The 0-17 On the Road vs. Ranked Opponents Isn't Really True

Submitted by ScooterTooter on

Everyone has probably heard that Michigan is 0-17 on the road vs. ranked opponents since beating #2 Notre Dame on the road in 2006. This actually isn't true. 

Michigan actually beat Illinois in 2007 on the road. That Illini team finished ranked 18th and 20th in the polls and was ranked 13th in the final BCS rankings prior to losing in the Rose Bowl to USC. They also beat Ohio State in Columbus. 

Just wanted to point that out, though it probably won't give many comfort. I understand that the people throwing that statistic out are probably using a ranked at the time metric, but I feel this is a more accurate assessment. 

mgobleu

September 4th, 2018 at 8:31 PM ^

No shortage of people round here to tell us that what we're being fed might look like shit smell like shit and taste like shit but it really isn't shit. 

mGrowOld

September 4th, 2018 at 9:16 PM ^

They are the absolute best.  You see if we had stopped Winbush on third down, caught the interception, called a different play on 2nd and goal, not run a play action out of an empty set, not had a stupid roughing the passer penalty, saw the cavernous daylight and run to it instead directly into a lineman's ass and dropped the field goal snap we would've won by 20 points or more.

I mean now that I think about we actually kicked their ass pretty good.   And now that I look back we really did smoke South Carolina, OSU and Wisconsin too if not for 10 plays or so each game.

We're practically undefeated.

 

Gentleman Squirrels

September 4th, 2018 at 8:35 PM ^

It's not inaccurate because Illinois wasn't ranked at the time we played them. It's moreso a stupid stat because it's completely arbitrary. That stat is going all the way back to Carr teams. Michigan has gone through multiple changes since then - personnel, schematic, administrative - and a team playing in 2007 is completely different from a team playing in 2018

MonkeyMan

September 5th, 2018 at 8:47 AM ^

this reminds me of a John Cleese comedy skit about how to truly irritate the hell out of people- the key is to do it while attempting to help them. People can't bring themselves to yell at an irritating person who seems to be trying to be helpful.

This thread is the equivalent of a housewife saying to her husband "there were actually two years since we were married when you weren't a loser"

Bodogblog

September 4th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^

You're forgetting that a #2 ranked Michigan team boldly walked into Kinnick Stadium and defeated itself on the road at Iowa just two years ago. 

 

the jokes help hold back the tears 

jabberwock

September 4th, 2018 at 8:42 PM ^

This is the same thing as claiming that Michigan didn't beat a single team with a winning record last year . . . until Pur-fucking-due won their crappy bowl game.

shit still smells like shit

 

jabberwock

September 4th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^

bright side?

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OMG you've just answered the question of why Mr. Brightside is so popular in Michigan stadium?

It's the perfect fan heartbreak song of longing & frustration.  OSU (& the rest of the B1G) has been "taking off her dress now" for the better part of 15 years.

That song was released in the fall of 2003.

MGoBlue@DC

September 4th, 2018 at 8:45 PM ^

First time poster--I've often wondered about the accuracy of this statistic.  Apologies if this has been clarified in previous discussions.  Off the top of my head, Michigan on the road in bowl games beat Florida in 2008, Virginia Tech in 2012, and Florida in 2016.  All three of those teams were ranked at the time Michigan played and beat them.  In non-bowl games, Michigan beat a ranked Florida team in Dallas in 2017.  Why are these wins not included in this narrative of "wins against on the road ranked opponents?"

MH20

September 4th, 2018 at 9:28 PM ^

They were not. They were ranked #20 the week before but lost to Northwestern which knocked them out of the polls.

They were also a total paper tiger that beat up on a pathetic non-conference slate and a bunch of easy Big Ten games to run their record to 7-1 before going 0-5 to finish the season.

CompleteLunacy

September 4th, 2018 at 8:55 PM ^

I don't know why everyone is suddenly latching onto this "0-17" crap anyway.  I mean, yes, it needs to change...but honestly it feels like Harbaugh is being blamed for all 17 losses.

I mean, why now? Why not when it was 0-15? Or 0-10? Do we like putting ourselves down every chance we get? Do we need to constantly remind ourselves that, yes, things have sucked big time since Carr retired? 

I feel like people went into a coma from 2008-2014 and then woke up and are taking out every failure of the program in the last decade out on Harbaugh.  

 

CompleteLunacy

September 5th, 2018 at 4:22 PM ^

Quite frankly, it's ridiculous that anyone could sell them as a National title contender this year. At best they're a dark horse to compete for the Big Ten title. 

Just because expectations are out of whack doesn't mean we should hold the coach accountable to them...because then we'll never get what we want.

CompleteLunacy

September 5th, 2018 at 4:20 PM ^

But I think it has, though. We just aren't seeing it in top 25 results yet. Hoke's teams didn't just lose to ranked opponents on the road...they got run off the field.  They'd also lose to unranked road opponents all the time, like Iowa and Rutgers(?!?!). They almost lost to a bad Connecticut team on the road once. Hoke's teams were awful on the road. 

Further evidence: including the ND loss, Harbaugh's teams are 9-6 on the road since he was hired. It's not great. But when you see that Hoke was 7-12 on the road...yeah, maybe the team IS actually better.