Branden Jennings on verge of flipping to Maryland?
Thanks Warde! You totally fucked us with your stupid “answers” today. Top linebacker commit in this years class, Branden Jennings, on verge of flipping to Maryland after reaffirming his commitment to Michigan just a couple days ago is all you need to know about how bad Harbaugh and Warde are fucking this program. First it was Xavier worthy, and now this. Jaydon hood also may be flipping to Miami soon. But of course, contract talks until after the season only.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:23 PM ^
Season should be over today. Screw the crossover game.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:23 PM ^
Idk why but I think the fact that this thread is about Branden Jennings and the very first comment references a crossover is funny.
Yes I know the spelling is different.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:31 PM ^
It’s a sign of things to come. Regardless of Harbaughs future, I’d imagine the performance on the field this year is more than enough to make recruits and their parents reconsider their decision. It’s going to be a long 2 weeks.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:12 AM ^
Based on recent comments that is a no.
What is causing flips/doubt is the appearance of instability in terms of who is the coach.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:21 AM ^
What evidence did you use to determine it was that and not the on the field performance?
December 9th, 2020 at 12:25 AM ^
Well, they did recently reaffirm their commitment to Michigan on Twitter. This days after the PSU game.
Recruits tend to think they can come in and fix things. A poor record isn’t necessarily the killer you think it is.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:27 AM ^
What comments? I stated that the performance would serve as reason enough for recruits to reevaluate, not the sole reason. Worthy has been deemed gone for weeks now. Do you not think the teams performance this year affects recruiting? I know you’re a blind Harbaugh loyalist but even you must understand success matters.
edit: If your sole data point is JJ reaffirming his commitment regardless of the coach then you’re lost. It also doesn’t help your argument.
December 9th, 2020 at 2:08 AM ^
A bunch of them did it. Hope you read your charts more closely than posts you're replying to.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:39 AM ^
I know you are fanatical anti-Harbaugh guy, but you should read articles or go on Twitter where these comments were made. You are talking in ignorance of what has been available for days.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:26 AM ^
Absolutely. He was re-affirmed *until* the 'Nah, we're Michigan. We'll do things in our own good time. People won't decommit!' idiocy. We're starting down the road I've feared for awhile with dithering athletic admins.
If we do part ways with Harbaugh, expect the real pain to begin. The Spartan/Bucs trolls that plague you will have plenty of opportunity as we take our own sweet ass time finding a coach without a Hackett like process, and lose talent via the portal and through decommits.
This is so frustrating.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:31 PM ^
Plenty of time to gobble up some under the radar recruits from the NE. Relax! Don Brown is on it and Harbaugh will have three months to turn those kids into Big Ten starters.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:49 AM ^
I hope you mean Nebraska
December 8th, 2020 at 11:35 PM ^
Do you actually believe contract talks are until after the season? If the two sides actually wanted another year, they'd know by now and Warde wouldn't have joined today's presser. He'd have waited a week or two and joined one to announce exactly that. And keep the recruiting class intact. This sounds like they're trying to intentionally implode the recruiting class which is a tell...
I think the mid Dec date (right around signing day) is thrown out to give JH time to test the NFL waters and gets some things lined up so the two sides can mutually part ways. Harbaugh becomes an NFL coach without getting fired by his alma mater. Michigan avoids paying a $10M buyout and firing one of its sons. It's a win-win on both sides.
In that backdrop, recruiting classes will always implode amidst a coaching change.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:46 PM ^
As long as we don't lose JJ McCarthy, most other recruiting loss sins can be forgiven. Perhaps the next guy can poach a few at positions of need -- interior DL and corner.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:03 AM ^
"Loss sins" was probably a typo, yet still correct.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:46 AM ^
Even if JJ McCarthy stays on board, what have you seen from Harbaugh that makes you think he will properly utilize the kid’s talents here?
I’d be seriously evaluating my options if I’m that kid.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:39 PM ^
What did I miss? How do you know Jennings is about to flip?
December 8th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^
It’s posted on the Maryland and Michigan 247 boards. A Maryland insider said that a flip is likely...
December 9th, 2020 at 12:33 AM ^
Yeah that Michigan Insider JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO breaking that news on the Michigan board while no Maryland people have put any CBs in.
