Clemson’s Xavier Thomas to Miss Season With After Effects of Covid
Sorry, I misread the headline. *Most of Season..
Article says he got sick in March. And 4 months later he's nowhere near ready to play.
to Anyone who still minimizes this disease/Spouts anti mask narratives/claims the entire world is still overreacting:
you are dumber than a rock
Nonsense. Youngsters are immune to Covid. He should've been working out harder while positive to keep himself in playing shape.
I agree with what you are saying but there are an equal number of people making this a bigger deal than it is as well. (imo obviously)
Cases under age 20 in AZ as of today - no exclusions for pre-existing conditions - 22,180 cases, 11 deaths - 0.049% fatality rate----Older range - age 20-44 - 90,012 cases, 235 deaths, 0.26%
Wear a mask, protect at-risk people, and be rational. Football is voluntary and unless you intend to go into full lockdown and close campuses I doubt players are any more apt to contract the disease than any other student on campus - probably safer given the supervision and testing at the facilities and the relative lack of free time compared to the common college student.
Whether campuses can and should be open is another question entirely - It appears that most of the CFB and MLB outbreaks are due to humans being human = being stupid and acting selfishly........ Don't know how you combat that with a thousands of pent-up from quarantine college kids due to arrive on campuses.
It’s not Just a death or survive issue. There are many people with lingering issues that can cause real problems.
...such as Xavier Thomas.
Well, not really. Did you read the article? From what was actually said, it sounds more like he put on extra weight due to not being able to work out while sick with separate bouts of Covid, then strep throat. All that put him behind the 8-ball, and at a point where he's not ready to go for the season. No mention of any long-term or lingering health effects.
Thomas “probably picked up 10 or 12 pounds during the whole quarantine thing,” Swinney said. This from a story on August 6. The SEC is opening their season on September 26. That would be over 7 weeks. Do you know many cases where a coach announces more than 7 weeks before the season that a player is going to miss most of the season because he came into camp 10 to 12 lbs overweight?
Did you miss this sentence
“He had a hard time when he got back with just his breathing, and again, that’s a combination of COVID, his strep throat, being a little heavy,
The word “combination” does in fact suggest covid is part of the issue.
A part, but not the entirely, no. In reading the whole article it does sound like there are other things going on than the Covid. And coaches, good coaches, are not going to tell you if there are other unspoken things going on too. It may even be motivational for all we know.
In short, those here who think the Covid is nothing short of the Black Death are going to read into this what they want to read into it, those who do not, will not. Same shit, different day.
August 7th, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
There are three factors stated in the article 1) 10 to 12 lbs overweight 2) strep throat, 3) Covid. How often does a coach announce 7 weeks before the season that a player is going to miss much of the season because he had strep throat or is 10 to 12 lbs overweight?
August 7th, 2020 at 10:06 AM ^
you do realize that Clemson is not in the SEC correct?
August 7th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
Got me there. Point still stands. Clemson has 9 games on or after October 3. If he’s just a little out if shape seems awfully premature to suggest he has to sit out all but 4 now.
Exactly. Scarred lungs, brains... Who knows what else. And to have a covid battle that went that long is incredible.
Doesn’t sound like he battled COVID that long if you read the article. He put on weight during quarantine then got sick with COVID,then got strep which kept him out even longer to get back in shape. Not discounting the disease, I’m sure his immune system was weakened but he’s gonna be ok.
August 6th, 2020 at 10:19 PM ^
I think a big part of the difference is that players are almost certainly at higher risk for school related activities than a typical student. For instance, Northwestern, Illinois, Maryland and Rutgers are all primarily doing classes on-line. Clearly football players who are practicing, working out, traveling and playing in games will have significantly higher risk than students at those schools for school related activities. Even at a school like Michigan with the hybrid model, students will spend much less time in classrooms than players will in close contact activities related to football.
But the players are working out and traveling all within the same bubble. I'm not sure people realize just how much younger people especially are ignoring all social distancing rules. The parks are absolutely full of the young crowd playing sports and hanging out. Unless we are actually cancelling school and kids are staying home, I don't think they are being exposed any more than the average student who will be living on campus and ignoring most social distancing rules will be.
There's been a ton of outbreaks worldwide associated gyms and high intensity work outs. Any indoor practice facility, weight rooms, training rooms, locker rooms, etc. are going to have stagnant air and be a complete petri dish. There's way more exposure for football players. There's reason we've seen a bunch of football outbreaks of 20+ players.
Is the air in the weight rooms any more stagnant than the air in crowded bar rooms and apartments with crowded party goers? Because that is where all the students are going to be every night, virtual learning or not.
Apparently you missed my point that in at least 4 big ten schools, students are doing primarily distance learning. They don’t have to be living on campus. Sure, they may take voluntary actions that expose them, that is very different from football. If those schools have decided The exposure from educational related activities is too dangerous, why is the exposure frim football activities so much safer?
August 6th, 2020 at 11:02 PM ^
There are not an equal number overreacting and under reacting.
overreacting is how you get results like south korea
appropriately reacting is how you get results like europe
underreacting is how you get results like the US of A
August 6th, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^
Outbreaks are also due to viruses doing what viruses do, which is spread regardless of efforts to stop it.
August 6th, 2020 at 11:42 PM ^
Tell that to Western Europe
August 7th, 2020 at 12:26 AM ^
Stupid meets stupid. Science is a thing. Empirical data is a thing.
It just seems like the counter-argument for anti-maskers and anti-federal mandate hounds to wield has ALWAYS been “don’t overreact”.
they said it when there were 100 deaths, they said it when there were 10,000 deaths, and they’re saying it now.
so, to hell with them.
