October 17th, 2019 at 10:18 AM ^
Isn't Cam Chambers at MSU law school right now? There is a transfer portal option for that situation?
October 17th, 2019 at 10:53 AM ^
Yeah, he's been juggling his first semester of law school, football, and I think an internship. He got some PT last year due to other WR injuries and actually did well until he got hurt himself. He's been buried in the depth chart this season though.
I think this leaves only 8 of the 20 recruits from the 2016 class who will complete their eligibility at MSU. Justin Layne went to the NFL early, but even counting him, less than half of that class panned out.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:05 AM ^
What is your take on the situation in East Lansing right now? Do you think Dantonio will find a way to weather this and steady the ship or is he playing out the string? I saw they got a nice RB commitment this week but the QB situation looks pretty dire.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:16 AM ^
The offense right now is suffering the effects of awful OL recruiting. This is the second year in a row where we're only losing one OL starter to graduation (Tyler Higby, who I think started the season as a backup guard before injuries forced him to start at LT. Cole Chewins would be another starter but has been dealing with back problems all season and isn't expected to play). We've had to put guys out there before they're ready, and as a result the O-line has been bad for a couple years now. We should start to see some improvement next year, but as you mentioned the QB spot is uncertain. WR and RB groups will be fine so if we can get good QB play, the offense could be pretty solid. That's a big question mark though.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:49 AM ^
Poor OL recruiting killing a season? Hmmm...where have we seen that before?
October 17th, 2019 at 1:22 PM ^
*Killed a 5-year span of seasons.
October 17th, 2019 at 1:19 PM ^
He beats Michigan this year and he buys himself another 2 seasons...
October 17th, 2019 at 11:27 AM ^
Only 5 of Michigan's top 15 recruits from 2016 are still on the team as well. Hurts when you can't get a significant portion of your class to their senior year.
October 17th, 2019 at 3:01 PM ^
Who is upvoting this shit?
Ben Bredeson, Michael Onwenu, Lavert Hill, Carlo Kemp, Nick Eubanks are those five remaining of the "Top 15" (why the hell we're only looking at the Top 15 of a 27 member class is another question).
Of the 10 not here, 3 are in the NFL: Gary, Bush, Long. 1 is kinda-hopefully still here in Chris Evans. Not a recruiting miss among them.
Of the 6 remaining of your mythical Top-15, Peters, Ron Johnson and McDoom are all playing time casualties that we're not missing (in Peters' case, he was basically replaced). Asiasi and Kekoa Crawford were transfers I wish had stayed. Kareem Walker was a flame out.
Is that a problem? No, but maybe you could make a case... until you look at the rest of this class that is conveniently excluded under this "Top 15" bullshit restriction:
Khaleke Hudson, Josh Uche, Michael Dwumfour, Josh Metellus, Sean McKeon, Devin Gil, Quinn Nordin, Stephen Spanellis and Brad Hawkins were all a part the non-top-15 remainder of that class.
So from a 27 man class, four years later Michigan has 10 starters, 11 if you count both McKeon and Eubanks which could be considered reasonable. That doesn't count the 3 guys already in the league, 3 other contributors and hopefully the return of Chris Evans.
18 hits out of 27 recruits. And you tried to paint it as 5.
What the hell are you talking about and who in their right mind liked your dumb post?
October 17th, 2019 at 5:04 PM ^
This right here is a quality post. If I could upvote you a hundred times I would... both for your comprehensive breakdown, and calling out the misinformation.
October 17th, 2019 at 12:26 PM ^
As someone who went to law school, that sounds very very difficult and unadvisable. Very few things are as important as starting off on the right foot your first semester and the usual advice is don't even plan to have a part-time job and plan to lose your significant other. Serious stuff. I'd advise someone to do a different type of grad school for your grad-year football eligibility and wait on law school---honestly waiting on law school is something 50%+ of law students should have done.
But the question still stands: how the heck is he planning to transfer and have eligibility? Did he graduate undergrad in 3 and still has 2 of eligibility? Is he planning to drop out and do something else? Honestly it's very hard to transfer law schools except the window between years 1 and 2, and that's if you kill it during 1L. Good luck to him regardless.
October 17th, 2019 at 1:39 PM ^
He isn't in the JD program, he is in a master's program that is much more flexible and less burdensome.
October 17th, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^
+1 informative. Kevin Holt is right about the time demands of law school. I don't think there are enough hours in the day to devote to both activities.
October 17th, 2019 at 1:51 PM ^
As someone who went to law school, I just want you to know I went to law school.
October 17th, 2019 at 3:53 PM ^
love it, I have 2 College degrees NOT in Law, take that.
