joeyb

July 28th, 2010 at 6:11 PM ^

That depends on how you define a lie. If the definition of "lie" is "telling an untruth" then the paradox holds true. If the definition of "lie" is "knowingly or intentionally making a statement with the intention to deceive" then the paradox fails regardless of whether the statement renders true or false.

Actually, now that I give more thought to the whole thing, Pinocchio would have to say "My nose only grows when I tell a lie" the be an equivalent true-because-it's-true situation as opposed to the true-if-false, false-if-true situation.

CleverMichigan…

July 28th, 2010 at 6:27 PM ^

I've seen lying defined as "telling a known untruth expressed as truth." I've also seen people argue about the use of the word "now" at the end of the sentence.

However, I would love to see Pinocchio use his nose-growing divination powers to make a really awesome thread about his predictions for the season.

DreadlocksFast

July 28th, 2010 at 5:47 PM ^

I'm actually responsible for the current version. I can't take the credit though, since I just remade it after someone changed the article to the original form. I believe it was up there for about a month until someone butchered it and took out the line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ray_Guy_Award&action=history

Dude from June 17th was the original author of the line. Then you can see I put it back in on the 26th.

MGoRobo

July 28th, 2010 at 6:05 PM ^

They will soon invent a new award to be given annually to the best deputy of the space emperor. it will be called the Zoltan is Emperor Trophy.

Red_Lee

July 28th, 2010 at 6:46 PM ^

I like it, but "Zoltan is Emperor" is kind of like "Hitler is Fuhrer" when it comes to obviousness. I would go with Zoltan THE Emperor Trophy or The Space Emperor Trophy or simply The Zoltan. 

In fact, when I think about it, the only person that would ever deserve such a bad ass trophy is the Space Emperor himself. So either award the trophy every year to his almighty or never award it to anyone, unless some extremely lucky lady (I can only think of a few even worthy) is planted with the seed of Zoltan and gives birth to the second coming of Zoltan. Then the award could be passed down through generations of Space Emperors. 

Edward Khil

July 29th, 2010 at 1:29 AM ^

...who noted that Brian Cook won the Ray Guy Award in 1999.  This was done sometime after bamill010's post at 4:55, above.

 

It feels true to me.