college football arrests [are a useless and horrible thing to report]

Submitted by poseidon7902 on

[Ed-S: cleaned this up a bit because this is one of those things that lazy bad reporters report every year without any sense of context because these reporters are lazy and bad at finding information that isn't fed to them but still need to troll for views. Unbolded is the OP]

A report came out showing the schools with the most arrests over the last 5 years. UM tied for 19th with 14.  It should be noted that the data is a little vauge and slightly misleading as it isn't in relation to to just players, but people associated with the football program

[Ed: And there's no sense of scope, and some schools cough cough Michigan State and Florida State cough cough are notorious for covering these up, and smaller schools with fewer working beat writers wind up with far fewer discovered, so this ends up more of a list of which schools are in the news the most, not anything having to do with actual criminal behaviors]

(Not that that's a large number).  That being said, It's all over my newsfeed and several forums. Stonum is almost 1/4 of the arrests.  

[Best to use this link http://www.cougcenter.com/wsu-cougars-football/2015/8/19/9178541/colleg… ]

As you can imagine, Spartan fans are in an uproar about how we're a buch of criminals.  I've not taken the time to compare the data for the reasons for the arrests, but in my brief review, the data includes criminal citation.  I didn't know what that was, so looked it up.  That's when an arrest isn't made because the crime doesn't merit an arrest.  Jake Butt for instance was issued a criminal citation.  Is this an arrest or not?  What was Butt citated for?  The original research doesn't seem skewed toward anything, so this isn't per say a hatchet job on UM, but it very likely may be a hatchet job on the perception of crimes in NCAA football.

Gofor2

August 20th, 2015 at 5:01 AM ^

Without the excuses LOOK finally ranked higher than OSU in something football related. Remember these facts when talking about " those criminals" at other schools. It would be worse for UM if UM prosecuted rape Uploaded with Imgupr

TheFugitive

August 19th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^

Remind me the last time our football players wore ski masks and beat the crap out of kids in a dorm room

Blueblood2991

August 19th, 2015 at 2:37 PM ^

Lol at criminal citations being included. My freshman year I got one of those for jumping off a bridge into the Huron River.

It's amazing how some writers manipulate data to get the results they want.

poseidon7902

August 19th, 2015 at 2:44 PM ^

If you pay, you can access the reports.  i did a google search for Jake Butt arrest and came up blank.  Found hidden in a news article referrencing this report a statement that Jake Butt received a Criminal Citation.  He was suspended I believe last year for 1 game and I'd assume that lines up with the citation.  

MGoStrength

August 19th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^

IMO it's what programs are the most unethical.  So, what plays the biggest role in being unethical...arrests, NCAA violations, roster management/oversigning, etc?  I only bring this up because an OSU fan posted this because they weren't high on the list, but if you consider the other two they climb the list quickly.

MGoStrength

August 20th, 2015 at 11:16 AM ^

So, allegedly you don't mind Pryor getting free cars?  Yeah, I'm over certain violations, but when guys like Pryor or Manziel (allegedly) are making tens of thousands of dollars signing stuff that's a pretty big deal.  You should be earning an extra $10,000/year as a student signing stuff just because you're popular unless of course we want to make it legal for everybody and place it into an account that the student-athlete can get after graduation.  But, when a guy like Harbaugh refuses to break the rules, but others allow it, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage.

BigBlue02

August 19th, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^

Didn't MSU just reinstate a guy after they suspended him for spring and summer after he waved a gun at someone he cut off because they honked at him? Yeah, I don't really care if Spartans think we have a bunch of criminals.

Swazi

August 19th, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^

Per 2014 Fulmer Cup standings, Michigan was 14th(12 points), Nebraska 19th(9 points), and Ohio State 24th(8 points).Notre Dame was tied with UM.

To put in perspective 12 points for 14th, the winner of last year's Fulmer Cup was Cal Poly with 77 points. Followed by William and Mary at 57 points and then Texas AnM at 48 points.



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JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

August 19th, 2015 at 3:33 PM ^

msu was just sued and lost over not complying with FOIA requests concerning this stuff....

they kept a guy with multiple DUIs because he's a playmaker 

Guy threatened someone with a gun, who also had previous drug charge -reinstated

basketball player with dui....

A former play admitted to cheating drug tests in bball...

No action taken criminally or by the school on the Payne appling 

Where are the arrest videos posted of all those guys?

Did the coach pick up all these guys from prison as is custom?

ak47

August 19th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^

We currently have a player on our team who is starting ol not missing any games after violating probation on a dui arrest and a high up staffer not being suspended or fired for his DUI.  Taylor Lewan also threatened a sexual assualt survivor with no repucussions from the football team. Glass houses and all.  Sometimes members of an organization do bad things, you don't judge the organization by that, you judge it by how it reacts and unfortunately Michigan tends to react like every big time program and not do much at all.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

August 19th, 2015 at 3:51 PM ^

We have had our own incidents like you said.  

The op said msu people are shaking their finger at this, I am just pointing out they have zero room to talk.

Also I am pretty sure Minick was suspended and served it.

 

ak47

August 19th, 2015 at 4:46 PM ^

Yeah I'm sure Brandon and Hoke would be gone if this team beat Baylor in a new years day bowl last year or had won the big ten championship two years ago.  The difference between the way msu and we handled it is that our football team was losing their basketball team was winning.

I'm not saying any msu fan gloating over this is stupid,  I'm saying us trying to downplay this like we are any different from the vast majority of other schools is stupid as well.

LSAClassOf2000

August 19th, 2015 at 3:46 PM ^

For those that follow other metrics, the Fulmer Cup standings for this latest cycle that I could find were from June, so take it for what it is worth as they might be out of date now, but here's the link - LINK

As of June 19th, the top five in the standings (see the article for offense / point distribution):

1) Auburn

2) Indiana

3) LSU

4) Southern Miss

5) (tie) Georgia Southern / West Virginia