August 18th, 2022 at 9:39 AM ^
$7 billion according to the Athletic
edit: article here https://theathletic.com/3518414/2022/08/18/big-ten-tv-deal-details-rights/?source=user_shared_article
August 18th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^
WHOAAA, NELLY!
August 18th, 2022 at 9:41 AM ^
Keith, is that you?
The rumors of your demise are premature.
August 18th, 2022 at 9:46 AM ^
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August 18th, 2022 at 9:59 AM ^
I'm a little MgoBias'd, but my favorite KJ quote is, "The MVP, do we know who it is?.... Well, I'm standing beside his proud daddy."
August 18th, 2022 at 10:02 AM ^
Keith had some great quotes that season. He made one during the PSU game about Brian not running that fast since his daddy was chasing him in diapers, or something to that effect.
August 18th, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^
Chasing him with a stick!
August 18th, 2022 at 11:09 AM ^
Why do people think it was worth so much? It’s because Fox, NBC, CBS all think they’re selling subscriptions to us.
Expect to pay an extra $300/ yr to have all of these. The money is coming from viewers, not out of the providers’ pockets.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:27 PM ^
You don't need subscriptions to watch the three best matchups of the week because they are on free over-the-air TV on Fox, CBS, & NBC.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:35 PM ^
And when Michigan plays Rutgers, they’ll sacrifice a few viewers to get people to subscribe and hopefully forget to cancel.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:35 PM ^
Yes, we may pay a part of it, but a good chunk of that money is coming from advertisers. You know what that will mean - more and longer commercial breaks, inset commercials during things like reviews and short timeouts, and an overall crappier viewer/attendee experience.
Especially for in person, the breaks will be long enough to get really boring and annoying, but not long enough to go to the bathroom without missing any of the action. Schools will really need to do something to make the experience better during the long media timeouts - entertainment, fan engagement, etc.
August 18th, 2022 at 1:48 PM ^
Just let the game get one hour ahead on your DVR, then start it. I do that for all games and don’t watch any commercials
August 18th, 2022 at 11:52 AM ^
nm - someone else posted the intro song below!
August 18th, 2022 at 12:03 PM ^
They just changed the headline to $8 billion
August 18th, 2022 at 9:40 AM ^
Retractable dome over the golf course so it doesn’t close anymore. Thanks!
August 18th, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^
Retractable dome over softball and baseball fields so we can play all year and compete with southern teams.
August 18th, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^
Not just southern teams, I'm worried about our new Big 10 rivals UCLA
August 18th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^
From the Times ($) article, ha.
“McManus, the CBS Sports chairman, said this week that he believed his network and Sankey’s conference had enjoyed a mutually beneficial relationship, and that he thought “a portion of their success and growth is directly tied to” the CBS broadcast window. He said he expected that the Big Ten arrangement would “pay more dividends for us than the SEC deal would have.”
“We looked at the value that the Big Ten brought us and the national scope, and this deal makes a lot of sense for us,” McManus said. “The deal that we were talking to the SEC about just didn’t make a lot of sense for us.””
August 18th, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^
SEC fans are going to be upset. Good, it's our song now.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:03 AM ^
I've been waiting damn near 30 years for that to be our song. Definitely on the Mount Rushmore of sports anthems.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
Something about that song and B1G football...
It just means more.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:54 PM ^
Oh man, do we get to take that saying also? What a day! What a country!
August 18th, 2022 at 3:19 PM ^
That song and the original Hockey Night in Canada song are my two favorites.
August 18th, 2022 at 9:47 AM ^
Get ready to pony over some money for Peacock if you want to watch some games. From The Athletic article:
The conference also announced a deal with Peacock, the direct-to-consumer streaming platform from NBCUniversal. Peacock will exclusively stream four conference football games per year in addition to four nonconference games involving Big Ten teams. ...
Peacock will stream 32 regular-season men’s basketball games (20 conference games) in 2023-24 and 47 games (32 conference games) from 2024-25 onward as well as the Big Ten tournament’s opening night doubleheader. Peacock will also stream 30 regular-season women’s basketball games (20 conference games) per year starting in 2023-24.
