college football arrests [are a useless and horrible thing to report]
[Ed-S: cleaned this up a bit because this is one of those things that lazy bad reporters report every year without any sense of context because these reporters are lazy and bad at finding information that isn't fed to them but still need to troll for views. Unbolded is the OP]
A report came out showing the schools with the most arrests over the last 5 years. UM tied for 19th with 14. It should be noted that the data is a little vauge and slightly misleading as it isn't in relation to to just players, but people associated with the football program
[Ed: And there's no sense of scope, and some schools cough cough Michigan State and Florida State cough cough are notorious for covering these up, and smaller schools with fewer working beat writers wind up with far fewer discovered, so this ends up more of a list of which schools are in the news the most, not anything having to do with actual criminal behaviors]
(Not that that's a large number). That being said, It's all over my newsfeed and several forums. Stonum is almost 1/4 of the arrests.
[Best to use this link http://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2015/8/19/9178541/colleg… ]
As you can imagine, Spartan fans are in an uproar about how we're a buch of criminals. I've not taken the time to compare the data for the reasons for the arrests, but in my brief review, the data includes criminal citation. I didn't know what that was, so looked it up. That's when an arrest isn't made because the crime doesn't merit an arrest. Jake Butt for instance was issued a criminal citation. Is this an arrest or not? What was Butt citated for? The original research doesn't seem skewed toward anything, so this isn't per say a hatchet job on UM, but it very likely may be a hatchet job on the perception of crimes in NCAA football.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^
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August 19th, 2015 at 10:11 PM ^
August 20th, 2015 at 4:19 AM ^
Pretty sketchy stuff. Sounds like they tried to hide it and they got caught.
No surprise the local media ignored it.
August 20th, 2015 at 5:01 AM ^
August 19th, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^
Heavy guys sliding on hoods of cars will always have a special place in my heart.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^
Remind me the last time our football players wore ski masks and beat the crap out of kids in a dorm room
August 19th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^
we just don't have a moral high ground here. Leave it be.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
What was Frank Clark wearing?
August 19th, 2015 at 2:54 PM ^
not a mask?
August 19th, 2015 at 2:55 PM ^
His "bad idea" jeans.
August 19th, 2015 at 4:59 PM ^
Nice comparison, seeing as how Clark was booted off the team immediately.
August 19th, 2015 at 7:52 PM ^
August 19th, 2015 at 5:27 PM ^
But whatever makes you feel better. Interesting how this false statement is still out there among U-M fans. So much for being smarter and more objective than other fans.
August 19th, 2015 at 9:21 PM ^
August 19th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^
Lol at criminal citations being included. My freshman year I got one of those for jumping off a bridge into the Huron River.
It's amazing how some writers manipulate data to get the results they want.
August 19th, 2015 at 4:11 PM ^
We used to jump off that bridge during Spring Term all the time.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:44 PM ^
If you pay, you can access the reports. i did a google search for Jake Butt arrest and came up blank. Found hidden in a news article referrencing this report a statement that Jake Butt received a Criminal Citation. He was suspended I believe last year for 1 game and I'd assume that lines up with the citation.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:43 PM ^
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August 19th, 2015 at 2:44 PM ^
Of course, the writer would have to be an mlive writer who graduated from MSU but works the Michigan beat...
August 19th, 2015 at 2:46 PM ^
had just collectively decided to ignore this? I guess not.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:50 PM ^
I missed that meeting.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:57 PM ^
but this has been out for at least a day or two.
August 19th, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
I was kinda hoping the board would just all quietly agree this is stupid because it always is. But I knew it wouldn't be, and was prepared.
August 19th, 2015 at 10:57 PM ^
August 19th, 2015 at 2:47 PM ^
I forget which player it was who attacked a parking garage gate. Non-violent / non-DUI crimes don't register as anything to me anymore.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:51 PM ^
This should go well...
August 19th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
but people associated with the football program.
Thanks, Minick.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
IMO it's what programs are the most unethical. So, what plays the biggest role in being unethical...arrests, NCAA violations, roster management/oversigning, etc? I only bring this up because an OSU fan posted this because they weren't high on the list, but if you consider the other two they climb the list quickly.
August 19th, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^
can accurately be described as covering up rape allegations.
August 19th, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
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August 19th, 2015 at 3:19 PM ^
Here's another that you might find acceptable:
August 19th, 2015 at 7:45 PM ^
The NCAA is bad. I am glad I put that out there before it is us.
August 20th, 2015 at 11:16 AM ^
So, allegedly you don't mind Pryor getting free cars? Yeah, I'm over certain violations, but when guys like Pryor or Manziel (allegedly) are making tens of thousands of dollars signing stuff that's a pretty big deal. You should be earning an extra $10,000/year as a student signing stuff just because you're popular unless of course we want to make it legal for everybody and place it into an account that the student-athlete can get after graduation. But, when a guy like Harbaugh refuses to break the rules, but others allow it, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage.
August 19th, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^
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To put in perspective 12 points for 14th, the winner of last year's Fulmer Cup was Cal Poly with 77 points. Followed by William and Mary at 57 points and then Texas AnM at 48 points.
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August 19th, 2015 at 3:33 PM ^
msu was just sued and lost over not complying with FOIA requests concerning this stuff....
they kept a guy with multiple DUIs because he's a playmaker
Guy threatened someone with a gun, who also had previous drug charge -reinstated
basketball player with dui....
A former play admitted to cheating drug tests in bball...
No action taken criminally or by the school on the Payne appling
Where are the arrest videos posted of all those guys?
Did the coach pick up all these guys from prison as is custom?
August 19th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^
We currently have a player on our team who is starting ol not missing any games after violating probation on a dui arrest and a high up staffer not being suspended or fired for his DUI. Taylor Lewan also threatened a sexual assualt survivor with no repucussions from the football team. Glass houses and all. Sometimes members of an organization do bad things, you don't judge the organization by that, you judge it by how it reacts and unfortunately Michigan tends to react like every big time program and not do much at all.
August 19th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^
We have had our own incidents like you said.
The op said msu people are shaking their finger at this, I am just pointing out they have zero room to talk.
Also I am pretty sure Minick was suspended and served it.
August 19th, 2015 at 5:31 PM ^
It's because U-M fans are always claiming they have the best character guys and are superior in every way to other programs. MSU fans are just pointed out that is absolutely false. Get it?
August 19th, 2015 at 10:06 PM ^
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August 19th, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^
Yeah I'm sure Brandon and Hoke would be gone if this team beat Baylor in a new years day bowl last year or had won the big ten championship two years ago. The difference between the way msu and we handled it is that our football team was losing their basketball team was winning.
I'm not saying any msu fan gloating over this is stupid, I'm saying us trying to downplay this like we are any different from the vast majority of other schools is stupid as well.
August 20th, 2015 at 3:18 AM ^
I have yet to see a comment from you that isn't miserable and dishonest.
August 19th, 2015 at 3:46 PM ^
For those that follow other metrics, the Fulmer Cup standings for this latest cycle that I could find were from June, so take it for what it is worth as they might be out of date now, but here's the link - LINK
As of June 19th, the top five in the standings (see the article for offense / point distribution):
1) Auburn
2) Indiana
3) LSU
4) Southern Miss
5) (tie) Georgia Southern / West Virginia