December 9th, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
Thats comical that he would want to flip to maryland as a defensive recruit.
Maryland literally doesn't send anyone to the nfl that plays defense.
Did we have a shitty year on defense? Yes, but Jesus to think you are better off playing defense on the worst run defense in the conference is laughable
December 8th, 2020 at 11:45 PM ^
We've recently been through this (twice). A wide majority of kids commit to a coach not the school. There is no certainty they stay with a change.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^
I’ll take an entire lost recruiting class to be rid of Harbaugh.
December 8th, 2020 at 11:57 PM ^
Amen to this. This class isn’t going to save Harbaugh or the program. Get a new coach hired and maybe some wait until late signing and you can flip them back.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:00 AM ^
That sets the new coach back even further. You make decisions based on the criteria you have at hand. There is enough to go ahead and make this decision. You either keep him or let him go. Waiting is either imploding the class for his replacement or for Harbaugh himself. Either way this is stupid.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:06 AM ^
I concur but it appears Warde is willing to burn the recruiting class in exchange for arranging a mutual parting of ways with Harbaugh. This is inexcusable. Assuming people are correct that Harbaugh is leaving. Not firing him now hurts the program but helps Harbaugh save face. Manuel is acting like Harbaughs friend and former teammate, not his boss or the AD of Michigan. That’s the problem.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
Even if he keeps Harbaugh, sounds like we’d sweep out most of his staff. You’d lose half the class that way too.
I agree that Manuel is handling this wrong though.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:48 AM ^
Careful, there are plenty of Warde apologists on this site. They will be comin gto argue with you based on the hiring of Mel and Juwan.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:07 AM ^
I think we fans fail to realize it’s not Harbaugh. It’s the politics of Ann Arbor/UM. No coach will take this team to the top bc of this. The culture is everything and frankly UM doesn’t care enough about football and will never even half prioritize it. The university leaders care too much about being “woke” which is why they don’t like Harbaugh and want a yes man coaching their team. Warde fits the bill perfectly as an AD also. Michigan football is where it’s at bc of politics and will never be what we want it to be. Sorry but that’s the truth.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:11 AM ^
Michigan spends more on football than all but 3 schools in the country. Texas, TAMU, and Ohio State. What more do they need to do prioritize it? This stuff cracks me up, we give our coaches everything they could possibly want.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:13 AM ^
When I see a team that has been coached up to the very best of their abilities, then we can look more into recruits and 5* and culture and politics. Until then I’ll think about the missed tackles, lack of qb development, attrition, repeated off sides penalties, poor clock management, and idiotic short yardage play calls. None of that has a damn thing to do with culture or politics. It’s poor coaching plain and simple.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:15 AM ^
Any explanation for why this only effects the football program?
December 9th, 2020 at 12:23 AM ^
Yes, "wokeness" is the reason the university that overpaid for Harbaugh now doesn't like him. Not because he's bad at coaching football.
December 9th, 2020 at 1:02 AM ^
Harbaugh isn't bad at coaching... He just hasn't beaten osu. That's it.
December 9th, 2020 at 6:21 AM ^
Have you watched this season?
December 9th, 2020 at 9:22 AM ^
Michigan has not been good in their 6 games this year.
Why does that overrule what he did at USD, Stanford, SF, and at U of M from 2015-2019?
December 9th, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^
Ehh... the coaching wasn't particularly good in 2018 and 2019 either.
...and even when the record was good the first couple years, there was still a lot of bad coaching (see: clock management).
December 9th, 2020 at 6:59 AM ^
This whole 'overpaid' thing also needs to stop. When he was hired in 2015 he was two years removed from a Super Bowl, and had two NFC Championship game appearances in only 4 NFL seasons. Add to that his building of Stanford into AN NCAA power in only 4 years. He absolutely earned the contract he was given. He hasn't lived up to it since, but he's still on the extension he was awarded based on his 2015 and 2016 seasons - which were pretty damn good.
It's time for him to go because he isn't earning, today, what he was rightfully awarded yesterday based on previous results.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:46 AM ^
"... university leaders care too much about being “woke” ..."
