December 5th, 2020 at 6:57 PM ^
Lol Indiana holds Wisconsin to 6 points. They skull fucked us after not practicing for 2 weeks and now we’re hearing we’re extending Brim Hokebaughgez. Fucking. Awesome.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:42 PM ^
Not only that, but Northwestern held the Badgers to 7 points in the last game. UW has scored 62 in its last three games and 49 came against us.
At a bare minimum, we need a new defensive coordinator.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:13 PM ^
Graham Mertz looked like donkey dick in all three of those games and yet Wisconsin had no problem annihilating Michigan despite his lousy showing, because Michigan is pathetically awful at everything but punting and kick returns (which they do a lot!).
December 5th, 2020 at 9:01 PM ^
Their best wide receivers both got injured against us...
Neither played against nw, and the best one didn't play again today.
Wisconsin does not have wide receiver depth. Once they have guys go down their skill players are dogshit. They were just fully staffed playing us.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:42 PM ^
Tough shit, they're man-ball and tight end oriented anyway. That's the price you pay when you put all your stock in developing an o-line and run game and then get stonewalled against good D-lines
No tears for bucky
December 5th, 2020 at 10:46 PM ^
Like 2016 in the big house?
December 5th, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^
i get that, browns guys have struggled. but if the head coach and culture remain the same, coordinator changes will have limited impact. harbaugh appears to be a 9-4 coach.
maybe a new DC helps but theyll still report to the same HC, with the same arrogant michigan admin/alums and the same questionable culture.
its all about points these days and finding consistent QB play. apparently harbaugh cant do that at michigan
December 5th, 2020 at 9:58 PM ^
Indications are that Harbaugh is pretty hands-off on the defensive side of the ball. Brown schematically is quite a bit different than Durkin was. A coordinator change there actually matters.
Now, I'm not saying this program's only problem, but shit . . . we've gone from not being able to stop OSU's offense to not being able to stop anyone.
December 6th, 2020 at 9:14 AM ^
Sad but true. If the rumors are true about extending JH, the first thing he has to do is get rid of Don Brown
December 5th, 2020 at 10:01 PM ^
I can't stop laughing at Brim Hokebaughgez. I may need to change my handle to that.
December 6th, 2020 at 9:13 AM ^
You're not wrong. But at the same time, does this trip down the transitive property superhighway tell us anything we didn't already know? We watched all the games. We've seen the product on the field. The vast majority of us knew that it was going to be bad after MSU. This team is what it is. Time to move on rather than get ramped up every time another team does well and you can make an argument that this is further proof that we're trash.
I get why Brian, Seth, and Co have to continue to write about this; it's their job. I look forward to the day where we as readers get to the "acceptance" stage concerning this season rather than just continuing to spout off, in every thread, about how much we suck. It would make the reading experience better for all.
Tl;dr - it's a bad year. Get over it.
December 6th, 2020 at 4:03 PM ^
It’s time to get back to a regular season. So we can get back to spouting how much we suck in regular non covid season threads.
December 5th, 2020 at 6:57 PM ^
It’s amazing what a coach with some “pep” can do for a team.
December 6th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
Totally agree. Also, Indiana's second team qb is better in every facet of the game than anyone we've had in 15 years. ANYONE!
December 6th, 2020 at 3:44 PM ^
Totally agree. Also, Indiana's second team qb is better in every facet of the game than anyone we've had in 15 years. ANYONE!
December 5th, 2020 at 6:58 PM ^
Gotta tip your cap to Indiana.
Heck of a win and season. Allen has got that program in a great place.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:00 PM ^
How many of those IU players would start at Michigan?
Coaching matters and we have NONE
December 5th, 2020 at 9:24 PM ^
I'd say almost all of them.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:01 PM ^
So IU is a football school and UM is a basketball school.
Fitting for 2020
December 5th, 2020 at 10:05 PM ^
And a baseball school.
December 6th, 2020 at 10:31 AM ^
And a hockey school.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:02 PM ^
While Michigan has no excuse for their mediocrity, it does say something about the state of modern college football that Indiana can have a once in a lifetime historic season that includes wins snapping a 30+ year losing streak to Michigan, a win over Penn state, and a road win at Wisconsin, yet they won't even win their division (let alone make the playoffs) because they lost one game by a td in Columbus
Yet Clemson will get a playoff berth again because they tried really hard in the one game they played against a team with a pulse
December 5th, 2020 at 7:06 PM ^
If our game next week is cancelled against OSU, pretty sure they do win the division by default?
December 5th, 2020 at 7:12 PM ^
The big ten is going to change the rules to let OSU go to Indy. It's fucking sickening to watch this conference constantly capitulate to OSU.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:35 PM ^
Constantly capitulate?? LOL.
I hate OSU as much as you, but come on.
