buckeyejonross

January 9th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^

Totally different player than Reggie Bush. Bush was a RB in college who became too small to be an every down RB in the NFL. Samuel, despite being basically the same size as Reggie, was more of a WR who runs routes downfield and can translate his WR chops to the NFL, whereas Bush couldn't. In Bush's best season he only had 43 receptions. Samuel had 74 last year. Bush also had 200 carries as a junior while Samuel only had 97. 

The Claw

January 9th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^

In college Bush was used mainly as RB and Samuel is the inverse.  But in the Pro's Bush was much too small to take the every day grind of being a RB in the NFL so that went away after a short time and he was used as 3rd down back and flanker.  This is what I see happening to Samuel.  Fast ellusive, putting him in spots to take advantage of his speed.  Exactly what happened with Bush.  

buckeyejonross

January 9th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^

My point was Samuel is a WR. He can run the ball like a RB, but he's experienced at running downfield routes and playing the WR position. He had 74 receptions this year and ~50 of them were downfield as opposed to little swing passes like Reggie Bush used to catch. Reggie Bush didn't split out and run routes as a WR in college and couldn't do that by the time he got to the NFL. Samuel can go play an entire game at WR in the NFL like Percy Harvin used to do. He did it a lot at OSU.

Glennsta

January 9th, 2017 at 1:18 PM ^

I think we'd rather take the chance that whoever replaces him won't be as good as Samuels.  Samuels is damn good, the most explosive player on that roster.

SD Larry

January 9th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

at OSU longer than they have to.  Unless you are a troll, you can just feel the turn is coming back to Michigan's favor in the game and rivalry.  Michigan played  better football  than OSU did for most of  this year.  Nothwithstanding OSU's recruiting prowess, I think it is highly likely Michigan will win more of the big games than it loses over the next 10 to 15 years.  At least it will be much more competitive than it has been in recent years.  I think Kareem Walker is better than Mike Weber, and I have no idea who are best running back is right now, but we have a lot of talent there.  Samuel is a big loss for OSU.  Go Blue ! 
 

mgoDAB

January 9th, 2017 at 4:11 PM ^

I think the seemingly large exodus of OSU players to the NFL over the past couple years is more of a result of them meeting all of their goals as players and as a team. As players, many of them earned All-B1G and All-American honors as well as other awards and recognition. And as a team, these guys are undefeated against Michigan, have won a B1G championship, have made the CFP twice, and have a national championship.

 

I think there is some credibility to what you are saying, especially since Harbaugh has seemingly closed the gap (or has gotten very close to closing that gap, considering we still lost to them this year) between Michigan and OSU. To think that two seasons ago, we were coming off an embarrassing 5-7 season with losses to Minnesota, Rutgers, Maryland, etc. and OSU was coming off a national championship is incredible. Hopefully we get there and I think we do get there, but only time will tell.

JWG Wolverine

January 9th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^

Is it just me or have we had a little too many "Ohio State player to the NFL" threads? C'mon guys, let's not go down to their level of rival obsession. What's next, crossing out Os? We are better than them, let's show that by example.

Eye of the Tiger

January 9th, 2017 at 9:04 PM ^

I mean, his touches did go up this year, but Samuel was THE playmaker on that offense. Probably could have had 1,000 each rushing and receiving if they'd featured him like they should have (IMO). 

Seems like an okay dude as well, for a Buckeye, so best of luck to him.