August 7th, 2020 at 10:05 AM ^
This argument is so wrong. It’s not the deaths but what happens AFTER C-19 recovery. People (yes ... young people) have LONG TERM issues.
Like the Dutch? Or the Danes?
https://www.newsweek.com/netherlands-mask-policy-1522917
People: Please stop using Mgoblog comments for any info about covid. There is a lot of bad, generalized, sensationalized, and politicized stuff out there and I know how people love to crap on others for having different thoughts but that is so unproductive right now.
August 6th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
As it is a novel virus, by definition, the scientific community just doesn't know yet what the mid to long term effects are of Covid-19. This is one of the main arguments for why there should not be a season if it indeed is exposing more people to the virus. Yes, 99% of young healthy individuals will "recover" or even be asymptomatic from the initial exposure and contraction of the disease, but there is already evidence of longer term affects to the lungs, circulatory system, other organs, etc.
So much we don't know yet about the disease, from why people with different blood types are affected differently to how exactly Covid-19 attacks different individuals.
This. It's SARS for fuck sakes. Potential for permanent fibrosis in the lungs. We have no clue about long term effects.
August 6th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
Is it from Covid? Sounds like he’s way out of shape and put on 15-20 pounds.
August 6th, 2020 at 10:23 PM ^
This is really what you took from the article?
August 6th, 2020 at 10:38 PM ^
yikes. The way the rest of the world has treated covid vs America's way should be a wake up call.
Should have been...
August 7th, 2020 at 10:07 AM ^
Most Americans are not bright to see the forest through the trees unfortunately.
August 6th, 2020 at 10:40 PM ^
He gained the weight while he was sick. What about this is unclear to you?
August 7th, 2020 at 10:01 AM ^
Where did the 15 or 20 come from? The article says 10 to 12, but I guess that doesn’t sound “way out of shape” enough for your point so you change it?
August 6th, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
Yep, please tell me more about how this is just the flu.
I sure hope the anti-masker’s quest to “own the libs” was worth it for them.
Dr. Drew has been notably absent since the death toll eclipsed his 30,000 severe flu season mark. People listened to that fool. And they still believe what he said then.
Dr Drew hasn't been absent at all. Just listened to couple of his podcasts last 10 days where he interviews doctors who are on the front lines and what they are doing.
JFC, dude. You just won't stop, no matter what is happening in front of your face.
"Dr" Drew said all kinds of irresponsible, demonstrably false things about this virus, and you're still listening. You are the problem. You, and everyone like you.
August 7th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^
So you're completely unfazed by Dr Drew, a quack doctor, completely dismissing and downplaying the virus initially and now you continue to listen to him?
August 6th, 2020 at 11:22 PM ^
But he would have had this response to the virus - that we will all surely be exposed to - whether playing football or not. I think we have to try to “normalize” our lives to some extent.
August 6th, 2020 at 11:45 PM ^
How about we take the steps necessary to mitigate the spread and then we can actually live normal lives.
Life is 95% back to normal in Europe.
But people aren't taking those steps. Even with Whitmer making it the law that you have to wear a mask, I still see the occasional person in Home Depot not bothering with one. Probably about the same ratio as it was before it became a law. I see huge gatherings at the park on a daily basis. I'm sure when/if college is back in session, crowded house parties will be the norm again (I can see fraternity parties going underground as they are typically more aware of liability issues).
If people aren't even taking these basic steps, what exactly are we accomplishing?
It really has been amazing to see how selfish some people are in regards to not wanting to wear a mask. They cite "personal freedoms", the Constitution, and just being an American to why they do not have to wear one, but in reality, they are only hurting other Americans. I thought back in April this will change and people will pull together to get this thing beat. but I was wrong about that.
It has become so political that if you are on the side of the WH if you put a mask on your ball will fall off because you cannot own the libs. What is shocking is how easy a huge chunk of the country is just falling into a 1984 dystopian and doing it with a huge smile on their face. Point being when driving to a historical site yesterday I passed a house flying a flag with Rambos body and a rocket launcher with 45's head on it. Good thing the feet we're shown otherwise the bone spurs might be too much.
You really think that? I’m going to keep limiting my contact with others and wearing a mask, washing hands assiduously, etc. when I must go out. In other words, I don’t plan on being exposed to it, thank you very much. So far so good for me—and a majority of the population.
There's no way of knowing he would have had the same response. The viral load one is exposed to appears to be a huge factor in an individual's response to their exposure, so while yes, he may have gotten sick down the road, there's a high likelihood Xavier Thomas initially came in contact with a relatively higher dose of the virus.
Football, by its very nature, is sure to be proven to be a very dangerous sport as covid is concerned.
Wait... You mean 12-18 men (depending on the formation), facing each other, bent at the hips, sweating and breathing hard for 50-60 plays per game is risky behavior in the time of COVID? Surely you are just part of the evil liberal media and are trying to make me think for myself. Your user id, for example, is Rob F. Does the F stand for False, Fictional, or Fabricated?! I smells a conspiracy!!!1!!!one!!!
No way a season gets played. You will start seeing top players opting out all over the place now and they would be silly not to do so. The permanent damage the disease can do to your respiratory system might cost some players their careers, even if it doesn't kill anyone. There will be the contingent of players who will opt out because of high risk friends or family members and another contingent that is concerned by their immediate and future health. The dominoes will fall.
August 7th, 2020 at 10:56 AM ^
But I thought that there was no way that COVID could seriously affect college athletes? /s