October 17th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
Plan to lose your significant other ??? Damn if the relationship can’t withstand a busy schedule and some stress is better off done with.
October 17th, 2019 at 8:07 PM ^
He graduated in 3 years, so I think he can do a grad transfer and have immediate eligibility. He's certainly no stranger to heavy course loads after graduating a year early, but he did have to miss some time during fall camp due to law school responsibilities. I'm not sure how all the law school stuff works though. Maybe he can finish up the spring semester at MSU and then transfer over the summer.
He's studying corporate law and has said one day he hopes to help create incentives for larger companies to move facilities to lower income communities in order to create jobs and generate tax revenue which would help those communities. He seems like a really good kid and I hope he does well wherever he ends up.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:18 AM ^
I mean, pretty much every team will have 5 to 10, right?
October 17th, 2019 at 10:27 AM ^
You have to think so. If players are leaving teams like Clemson and Alabama, they surely aren't going to stick around mediocre teams to ride the bench. Michigan needs to be actively seeking transfers in to offset depth losses.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:24 AM ^
Abandon ship!!
October 17th, 2019 at 11:11 AM ^
Pride comes before the sinking.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:30 AM ^
Um, yeah. There are several every year. So you shouldn't be surprised.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:36 AM ^
Two more will hit the portal. One OL and one CB.
October 17th, 2019 at 12:04 PM ^
UM OL and CB? Or MSU OL and CB?
October 17th, 2019 at 1:36 PM ^
Yep, referring to Michigan.
October 17th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^
My guess is JKP or Woods @ CB.
Honigford @ OL.
October 17th, 2019 at 12:11 PM ^
Fajita? And what happened to Kelly-Powell? Is he injured or passed over? I don’t remember him playing this season.
October 17th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
Steak, chicken or combo?
October 17th, 2019 at 10:31 AM ^
What did we do before the portal????
October 17th, 2019 at 10:37 AM ^
touch ourselves
October 17th, 2019 at 10:41 AM ^
wait, were we supposed to stop?
October 17th, 2019 at 10:57 AM ^
Let's not get crazy, now.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:32 AM ^
It seems pretty number the guys that are leaving there it just feels weird to all of us I believe because it's such an open and transparent thing during the season. UM will likely have 3-7 as will other teams.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:32 AM ^
Cam has spoken to a supervisor and is sick of being asked dumbass questions
October 17th, 2019 at 10:37 AM ^
That's B.S.
-Mork
October 17th, 2019 at 11:06 AM ^
That's a dumbass question.
-M Dantonovski
October 17th, 2019 at 10:46 AM ^
I got Negged for this already and I’ll get negged again. People around the program have been informed that this will be Dantonio’s last year.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^
i don’t believe you.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:52 AM ^
I don't know if it's true or not, but I have seen this tossed about a number of times on the twitterz, RCMB, and TOC with people saying "they wouldn't be surprised" or expecting it to happen.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:52 AM ^
If he's going to win 3-7 games a year, I hope he stays. Worst case would be them higher a great recruiter. We don't need to lose any more of our recruiting base.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^
I've been wondering about the whole Blackwell situation. He was their recruiting hire and had a lot of connections throughout the state. I don't know if he is doing it but he (Blackwell) could easily call up his high school connections and urge them not to send guys to MSU.
If something like that happens MSU could be forced to move on from Dantonio to keep things from really nosediving.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^
I don't know if he is doing it but he (Blackwell) could easily call up his high school connections and urge them not to send guys to MSU.
Every report that I've seen, and there were a bunch for a while, suggested that Blackwell went salted earth on MSU with his HUGE network of HS coaching buddies. There were even suggestions, either from Blackwell or proxies, that his treatment at MSU had racial aspects. More than one coach was quoted in the press saying that they'd never send a kid to MSU.
I initially thought it was all internet BS, but then MSU's recruiting tanked and basically stayed tanked.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:52 AM ^
That's quite a limb you're out there on.
October 17th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
John U Bacon said something along those lines on NPR the other day.
Whoever gets that job next will be left with a horrible roster. Good luck with that.
October 17th, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
Bingo. Without Bachie, Willekes, Williams, M Panaciuk, Thompson, Dowell and Butler, the D will take a serious step back. Stewart and even Lewerke’s exit will hinder the O - and it is awful already.
Every team graduates talent, but MSU’s roster has minimal talent or depth.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:01 AM ^
If so, I wonder if MSU will grovel to Pat Narduzzi, begging him to come back to be the head coach. I'd actually not like that. It's pretty clear Narduzzi was a great influence for those MSU defenses he led.
October 17th, 2019 at 11:04 AM ^
I believe Fickell is the presumed favorite.