Burgergate: More info from Chris Balas on the level 1 sins of Jim Harbaugh
You can't make this stuff up.
Chris Balas is stating in The Fort message board...
"the reason Jim got a Level One, apparently, is because two committed recruits stopped by during COVID for an impromptu visit and he took them to the Brown Jug for a Jug burger in the morning. They found a receipt, but I guess he wasn't completely honest about it."
https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/morning-report-and-this-is-classic.846005/#post-14134633
January 6th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^
found the real culprit:
January 6th, 2023 at 12:27 PM ^
OH MY GOD!! HE'S STEALING ALL THE BURGERS!!!
January 6th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^
Death penalty. And not in the program-killing sense. I mean someone needs to go to the chair for this.
January 6th, 2023 at 11:57 AM ^
Can we really believe anything Balas says?
January 6th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
This is satire come to life.
January 6th, 2023 at 11:58 AM ^
Harbaugh told the NCAA he put both ketchup and mustard on his burger. The NCAA, who has been secretly capturing sewage from his office, was unhappy to find no ketchup residue in his shit.
Michigan self-reported the violations, and now Harbaugh wasn't "truthful" about a hamburger. This is a joke, right?
January 6th, 2023 at 11:59 AM ^
The burgers were within the NCAA rules but the added cheese was a violation.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Maybe it was the upgrade from chips to fries?
January 6th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
First thing's first - collapse the tunnel so this sort of thing never happens again!
January 6th, 2023 at 12:03 PM ^
I hope this is a joke because if this is actually the reason then Warde better tell the NCAA to piss off and then Jim needs to challenge Mark Emmert to a milk chugging contest to assert dominance.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:22 PM ^
Emmert's gone
January 6th, 2023 at 1:16 PM ^
That is my bad, i thought the change over hadn't happened yet. Seems Emmert will be there until June 2023 as a consultant based on the ncaa's new president announcement on their website.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
This can't be serious.... should have gone to Culver's.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:05 PM ^
Get ready for Harbaugh's 2023 Halloween costume
January 6th, 2023 at 12:06 PM ^
Remember Sean Miller lying to the NCAA about negotiating 6 figure payments to players pre-NIL, and then getting caught via FBI wire taps. The NCAA did not punish him AT ALL, and barely any punishment for Arizona. Over 6 figure payments in a full on scheme. We are talking cheeseburgers during a no-contact period here.
So self impose a 1 scholarship reduction and few official visits for next year and tell the NCAA to fuck off.
If this is really as innocent as Balas is reporting, I would not blame Harbaugh at all for leaving the college game.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:27 PM ^
Why self-impose anything? Just tell the NCAA to piss off and let them decide if they want to argue Sean Miller's dealings vs a cheeseburger.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Why follow the NCAA rules as long as what you are doing is morally sound? It was illegal to help people escape slavery but it was still the right thing to do regardless of what rules the authority at the time had in place. I am not comparing the two but this idea that rules have to be followed because they are rules is ridiculous, particularly when every school cheats period. As long as you are not doing immoral things like faking giving kids their education (UNC) or paying for prostitution (Louisville) who cares. In my opinion within the ncaa framework there is nothing wrong with buying kids food or compensating them in another manner.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:34 PM ^
There is nothing wrong with buying a kid lunch, especially when he/she is already committed to your program. But trying to legislate 'morality' is largely bullshit. Personally, I see nothing wrong with prostitution and believe it should be legal. I'm not paying for it, but if some woman feels good enough with herself to sell it, why should she be denied? Isn't that part of capitalism? Regulate it if you want (would need to be, honestly), but why is it outlawed? Because some guy that read a Bible decided he should be the decider of all things 'moral'...
I know I'll get negged by the pious among us, and - much like my thoughts about these NCAA 'infractions' - I don't give a shit. Just making the point that 'morality' is largely in the eye of the beholder.
January 6th, 2023 at 1:09 PM ^
I agree but I think the issue when it comes to the world of sex work currently is the rampant human trafficking. Maybe morality wasn’t the best choice to articulate my point, I was more thinking of things that are harmful like setting a kid up for failure by not providing a true education or in the Louisville case not knowing if those women were acting on their own free will. To your point though, everything will have some level of subjectivity but that delves into a way deeper discussion that is extremely nuanced and I admittedly do not have the answers for. All I know is that for what happened at Michigan it should be a non issue.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Sign the extension Jim! Go Blue!