They lose like a game a year. They are a fucking juggernaut.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:50 PM ^
Depends on your metric. In terms of regular season wins and losses, yes
But in terms of playoffs, not so much. Since Harbaugh coached his first game at Michigan...
Record in playoffs:
Alabama: 6-2
Clemson: 6-3
OSU: 0-2
Clearly a step below those programs
December 5th, 2020 at 8:20 PM ^
Alabama and Clemson are indeed the two best by quite a margin and I’d argue Alabama is a tick or two above Clemson. Every other team is fighting for table scraps
December 5th, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^
Practically speaking, I would take OSU's last decade of success any day of the week.
But technically, OSU still UNDER-performs given their recruit-rankings (Meyer was second-to-none, quite literally). They out-recruited these schools but did not turn it into the proportional amount of wins.
Yes, I understand not everyone "loves" recruit rankings or advanced metrics, but barring that, this is the case.
December 5th, 2020 at 11:18 PM ^
I’d do anything to see UM at 0-2 in the playoffs.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:45 PM ^
Would it really be so bad if a one loss Indiana was passed over for the Big Ten title game for an undefeated team who beat them? Also, the Big Ten would have little to no national respect if it wasn’t for Ohio State’s success.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:54 PM ^
Depends on how many wins the undefeated team has. It may be a 7-1 IU and 5-0 OSU team going into championship week.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:13 PM ^
Yes, I too remember how much respect the country was offering the big ten after OSU got shutout by Clemson
They said, "wow, thank you osu for being so good"
December 6th, 2020 at 12:57 AM ^
Also, the Big Ten would have little to no national respect if it wasn’t for Ohio State’s success.
im ok with this. In all honesty though, this has been a terrible year for college football. Overall poor quality games.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:17 PM ^
They need the CFB playoff money so they need OSU to get into the playoff. If any B1G has a shot of making the playoff, they would bend over backwards to do so.
December 6th, 2020 at 3:02 PM ^
Agree as would most conferences. And let's be honest, how legit would a B1G championship game be between Northwestern and Indiana when an undefeated OSU beat Indiana head to head. The B1G has no one to blame for this mess than themselves. They could have started at the same time as the other conference and had some flexibility in the schedules yet chose to push it out when everyone predicted Covid would explode. Now they have a mess. What a bunch of dumbasses.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:05 PM ^
Indiana has made a great case for the Big Ten to not change the rules.
December 6th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
The only reason the B1G is having a season it to get OSU into the playoff. They will change every rule and judgement call in order to get it done.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:17 PM ^
The big ten will do everything in their power to get a team in the playoffs, including changing their rules for championship eligibility
December 5th, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^
It's just stupid for an undefeated Ohio State team that beat Indiana on the field to not represent the East in the B1G championship game.
It's not like the 6 game rule has any historic precedent. It is a made up rule that makes no sense under the circumstances.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:04 PM ^
I agree, but it just further highlights the big ten's incompetence. Why the fuck would they make that rule in the first place? Did they really think there would be some hilarious circumstance in which Illinois went 1-0, protested playing the rest of their games, and then demanded to be put in the big ten championship? That was never going to happen
December 7th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^
Which is the prudent thing to do when every conference member is facing massive shortfalls in funding and a team making the playoff brings in millions in additional revenue. I am sure every school would gladly sign up to receive that check.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:08 PM ^
You have no idea whether this is a once in a lifetime historic season. For all we know Allen is building a program that is consistently the 2nd best in the east and can challenge Ohio St.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:15 PM ^
I didn't say this was a one off
I'm saying a team that has been historically impotent has had an amazing season and should be rewarded for doing as good or even better this year than some historically and recently dominant programs like Clemson
It's not disparaging to say Indiana isn't going to play in Indianapolis, that's just the likely outcome
December 5th, 2020 at 7:50 PM ^
Once in a lifetime is by definition a one off.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:25 PM ^
If you wanna get technical, I guess every person who dies from now until Indiana's season opener next year will have experienced a once in a lifetime season, and those lucky enough to still be living will have to see how Indiana does in subsequent seasons. Happy?
December 5th, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^
No ... but that’s not your fault.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:11 PM ^
IU has relied on a heavy upperclassmen roster and Penix has carried them heavily. Penix is an elite college football QB and Allen coaches sound defense. Sometime you just get a good mix of talent and experience. IU is having a phenomenal season. Look for them to be 7-5 again next year though and kind of hang around there. They won’t have another season like this again unless the stars align. An elite QB can make so much difference in college football. Indiana is showing you how. They’ll lose a ton of their talent this year though.
December 6th, 2020 at 5:24 AM ^
Why would they be back down to 7-5 next year? Eligibility doesn’t count this year so they’re returning everyone on their team that doesn’t transfer or go to the NFL. Do they have some first round picks that are potentially leaving on that team that nobody else is aware of?
December 5th, 2020 at 7:20 PM ^
They lost in overtime to the number 2 team in the country without their starting QB...