Big Ten considering eliminating football divisions, among other changes as early as 2023
Iowa AD Gary Barta tells @ScottDochterman that there are serious discussions happening about both the Big Ten ending divisional play and also dropping down to eight conference games starting in 2023 (to schedule games against the Pac-12 & ACC): https://t.co/6vNiCOva1f
— Nicole Auerbach (@NicoleAuerbach) January 26, 2022
"There also are serious discussions about the Big Ten ending divisional play with schools playing three opponents annually and cycling through the other 10 teams either every other year or two years on, two years off."
January 26th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
This would be great
January 26th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
This would be great
January 26th, 2022 at 2:21 PM ^
Any system that involves us playing tOSU every year while competing against teams that do not is a terrible idea.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:39 PM ^
Right? How aren't more people talk about this. I'm all for some form of realignment, but the reality is if Michigan has msu and osu as protected games, it's likely no one has a harder protected set of games unless osu gets psu and uofm, which is close.
As laid out, knowing msu and osu are probably protected for uofm, this does not help us in the slightest.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:34 PM ^
If this new scheduling happens, it would make sense to not have "THE GAME" be the last game of the season right? As much as I love that tradition, the thought of that matchup two times in a row can't possibly be attractive to many.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:35 PM ^
The same 3 teams every year. Wisconsin will get Northwestern, Illinois, and Minnesota every year and NEVER play Michigan and Ohio State the same year.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
ah ha!!! so now they can add another tomato can to the schedule. reason #1 why i am not renewing my football tickets.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^
Think that implied the 4th non-confrence game would be against an ACC or Pac XII team. Which I would be in favor of if they did it like a challenge. Would much rather watch Clemson, Florida State, Miami, USC, or Oregon.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
How does this help OSU Football? If it doesn't, it won't happen.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:59 PM ^
Why can't we keep three conference games? Power Five teams should play only one Group of Five or FCS team a year. Stop fighting dudes in a lower weight class to get bowl eligibility and more $$$.
January 26th, 2022 at 2:59 PM ^
I support this 1,000%. The divisions in the Big Ten are a farce. Everyone should have roughly the same strength of schedule.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:07 PM ^
Sounds like a good idea to me. The West stinks
January 26th, 2022 at 3:10 PM ^
Sounds like a good idea to me. The West stinks
January 26th, 2022 at 3:28 PM ^
We should fight strongly against this and prevent it from happening. There's pretty much no way this benefits Michigan. We're guaranteed the toughest schedule and we'd probably get OSU in a title game rematch as opposed to the current situation where the title game would be pretty easy.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:38 PM ^
The real problem for Michigan is that the Big10 and most fans want to Michigan to play OSU every year.
Because of this, Michigan will typically have a more difficult schedule in the Big10 than most Big10 teams.
I think this is stupid- I can live without a Michigan/OSU game every year if it gives Michigan a better chance of making the Big10 Championship game.
'm sure I'm in the minority because most U of M fans seem to be happy with the annual dong punch from OSU - 2021 of course being a glorious exception!
January 26th, 2022 at 9:17 PM ^
username checks out.
blaze up, dummy.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:40 PM ^
Divisions are fine- they should be more balanced.
The real way to fix this is that for winning your division, only intra-division games count. This way if a team has good or bad crossover games from the West it doesn't hurt or help that team's chances of winning the East Division. This is a simple concept and I can't believe this change hasn't been made already.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:43 PM ^
1. The original idea of a 10 team conference was nearly perfect - a few non-conference games and everyone plays everyone (3+9) = 12
2. The fairest option might be all-play-all but that would require a 13th game and giving up all of the non-conference games.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:47 PM ^
Not enough games for all to play- best option is try to improve the balance of the divisions and then only count games within your division in regard to winning your division.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:50 PM ^
I'd rather play iowa or wisconsin in the championship than osu in b2b weeks.
January 26th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
I really don't like dropping to eight conference games unless they are thinking of reducing the regular season by a game because of an expanded playoff.
We'd be trading a Big Ten opponent for some shit bag MAC team or worse.
January 26th, 2022 at 4:16 PM ^
If they drop to only eight conference games, I think they need to limit protected games to 2 games. if you are protecting almost half your schedule, might as well just keep the divisions.
January 26th, 2022 at 4:41 PM ^
I came up with this list of protected games awhile ago when there was an idea of removing divisions.
January 26th, 2022 at 10:15 PM ^
I don't hate it. Throw in a tie-breaker that resists rematches, and I'm for it.
Alas, that would probably just create the same results as the current East West in terms of title game. Does help regular season variety.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:03 PM ^
That sucks
January 26th, 2022 at 5:05 PM ^
Fewer games against Rutgers/MD and more against Minny/Iowa/Wisconsin sounds like a good thing from a fan and competition perspective.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:06 PM ^
We'd still have the protected OSU game every year and be fucked in the ass playing essentially a SEC team with no rules or academic care for their athletes....while MSU plays Illinois.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:16 PM ^
Long overdue for the health of the league. Not sure it's good for Michigan, because it basically means Michigan has to beat Ohio State twice to have a season like they had this year and that kinda sucks whereas most of the league will only have to beat them once.