August 18th, 2022 at 9:51 AM ^
Peacock is free for those who have Comcast.
And it's 4.99 per month for the sports package, which isn't bad if you only get it for basketball...so 4/5 months? That's not horrible.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:34 AM ^
There are very few streaming services that are grossly overpriced. The issue for me is that there are so many of them, which adds up, and the hassle of having to jump from app to app to switch games.
I miss the days back when I could just hit the "jump" button to cycle in and out of games. Hopefully we find our way back to that at some point and consolidate all of these services into one thing.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
1. Peacock is free for those who have Comcast. If your Comcast service cost goes up (which it will to pay for this), is it really free?
2. $4.99 today. Two years from now when this deal takes effect, it will probably be more, again to pay for this contract.
In the end, we, the consumers, will pay for this. There is only so much that advertising will pay for.
I like that most of the football is on OTA networks. I hate the Peacock deal for Men's Basketball. Need to see more details on how it will look, but having that many basketball games on Peacock is going to suck.
August 18th, 2022 at 10:25 AM ^
I'll say my experience with Peacock compared to other streaming services has generally been positive, but man do I hate that everyone has to push their own stupid subscription service I have to pay for on top of cable. Peacock, Big Ten Plus, ESPN+, Paramount+, etc etc etc. Its annoying
August 18th, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^
Then stop paying for cable.
Honestly, YTTV for the months football is on + Peacock for a month if Michigan ends up there is much cheaper than cable for 12 months a year.
Even if you extend it 4 months to watch BB, it's only 7 months a year of YTTV.
August 18th, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^
"Much" cheaper?
Google Fiber $60
YTTV: $65
Peacock/Paramount/ESPN/B1G APP's: $35
total: $160
Direct TV Choice with AT&T Fiber Bundle: $180.00
August 18th, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^
That’s for the months that you subscribe to YTTV and other apps, which as previously mentioned only needs to be 7/12 months a year. Can you go month to month on directv at 180/month, or is that the monthly cost for a contract? If you’re locked in for a year, then the fair comparison is annual costs, which would be:
Directv bundle for 12/12 months: $2,160/year
Google fiber for 12/12 months, apps for 7/12 months: $1,420/year
August 18th, 2022 at 11:47 AM ^
That is month to month as I am well past year 1 but the year 1 incentives are not factored for that 1 year contract.
For the extra $20 per month after contract I get DTV on (4) tv's, DVR, 4K and a simple interface. Also includes a $9 per month protection plan on equipment and HBO Max.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:40 PM ^
That does sound like a good deal if you live in an area where AT&T Fiber is available. I do not, unfortunately, so I can't even see details of what the bundled offer is for that. The deal isn't appealing for DirecTV Choice on its own at all; it's $70/month for the first 12 months, but requires a 24 month commitment and the 2nd 12 months are $124/month, AND there's an early termination fee of $20/month remaining on the contract! Plus equipment rentals & installation which aren't a thing on the apps.
So for those who can't get a decent deal in a bundle, managing the month to month apps is a far better deal.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:55 AM ^
Yea, we thought unbundling would be better and it ended up not being so for sports fans. The one nice thing is for Big Ten sports you won't need paramount (or ESPN - until the postseason). But nevertheless it's not much cheaper and navigating a bunch of different apps to find the right live stream is actually more difficult.
I do think for shows/movies unbundling has been a good thing - pick and choose your app for the month. But if you're a sports fan, then you're basically paying for cable AND a non-live streamer too. So yea we're boned. At least Michigan will usually be on broadcast. I do think that's pretty great.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:18 PM ^
It's one way that streaming works in favor of the consumer vs cable bundle, managing your accounts by cycling on and off different services.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
Yes, I don't get why you can't just subscribe to one for a couple months, move to another for a couple months, etc. None of them have enough content to maintain them for longer.
Are you really that upset you won't be able to participate at the water-cooler because you won't see the Living Dead Live (or whatever) for a couple months past release?
