3/4 of doctors wouldn't play pro sports outside of a bubble
https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/08/24/doctor-covid-survey-daily-cover
The NBA and NHL draw praise due to the bubbles, but MLB and NFL plans are ... problematic. The biggest issue is not the risk of the death, but the long-term effects that the doctors are seeing:
"All we are seeing is that this is not like the flu. There’s vascular inflammation that occurs. This virus actually damages the vessels in our body. We’re seeing things we don’t usually see. We can only speculate.”
“Just from patients I have taken care of, a month out, there is no way they would have been able to go back to an NFL career. They were short of breath going up a flight of stairs, and they did get better. [These are] generally fit people who had quote-unquote ‘mild‘ COVID, didn’t go to the hospital, and didn’t need oxygen, and a month later they’re still short of breath.”
Specific to football:
Oh says that according to the CDC’s framework, even though NFL players are fit, many linemen are technically obese, which is a risk factor for complications from the virus. “Particularly linemen, who are in each other's space constantly,” he says. “The biggest players are at the biggest risk.”
"If I was Tom Brady, I would never be playing this season.”
August 24th, 2020 at 7:07 PM ^
I have a feeling we’ll be seeing quite a few MLB/NFL careers ending prematurely over this in the next few years.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:08 PM ^
If I was Tom Brady I'd spend my days eating ass
August 24th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^
Logged in just to upvote this. Wish I could x 100.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:36 AM ^
You'd have to get Gisele's consent for all 100 endeavors, but if you do then you go live your best life my friend
August 24th, 2020 at 11:04 PM ^
I would hope he at least spends his nights doing that.
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He seems to have a good handle on the situation.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:10 PM ^
What does the 4th say?
August 24th, 2020 at 7:12 PM ^
Nothing he died of covid
August 24th, 2020 at 9:44 PM ^
*with* Covid.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:15 PM ^
I agree and I would not be playing but the OP's title is a bit misleading here as 62% and 59% are definitely not 3/4.
"But majorities said they probably or definitely would not play in the NFL (62%) or Major League Baseball (59%) under current protocols."
August 24th, 2020 at 7:37 PM ^
83% of people misuse statistics, including 34% who just make them up...
August 24th, 2020 at 7:28 PM ^
The logic and rationale behind these arguments is sound. It is reasonable to argue that the biggest players are at the biggest risk. IMO, singling out Tom Brady because he has a lot of money as someone who shouldn’t take the risk is getting a bit out of the lane of a professional opinion. He is in outstanding physical shape and in his early 40s. Let him take the information and make his own decision. Someone should explain to Dr. Kamran Atabai, that his comment would be the equivalent of Tom Brady saying, “If I were Kamran Atabai, having made all the money that he has made in medicine, I would never work in the ICU this fall.” Tom has no business opining on that. I argue that Dr. Atabai does not either.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:30 PM ^
Little math for the OP. ¾ = 75%.
For MLB this survey (not a poll trying to get a representative sample) says 17.8% would definitely not play with another 41.1% would probably not play (total of 58.9%).
For the NFL the numbers are 28.1% definitely and 34.2% probably (62.3%)
You headline is a little off.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:49 PM ^
How about going with "6 out of 10 doctors in survey would likely not play sports outside of a bubble". That seems much more accurate.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:31 PM ^
How many doctors can play pro sports anywhere?
August 24th, 2020 at 7:32 PM ^
Dr Chris Hutchinson
August 24th, 2020 at 7:52 PM ^
Dr. Stefan “coming ur way ain’t nutten u can do ‘bout it” Humphries.
August 24th, 2020 at 7:54 PM ^
Dr. J
August 24th, 2020 at 8:07 PM ^
Does the CTE guy from BU who was a WWE wrestler count?...Nowinski?
August 24th, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
Dude you beat me to it.
In other news, 75% of doctors wouldn't play sports if it caused them to sweat profusely.
August 25th, 2020 at 7:25 AM ^
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, the Kansas City Chiefs starting RG who was the first player to opt out of this season, would like to have a word with you.
There are actually a surprising number of doctors who were collegiate or Division I athletes. Brian Hainline, the chief medical officer for the NCAA, was the number one singles tennis player at Notre Dame.
https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/do-student-athletes-make-good-doctors
August 24th, 2020 at 8:05 PM ^
And? I’ve been going to work all along, maybe this isn’t the most popular opinion but I don’t feel bad for millionaires who have the option to opt out. If I don’t go to work the bank takes my house and I don’t have the means to put food on the table, every single professional athlete would avoid this situation. The people who are going to be hit the hardest are the vendors, parking lot attendants, and stadium staff all who are out of jobs and can’t afford it.
August 24th, 2020 at 8:14 PM ^
3/4 of doctors couldn't play sports outside (or inside) of a bubble, so who cares what they think.
August 24th, 2020 at 8:28 PM ^
Those boys that grew up in a bubble will definitely have an advantage.
August 24th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^
I would bet a significant percentage of those doctors would also say the same thing about playing football in general even absent a pandemic. Not saying they’re right or wrong but many doctors tend to be extremely risk-averse when it comes to health in general.
At this point, people are well aware of the risks involved. They can do their own calculus as to whether or not it’s acceptable to them.
August 24th, 2020 at 9:58 PM ^
Did the 5th Doctor from Trident chewing gum retire or pass away? He said there were 4 Doctors...
August 25th, 2020 at 6:06 AM ^
The Fifth Doctor was replaced some time ago.
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August 25th, 2020 at 8:51 AM ^
I don't know how many docs y'all know...I know a barrel full of them. They wear personal and political hats just like the rest of us. If they were forced or able to honor only their medical hats the percentage here would be VERY high.
August 25th, 2020 at 9:50 AM ^
These comments specifically called out in the OP are very troubling. I wouldn’t say I’m in favor of living in fear of almost anything, but this virus seems pretty damn sneaky awful.
August 25th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
"There is no way they would have been able to go back to an NFL career."
What about the long list of NBA players who had covid, recovered, and are now back up and playing?
August 25th, 2020 at 11:22 AM ^
Stupid argument. "What about the people who didn't have their seatbelt on and left the accident completely healthy?"
You know there was a pro basketball player in Europe (played at Florida St a few years ago) who recovered from COVID, and a month later collapsed and died during practice from a heart attack. Who knows if that's certainly COVID-related, but he was a healthy 27 year old who previously had no heart issues. These are the things we need to be trying to protect against.
August 25th, 2020 at 10:29 AM ^
But what are the experts saying?
Like MyPillowGuy and Frederick Douglass.
August 25th, 2020 at 12:31 PM ^
Doctors? Sure, but what about my friend Becky from Facebook? We can't just go silencing Becky's voice because experts in something are saying something else. Equal time!
August 25th, 2020 at 12:52 PM ^
pffft doctors? what do they know?
oh wait...