January 6th, 2023 at 12:18 PM ^
And hang the damn banners. Go Blue!
January 6th, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Sounds like a nothingburger. I’ll show myself out.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:09 PM ^
As much as I agree with the general sentiment to burn down the NCAA, it's probably more prudent to let the lawyers work behind the scenes to make this go away with a trip to Dean Wormer's office and a stern talking to.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:10 PM ^
In this day and age of NIL, we are talking burgers? Mother fucking burgers?
Hold the pickle please.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:36 PM ^
Da hell? Now, if you have a 'shroom burger, sure, hold the pickles. Otherwise, load up those dill's!
January 6th, 2023 at 12:10 PM ^
If Michigan gets any punishment for this it's outrageous. LSU publicly total the NCAA to eff off. For the NCAA to threaten anything to Michigan for hamburgers would be absurd.
I hope the AD doesn't cooperate with this. The only folks who seem to get punished by the NCAA anymore are the ones who cooperate
January 6th, 2023 at 12:11 PM ^
That's what they got? For real?
The only crime here was not taking the recruits to Ray's Red Hots around the corner instead - I don't even like hot dogs, but always made an exception for that place.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:13 PM ^
Absolutely reprehensible behavior. I’m embarrassed to have a child who’s an alum.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:14 PM ^
Won’t someone please think of the children
January 6th, 2023 at 1:17 PM ^
Jim already did, and the NCAA is having none of it. The NCAA doesn't make money from providing kids with a meal, so they must stamp out that kind of activity. Greedy assholes. People should protest on the lawn of the NCAA president and officers.
If Jim does leave (and I hope he does not), I hope he goes absolutely scorched earth on the NCAA.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Should have gone to Blimpy Burger and paid cash. The NCAA is a joke.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Cheeseburger, cheeseburger, cheeseburger!
January 6th, 2023 at 3:42 PM ^
no coke. pepsi.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:18 PM ^
FFS, every team is using NIL to pay players to come there, and the NCAA is coming after us over this, literal, nothingburger?
Fucking great.
edit: Oh, people already made this joke, well the indignation stands.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:24 PM ^
Honestly, I can't blame Harbaugh for wanting to hightail it out of the NCAA and back to the pros. It got to Beilein after a while. And after all the bullshit Harbaugh has put up with from college football - specifically with regards to the camps and trips rules and the pathetically poor officiating - this almost seems like a ridiculous effort to give him one more push out the door.
I hope he stays and goes scorched earth on everybody and runs it up on everyone and doesn't lose a game for the next three seasons. That'll be his punishment to the NCAA.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:37 PM ^
He would be playing into the NCAA hands if he left. Steel that spine coach.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^
I like your idea...
January 6th, 2023 at 1:22 PM ^
I mean, after a certain point those officiating debacles start to not look like mistakes. If the NCAA specifically and repeatedly targets a school and a coach, and that school ends up on the short side of multiple game-changing indefensible calls, it starts to show a pattern. It sounds crazy, until you compare the Michigan treatment to that of UNC, LSU, etc.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^
God created the NCAA so that even FIFA would have somebody to laugh at.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:30 PM ^
OH NO THE HORROR! DEATH PENALTY IT IS THEN.
January 6th, 2023 at 1:06 PM ^
Lunacy, we're on the same page. For a while, people were downplaying this as something that "wasn't really a major infraction". Burgers at the Brown Jug? OMG - the fallout from this should be incredible.
I'm really glad they didn't go to Pizza Bob's... or worse yet - Pizza House. I think Jim might actually appear at the Pizza House on occasion.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:36 PM ^
Who the fuck is they? Is the NCAA following around the southern schools or just people and teams they dont care for?
January 6th, 2023 at 12:37 PM ^
All this over a few hamburgers. Good grief.
Can we get the NCAA back in front of the Supreme Court again? They seem like they’re ready to dynamite the NCAA.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^
I was promised a blue wall
January 6th, 2023 at 12:38 PM ^
(Stealing this from Scott Bell)
This offense is so egregious that the NCAA should wipe the entire 2020 season from the books.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:49 PM ^
in the morning..... that's the part that got him in trouble.
if it was lunch, sure get a Jug burger... but in the morning, they should have had Hippie Hash at the Fleetwood.
January 6th, 2023 at 12:52 PM ^
Though it's a bit off Central Campus - I would suggest Avalon for breakfast.
January 6th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
I think there was a burger place in Texas where the waitresses were topless. They had jugs but not sure if they had jug burgers?