Here's a good example of how the messaging of a political party can be effective.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^
And in 16 months this stupid board will be nattering on about how their new lightnin' boy, if they got him and the athletic department doesn't settle for Hoke 2.0, 'didn't have any talent! The cupboard was bare! Stupid Harbaugh! After lining up a good recruting class we wanted rid of him so we dithered and screwed around and burned it down! And this new guy can't recruit! We're Michigan! This is Unacceptable!'
December 9th, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^
ya might want to stay off Michigan football message board the next few weeks (months?) if you can't handle bad news. It's not going to get any better. Also please stop posting. Thanks in advance.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:09 AM ^
He will transfer from Maryland when Locksley inevitably is fired.
What did people expect to happen with the noise about staff dismissals?
December 9th, 2020 at 6:13 AM ^
I’ve been saying this for weeks, and been negged a few times for it to boot. Kids mostly commit to coaches. You can’t cannot get angry at the coaches for losing commits or failing to bring new commits in, when the prevailing narrative from the fanbase and media is that Harbaugh and/or his staff is on the way out the door.
I don’t blame kids for wanting to play at a school where the guy that recruited them is still going to be there next season. And I don’t blame coaches for not being able to convince those kids to come here when their own job is in doubt.
Thats why waiting as long as we have to make a decision is detrimental to recruiting efforts. Warde/Jim could even come out and say they have agreed in principle to a contract extension, and they’re just working on the details.
Whether you keep him or not, the radio silence itself is damaging. So you can’t fault Harbaugh in the slightest bit for what is happening to recruiting the last few weeks or will happen in the coming days.
December 9th, 2020 at 8:16 AM ^
Yep. It’s insane how they are handling this.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:14 AM ^
The recruiting class is down the list of importance this year. The right coach and parting of the ways in a professional manner is of most importance. The recruits were essentially all told today that no decision will be made by signing day thus showing them M understands if they go in another direction and they have that option.
Yes, many recruits pick a coach but there are many others picking Michigan. Warde likely knows the ones who are in no matter what and won’t make decisions based on a few kids who may or may not turn out to be stars (many hopefuls have turned out to be less than great as we all know).
We will learn more in the coming weeks and hindsight will be clear. In two years we can bitch about or praise the decision. It’s rather obvious Harbs is not being retained and all of the things worried about on this board again are down the list of things to be worried about.
Getting the right coach who brings a new mentality along with sound strategy and who wants to be here is most important.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:18 AM ^
Plus, new coach will have a month or so to add guys. I am not overly concerned about losing two or three recruits.
December 9th, 2020 at 12:24 AM ^
I could care less about doing a parting of the ways in a professional manner. If you are Warde you have to do what's best for Michigan and not what's best for Harbaugh.
December 9th, 2020 at 2:00 AM ^
That’s because you’re a fucking whiney retard who doesn’t understand that it’s, “COULDN’T care less”, nor that what’s best for Michigan’s future is SPECIFICALLY that the transition is handled in a professional manner as it’s imperative that the coaching community doesn’t feel that Michigan treats coaches poorly. This, “fuck him .. fire him now!” is emo monkey shit you fling around because you’ve never made a very public, expensive decision in which optics matter for the long term success of the program and the university. Harbaugh has failed, everyone gets that. But if you don’t think that the way Rich Rod was treated by Michigan has played a part in this entire long played out drama that is the last 12 years of Michigan football, you’re delusional.
The football coaching community is small and these guys don’t take kindly to a program shitting on one of their own, and if Michigan is willing to shit on one of its own favored sons, what does that mean for someone else? Look what happens when a program alienates pipeline high school programs. You piss off coaches, recruits and players when you treat people poorly, and when you waste money arrogantly, especially in the unique and trying times we’re in today.
Thank the Lord you’re not running anything but your fucking pie hole!
December 9th, 2020 at 3:38 AM ^
Meh. Win games and you don’t get shit on. It’s not about participation trophies.
Harbaugh was treated like a God upon his return and has been more insulated from criticism from the program he leads than just about any coach in the country.
RR was shit on and treated poorly from day 1. It’s not a fair comparison. If Jim isn’t given a pampered exit, I really doubt it has any bearing on whether a coach is willing to take the job or not.
December 9th, 2020 at 7:48 AM ^
"... you’re a fucking whiney retard ..."
I've said it before here. Thad is Maizen's semi-functional relative.