Malarkey

October 15th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^

I mean we’ll probably look back on this and realize things like the nba bubble and cancelling games for Covid tests was an overreaction. 
 

Covid is a population health crisis; but the impact individual sports teams have on community spread is a drop in the bucket. The concerns of myocarditis were legitimate—but as time goes on, they do not look to be coming to fruition. And that is good news for everyone. But leagues are kidding themselves if they think nipping a Covid outbreak on a football team is going to have any noticeable impact on the spread in the community at large. 

Malarkey

October 15th, 2020 at 11:54 AM ^

Right. And it was the right approach to take initially without a doubt. But when you realized you overreacted, shouldnt you adjust the appropriate level of reaction?
 

And now that we’re we’re 7-8 Months into this, we have enough data to realize what was an overreaction and what can cautiously return to a semblance of normal 

 

lockdowns? Initially Worth it just in case, but Probably not happening again, at least not to the same extent

 

closing schools? Initially worth it just in case, probably not happening again in most of the world

vablue

October 15th, 2020 at 12:02 PM ^

I think you missed the point.  It seems like an over reaction because the action worked.  The point being we have only 200k dead because we locked down and it feels like an over reaction.  But if you don’t lock down you have over a million or many more dead, and suddenly that lockdown looks like a really good idea.

Malarkey

October 15th, 2020 at 12:04 PM ^

I got the point. 
 

I said that i think we’ll look back on how we’re handling college football season and realize it was an overreaction. 
 

Not that it was the wrong decision to take in a time in a time of uncertainty; just that it was an overreaction in retrospect
 

bacon1431

October 15th, 2020 at 1:13 PM ^

Before the SEC started, I saw someone say that ~25% of games had been cancelled or postponed. I would say that it's proving that the college football world is underreacting to the pandemic. SEC didn't seem to have too many issues early on, but now we've seen some disruption to their schedule. We will see how it plays out, but I'm guessing your assertions are going to be wrong. 

BroadneckBlue21

October 15th, 2020 at 3:13 PM ^

There was no overreaction. The Steps taken to lessen the impact have done what the smart virus experts said, which is reduce spread and reduce death and disability. One has to be very dumb to not understand this. Are you very dumb, arrogant, or intending to be sarcastic?

Are you the kind of person who says taking insulin and watching his diet is an overreaction to diabetes? Seems like it.

Don

October 15th, 2020 at 12:51 PM ^

"The concerns of myocarditis were legitimate—but as time goes on, they do not look to be coming to fruition."

I hope you're right, but I believe it's far too early to arrive at the medical conclusion that heart issues aren't a long-term concern. That will only be revealed over time by ongoing research.

OSUMC Wolverine

October 16th, 2020 at 1:36 AM ^

I havent bothered to try to find other research, but I wonder if there has been large population screening for myocarditis related to other viral infections in the past of persons without cardiac specific symptoms. It would be interesting to know if subclinical inflammation of the myocardium with viral infections is more of the norm with many viruses than we think.

oriental andrew

October 15th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^

things like the nba bubble and cancelling games for Covid tests was an overreaction. 

But leagues are kidding themselves if they think nipping a Covid outbreak on a football team is going to have any noticeable impact on thejust  spread in the community at large. 

This may be a bit cynical, but the point of things like professional sports bubbles is only partially about preventing community spread. A factor you can't discount is that there is HUGE money on the line - for the teams, investors, networks, ancillary vendors, etc. These players and coaches are a financial investment, and the games are how they generate revenue. They are trying to protect their investments and revenue streams. 

So is it an overreaction? For the average American, absolutely over the top. When you've got billions* of dollars on the line? Not so much. 

*Yes, billions. In 2019, the NFL raked in over $15 billion. MLB over $11 billion. NBA over $9 billion. NHL had over $5 billion and even the MLS had about $1 billion in revenue in 2019. The top 4 leagues made $40 billion last year.

They're not shutting it down and if bubbles is what it takes, then bubbles it is. 

As for college, a bit of a different dynamic there, but the NCAA had about $1 billion in revenue and the top schools are all earning over $100 million from CFB alone. And the top conferences made over $700 million in revenue last year. 

Don't discount the power of money at play here. It's not just about community spread when you start talking big money sports. 

Farmhouse Funk

October 15th, 2020 at 11:40 AM ^

December 12th is going to be quite the day for College football. 

They may have to go with the High School Football O'ramas(sp?) This was basically the pre-season for HS football. Where you have 4 teams 2 on each side that play 1 quarter against the other 2.

So on one side you have Florida/Georgia and on the other LSU/Alabama. 1st Quarter: Florida vs LSU, 2nd Q: Georgia vs Alabama, 3rd Q: Florida vs Alabama, and 4rth Q: Georgia vs LSU.

Or I guess everyone can just play double headers and such?

PopeLando

October 15th, 2020 at 11:51 AM ^

Fall surge is starting.

~8k new cases reported in Oklahoma over the past week, ~11k in Ohio. Wouldn't be surprised if the Texas schools start postponing games soon (a ridiculous ~31k new cases in the past week), and California too (~23k)

lhglrkwg

October 15th, 2020 at 11:53 AM ^

NFL and CFB are going to approach the same problem around the same time in December. Cases are going up again nationally and I imagine that's not going to change soon. These leagues are going to run out of time to reschedule all of their games most likely. Can't really do double headers in football so I imagine some make-up games that end up being of no significance at the end of the season will just be cancelled