I have a Roku, and it's not a big deal to select the apps like you did TV channels back in the day. I'm sure Google/Apple whatever TV works mostly the same way.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:46 PM ^
I'm talking specifically about live streams tho - like if you're browsing what's on ESPN+ vs Peacock vs YTTV, you have to click on the app and go thru the content of each app, you can't compare everything available at once.
August 18th, 2022 at 1:13 PM ^
I can live without that if it means saving hundreds or 1000s of dollars a year.
I'm not poor, but I'm not blowing my money on minor conveniences either.
August 18th, 2022 at 2:44 PM ^
EDIT: I'm going to simplify this, because the comparison isn't convenience vs thousands of dollars.
To get all the Big Ten Games, you need peacock ($8/mo or xfinity) and then either:
1) Get an antenna and subscribe to sling blue+sports extra for a total of $46/month
2) Paramount+, and sling blue+sports extra, ($52-$56/month)
3) YTTV ($65/month, but also ESPN)
4) Cable (variable, ESPN)
YTTV is more, but is easier to browse and gets you ESPN. The costs is $10-20/month more, so hundreds per year unless you turn it off in the offseason. Hope this is helpful.
August 18th, 2022 at 11:18 AM ^
You don't need YTTV to watch Big Brother -- that's broadcast over the air on CBS.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:36 PM ^
The streaming services + an internet package are pretty much the same price or worse than just getting a cable+internet bundle. I did SlingTV with cheap internet a few years ago to beat the cable companies bundle and it just doesnt cut it for streaming. If you get nice internet plus a bunch of add ons, its more expensive. Cable is the way to go for me since I fortunately have two options in my area which holds the price down
August 18th, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^
Would the football games be on Peacock+ though? A ND fan I know said that he didn't need a subscription to watch the ND-Toledo game last year that was only on Peacock, though I can't confirm.
Also, hard to see many Michigan football games being stuck on Peacock. First, I'm not sure on how the priority will play out for picking games. But even for NBC, it's probably more lucrative to have our games on the main network than stuck on the streaming platform, especially considering they'd only be getting at most a few a year (don't forget about Fox, CBS and BTN)...
August 18th, 2022 at 11:37 AM ^
I believe the ad-supported version of Peacock is free if you have Comcast/Xfinity internet or cable. If you don't have those, it's around $4.99 a month.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:44 PM ^
There are 3 tiers of Peacock.
- Peacock - free version, ads, no live events
- Peacock Premium - paid version or free with Xfinity, ads, live events
- Premium Plus - paid version for everyone, no ads, download stuff
Xfinity does, indeed, get Premium for free - for now.
https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/comcast-ending-peacock-premium-free-xfinity-1235293778/
Per this article from June 2022:
Jeff Shell, CEO of NBCUniversal, said that making Peacock available to Comcast cable and broadband customers for no extra charge helped the fledgling streamer achieve traction after it launched in mid-2020, speaking Tuesday at the Credit Suisse 24th Annual Communications Conference. However, “At some point we’ll roll that to paid,” Shell said.
A rep for NBCU’s Peacock did not have information on when the free Peacock Premium promo for cable customers would be ending.
So there is no timeframe - it may not be any time soon, or the cynic in me would say that it would happen just before Big Ten starts airing on Peacock next year.
August 18th, 2022 at 2:38 PM ^
Huh. I am pretty sure I'm paying for Peacock (kid needed it for fantasy premier league) but also have Xfinity.
This would align with the fact that I apparently have TWO subscriptions to the same national newspaper.
I need a service that goes through all your subscriptions each month and figures out what's superfluous and also helps you evaluate usage/ROI, and then does the legwork of telling which ones to f*ck off
August 18th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^
Unless we revert to the RichRod years, I doubt we will be on Peacock. That's probably reserved for the Rutgers or half the B1G West.
August 18th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
Zach Shaw tweeted something that made it sound like paramount comes with 247 subs.
https://twitter.com/_zachshaw/status/1560263762614972421?s=21&t=Lhsh329O1iJGCpo1xhPL8A
August 18th, 2022 at 6:27 PM ^
247 subs
That's crazy