But it's just not tenable to continue to have a league where one division is constantly 1-2 toughest to win and the other is by far the worst in the power 5.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:29 PM ^
This is a necessary change. The conference is misaligned.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:52 PM ^
No one has mentioned the big reason to dump the divisions: two divisions makes expansion hard because you need 2 more to get to 16 and do pods or whatever. No divisions, and an odd number of teams works out a little better. And what team is in the middle of the Big Ten footprint and is going to need a conference when it's basically necessary for playoff inclusion/success?
Notre Dame
Add them to get to 15, do the kind of schedule the ACC did in 2020, and make Notre Dame-Michigan, ND-OSU, ND-PSU, even ND-Wisconsin a regular part of the rotation, and you'll get the biggest TV contract in the country. Ultimately, that's what this is all about.
January 26th, 2022 at 5:58 PM ^
BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR HUMONGOUS INCREDIBLY MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE EVER IN THE UNIVERSE RIVALRY WITH ILLINOIS???
January 26th, 2022 at 6:34 PM ^
Eliminating divisions will likely backfire for UofM. Our opponents will be OSU, MSU, and PSU or Minnesota.
Basically the biggest game for 2 of our opponents and the biggest or 2nd biggest for the 3rd. It is hard to get up for that. Meanwhile MSU will get something stupid like UofM, Indiana, and Northwestern.
We'll beat OSU in the last regular season game and then be forced to play them in the championship game, reducing the meaning of the game from a week prior.
January 26th, 2022 at 7:15 PM ^
Ditch the Championship Game while they're at it
January 26th, 2022 at 8:57 PM ^
divisions and expansion are the worst things to ever happen to the conference. can’t unwind the expansion, so let’s at least kill the other.
January 26th, 2022 at 10:22 PM ^
I put the world on hold for "The Game" ... but it is obvious that if your goal is playoffs/National Championship that it should not be the last regular game of the regular season.
Rankings favor blue-bloods that are playing each other early. They are both over-ranked to foster excitement/ratings/tv audience. Winner gets a boost, loser doesn't drop much. OSU vs. Mich earlier doesn't knock one of them out from the playoffs.
Win the rest of your games and the hold the rematch for the title. The SEC is two decades in front of the BIG on this. Have a chicken-shit Saturday late in the schedule to allow your teams to heal-up and be ready for rivalry, conference championship, and playoffs.
If the BIG wants to claim smarty-pants bonafides, etc. - perhaps they should apply this to football scheduling. The hayseeds down south are running circles around the Yankees.
January 26th, 2022 at 11:38 PM ^
Doesn’t the NCAA require divisions for conferences of 12 or more? Presumably that would be altered?
If we drop divisional format, The Game would almost certainly have to move earlier in the season (RRS style perhaps). It’s not my favorite, but we’ve already completely upended college football in the past few years, so not sure a bit more moves the needle for me.
January 26th, 2022 at 11:46 PM ^
WRT football, it isn't realistic for most of the B1G East teams to be forced to be in business with the B1G West teams going forward. The BiG East should be (for lack a working title) called the SEC North and join up, and the B1G West be called the Big XII North (or whatever).
If (when?) what is called the SEC as of today wants to expand northwards, right now, I see Michigan, tOSU, PSU, Cow, and Wisky being able to belly up to that table. Those are the facts as I see them.
January 27th, 2022 at 7:40 AM ^
There has only ever been one division.
January 27th, 2022 at 10:47 AM ^
I understand the concept but if the B1G were to do away with Divisions, I would much rather see the B1G drop back to 8 conference games with no protected games and go follow a home/away schedule and then rotate two teams.
As soon as you put Michigan into a protected rivalry with Ohio State, that is a competitive disadvantage not to mention that there could be a possibility of a rematch in the B1G Championship game.
In terms of the CFP, the number of losses are important. Who was the last SEC Champion to come out of the East? Florida maybe? Georgia has just now risen up but are people wanting to break up the SEC because the SEC West almost always wins the SEC?
January 27th, 2022 at 5:53 PM ^
UM - OSU, MSU, NW
OSU - UM, PSU, PUR
PSU - MSU, OSU, UMD
MSU - PSU, UM, IND
WIS - MIN, IOW, RUT
MIN - WIS, PUR, IOW
IOW - NEB, WIS, MIN
NEB - IOW, UMD, ILL
NW - ILL, IND, UM
ILL - NW, RUT, NEB
IND - PUR, NW, MSU
PUR - IND, MIN, OSU
UMD - RUT, NEB, PSU
RUT - UMD, ILL, WIS